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TM2-Megatron wrote: Yeah, of course the audience reaction is positive once they're inside the theatre... how could it be otherwise? Anyone with good taste and an open mind can't help but enjoy MtR. However, the marketing campaign doesn't have much to do with people's reactions after having seeing it, but getting people into the theatre to begin with. And in that respect, MtR's marketing has been inadequate and misrepresentative.
Are you kidding?! It doesn't have anything to do with "good taste" and an open mind. I went into the film with a very open mind, hoping that I would truly enjoy the film. Why would I NOT want to enjoy a film that I've just spent $10.00 to see? Seriously! Having "good taste" has nothing to do with enjoying the film. I didn't enjoy the entire film, but, that doesn't mean I have "bad taste".
TM2-Megatron wrote: This is what I don't get. Pretty much all the criticism I've seen of this film has to do with the middle sections... and mostly due to the fact the film moves so quickly and the family is so crazy. What I have to wonder when I read that is are the minds of these people working at 10mph, or what? Is it really that difficult to keep up with... or is it just laziness, and not wanting to deal with it? What's so "wrong" about a movie using more than one type of atmosphere when telling the story... and that includes a zany, manic style if necessary. The Robinsons are supposed to be a crazy family... what tone did you expect the movie to take on while focusing on them?
There's no need to be insulting. I'm not insulting you, so why are you insulting anyone who doesn't agree with your views? That's just pathetic. Perhaps there is a reason that most of the criticism you've seen regarding the middle act of the film is negative. I would say those criticisms are very valid. It just doesn't work. Not for someone who doesn't have A.D.D., anyway. It has nothing to do with not being able to think quickly, being lazy, or not wanting to deal with it. It has to do with the fact that all of the sudden we are jolted around to scene after scene that is not cohesive, and it is very disjointed. Yes, the family is weird, I get that. That doesn't mean that the film has to be presented as if everyone watching has A.D.D.
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Didn't mean to be insulting; and I'm sorry if I was. However I can't change what I think. Part of having an open mind, at least in the way I meant it, was being willing to accept a movie altering its tone in the middle. Some (most, maybe) movies are meant to have a costant pace all throughout, however I don't see any reason why every single movie must follow rule this in order to be considered "good". Having ADD certainly isn't necessary in order to enjoy the movie, as the majority of people seem to have positive impressions of the film.

However, I can't change my opinion. Personally, I felt the manic atmosphere during most of the future scenes was appropriate, given the nature of the family. If the pace of the middle had been the same as the opening and ending, then the family wouldn't have come across as nearly as crazy as they actually were. I certainly agree that the pace increased at least ten-fold for the middle, and while that might be fast, I saw no problem with it personally. I wouldn't like it in every movie, obviously, but I felt it was appropriate for that segment of this particular story.
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I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE THIIS MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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Not review related, but an interesting fact. In voice casting this movie, they interviewed over 500 people just for the voice of Wilbur Robinson. Thought you might find that impressive, as I certainly did.
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I finally saw this - in 3D! - and I loved it. I thought that the 3-D especially really added a lot to the viewing experience, it gave the animation so much cool depth - like it looks like you're standing in the Robinsons yard at some points, plus it seems to just go with the whole futuristic thing.

And I, as an adult, loved the message of it and the story. The ending was really touching to me, how everything looped back together, about always keeping moving forward and going after your dreams.

I think the important part of the MTR box office is that it's still doing solid business this far after its release. I don't know that it'll ever reach stupendous Lion King like numbers, but I don't think that it's performance is anything that Disney should be ashamed of. I feel like MTR is definitely a step in the right direction for its animation dept, too. I think a lot of the casual moviegoer audience DOES assume that it's something that's "Just for Kids", but I felt like it had a lot that was appropriate and worthwhile for audiences both kids and grownups.
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Saw it today and really enjoyed it. At first I didn't want to, but after reading a few good reviews, I changed my mind. I thought it was terrific.
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yeay! this week fifth spot but earned per screen average more than blades of glory! GO ROBINSONS!

might catch it again tomw, .... like its going to help the north american intake. :lol:
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Yeah, it looks like this film will continue to have legs. If you look at the day-to-day breakdowns, Meet the Robinsons is slowly rising up over the new releases. On Friday it ranked 7th place, but then shot up to 4th place on Saturday, and on Sunday made it to 3rd, finally beating out Blades of Glory. Hopefully it will stay that way or higher Monday through Thursday. We should be seeing this break the 100 million mark by the time Spider-Man 3 comes and sweeps the box office. I'm just a little disappointed that it won't break Chicken Little's 135 million gross unless a miracle happens (I'm expecting Meet the Robinsons to leave theaters with about 115 million, which isn't anything to snuff at, anyway).
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I'm really pleased that the movie keeps on keeping on, basically and continues to do solid box office numbers. I think that it can definitely keep on doing that for the next couple of weeks, well into so-called blockbuster season. I'm proud of how well its done, and I think it's all basically word of mouth, you know?
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Disneykid wrote:Yeah, it looks like this film will continue to have legs. If you look at the day-to-day breakdowns, Meet the Robinsons is slowly rising up over the new releases.
yes, i am surprised to see that I will still be able to see this movie in theaters, around here in LA/Burbank. How long has this movie been in release? It seems like it has been out a long time so that bodes well if it is still playing in theaters after this long. I am just relieved to be able to still catch it in 3-D. I'll likely go tomorrow.
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I'm really eager for this one on DVD, despite the fact it isn't possible to carry over this 3-D effect to that format (unless DVD video can pull off 144fps, and even then I can't see any consumer television pulling the necessary refresh rate off). That's saying a lot for the movie, given this is the first non-Pixar Disney movie I've really been excited to purchase since Fantasia 2000. I did pick up Atlantis and The Emperor's New Groove because they were released as such impressive 2-disc editions, but neither movie was more than average.

Though I doubt it will happen, I really hope Disney does MtR justice on DVD, and gives it a proper 2-disc Special Edition.
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TM2-Megatron wrote:I'm really eager for this one on DVD, despite the fact it isn't possible to carry over this 3-D effect to that format (unless DVD video can pull off 144fps, and even then I can't see any consumer television pulling the necessary refresh rate off).
We were at a Disney Consumer Electronic Show CES 2007, at the Disney Studio lot (Burbank), displaying several technologies for big modern LCDs screens showing 3-D technology - at least 3 companies were there - they said the TVs would be coming out soon and the price was not going to be that much higher for the 3-D ready TVs. Some system you bought a box and glasses; another one converts all your 2-D movies to 3-D etc. I wished I had saved the catalog from the show so I could tell you more, but at least one of the companies told me you should be starting to see their technology offered later this year, built into the existing LCDs.
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Pluto Region1 wrote:We were at a Disney Consumer Electronic Show CES 2007, at the Disney Studio lot (Burbank), displaying several technologies for big modern LCDs screens showing 3-D technology - at least 3 companies were there - they said the TVs would be coming out soon and the price was not going to be that much higher for the 3-D ready TVs. Some system you bought a box and glasses; another one converts all your 2-D movies to 3-D etc. I wished I had saved the catalog from the show so I could tell you more, but at least one of the companies told me you should be starting to see their technology offered later this year, built into the existing LCDs.
I have heard a little bit about these 3-D monitors... hopefully, they're able to create an effect just as impressive as the Real D system, though the technical aspects of both are obviously quite different.

As far as the price goes, though, I have to wonder which conventional LCD TVs were they using as a comparison when they said the new monitors wouldn't be "that much higher". Although you can buy a large enough (meaning 38"-40", or 42" at the most; anything more seens a bit excessive) semi-HD-capable LCD TV these days for a reasonable price, you can still easily pay upwards of $10,000 for a TV, as well, if you're looking for quality and a good picture.
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I got back a couple hours ago from this and started reading at the beginning of this thread before posting. I must admit I only got a couple pages into the thread (as it takes so long to read so many well thought-out reviews and opinions - you guys are the best Disney critics - forget about the the movie critics reviews). Anyway, I find myself in almost 95% agreement with gardener in terms of his reaction to the film so I'll compare and contrast my reaction to gardener's:
gardener14 wrote:I just returned from seeing Meet the Robinsons, and I was not as impressed as I had hoped. I loved Chicken Little, but MTR was a letdown for me. CL felt like a warm, affectionate, and funny movie in two acts. MTR felt like a three act movie with the first and last acts having all the warm and affectionate story elements I enjoyed while the middle act, which contained much of the humor, was a chaotic jumble of confusion that left me wanting to tune out.... Also, the Bowler Hat Guy was frustrating in the beginning because I did not understand his motivation. It was explained later, but for too long he seemed purposeless...... I also don't understand why many people disliked Chicken Little. I found CL to have heart, a consistent pace, likeable and funny characters, and great music..... I think it's a movie that I might enjoy better the second time around unlike CL which I wanted to see again because I loved it the first time.
I saw this in 3D and part of the problem, being a 3D camera enthusiast, was being preoccupied with the 3D aspect and finding myself missing parts of the plot. To digress for a moment, I shoot 3D pics with a 1960s vintage camera, mount my own 3D images and even project them on a screen for audiences (I have a box of about 30 3-D glasses, like the ones they give out for this movie and have given presentations at historic societies in 3D), so I know the "rules" of 3D. Of course the 3D Disney technology is far advanced and totally different process than what I learned as a DIY hobbyist, but they are still supposed to follow the rules of 3D in order to have a consistent presentation. Partly too, it can depend on where you are seated as to how the presentation looked. Since I was the only person in the theater, I had my pick of seats and I sat high up, eye level, with the screen. Also, I would assume that since the technology is being shown for a full theater, the presentation/technology would work in about 90% of the theater seats. What I would find was that in many instances, Disney was not consistent with following the rules, with characters, rain, etc breaking out of the window/box, as we call it.

Think of the screen as a picture window. So if the screen is a picture window, and you stick your hand out the window, that is within the rules of physics. You can lean out a window with the upper half of your body coming through, but your legs remaining behind, correct? But what you can't have is an object partly coming through the window, with half the object remaining behind the window, like if it was cut in half - either the whole thing comes out or it stays behind the window. Anyway, their 3-D process respects the rules, I'd say, about 75% of the time.

As for the plot, because I got so preoccupied with the 3-D aspects, I thought I had missed what bowler hat's purpose was, but I see gardener has indicated it was not clear at the beginning anyway. I too, really enjoyed CL and don't see why so many here in the forum found the film so flawed. But that is personal opinion, I guess. I also found the middle of the film, where he gets to the future and all the Robinson family members are being presented - very confusing and it did seem like just a series of gags to possibly cover up a plot weakness (?)... but later, as the film progresses, you find out, "oh, this is the kid's family" and you start to see their purpose.

So looking back retrospectively at this, could the introduction to his future family been handled any differently or was the randomness aspect and the chaotic nature really key to quickly communicating what the family was really about (that they were quirky - like the kid himself - and delivering "the celebration of individualism" message that the film is trying to convey) after all the movie has a 1.5-hour time frame and maybe they felt they couldn't spare more time on developing this section of the film, or they just felt it wasn't necessary since it gets explained later. But of the negative reviews, almost all are honing in on that part of the film as what they see as chaotic and "a mess." With CL, I didn't really see any section of the film that was out of step or broke/departed drastically from any other section, as you do with the middle of this film.

As Luke said in his review, the end of the film really tied everything together and the way the film does this really "saves" the film from how it degenerated to chaos in the middle. So I will say, I do not like this nearly as much as I did CL. But I do like MTR and I agree with gardener and others who've said this is something I'd like to see again, because I think the middle section would be more tolerable (now that I know what's going to happen). It would give me a chance to examine the various family characters, which go by in a blur. I plan to purchase the DVD. I LOVED the Rat Pack Frogs - I think these were my favorite secondary characters in the film.

Topping off a great presentation was the 3-D chip and dale gem that they dug out of the vaults - just perfect! And I did enjoy the quote at the end of the film from Walt - basically indicating the film's theme having come from Walt.

For critics to say this is a "kids-only" film is ridiculous. I am doubtful that many young kids would even be able to process most of the plot of this film - the time travel, the whole role-reversal between the kid turning out to really be his son, them showing that the kid's mom was really his wife, etc. Later, you find out that the old guy who lost his teeth adopted him. etc. This plot really strikes me as geared towards a young teen to adult audience.

I was the ONLY person in the entire theater, which is not great, but it was a Thursday and at 11:20am. Hopefully the film is getting bigger #s in the afternoons or on weekends.
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TM2-Megatron wrote: As far as the price goes, though, I have to wonder which conventional LCD TVs were they using as a comparison when they said the new monitors wouldn't be "that much higher". Although you can buy a large enough (meaning 38"-40", or 42" at the most; anything more seens a bit excessive) semi-HD-capable LCD TV these days for a reasonable price, you can still easily pay upwards of $10,000 for a TV, as well, if you're looking for quality and a good picture.
I remember a little more.... 2 different systems we saw, I think one was like a converter box ( a couple hundred dollars) and you had to buy that with some glasses and the glasses were going to be $100/a piece, so not something for a person with a tight budget who might want to buy 4 or more glasses for friends and family. But the guy who was saying you could buy the LCD monitor and just watch that, those monitors were supposed to be priced at less than $2,000 range for a large, say 32" to 42" monitor.
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this movie has officially ended its screening in malaysia. :cry: cant wait for the dvd.

i agree this movie is not just for kids. one man sat behind me with his kids, and when the movie ends, he said VERY NICE. i think he also sobbed during the scene with lewis and mom. there were lots of sobbing behind me from the girl groups and the parents.
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akhenaten wrote:this movie has officially ended its screening in malaysia. :cry: cant wait for the dvd.
Haha you're lucky :P The film ended screenings in Malta in just 12 days, as I already said. However, it may surface up again in a theatre in my town. It's called "Tal-Lira Cinemas", which means you pay just one Maltese Lira to view a film. The catch is that the films are not new releases, and may be from a couple of months, to even over a year old. For example, the theatre is currently showing Night at the Museum, and a couple of weeks ago it was screening Chicken Little. :o Now, a week ago, I thought I saw a poster for Meet the Robinsons outside the complex, reading "Coming Soon". My fingers are crossed.
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I saw the movie WAY back during my spring break and I can honestly say that I loved it.

I wasn't expecting much out of it, but I had some hope, especially after reading the good reviews and word of mouth. When I saw it I was very impressed with it.

I am surprised that no one has said that MTR is classic Disney storytelling. We have a misfit, outcast character that desires love and acceptance in life and goes his way to achieve it, a villain gets in the way, and the character learns that he finally got what he wished the most in life.

True, Chicken Little was this way, but it was so lost in its attempt to outdo Dreamworks that this aspect of the movie was drowned out. That and Chicken Little himself is annoying as all hell.

MTR really touched upon this aspect, which made it even more enjoyable.

I agree that the middle part of the movie is the weakest part. It was so fast paced that for a minute we forgot about the main plot. I wished that they had presented the whole family at a slower pace. But despite this, the whole movie was great.

One thing I have to say is that NO ONE should go into the movie expecting a grand return of Disney epics. No. This isn't MTR's main goal. Its goal is to tell a solid and fun story.

So no, MTR is not the end all of animated movies. However, it is very comforting to see Disney trying to tell a story again rather than just following everyone else.
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I finally saw this yesterday. I totally loved it. So many great scenes. And the structure of the story definitely reminded me of the early nineties Disney flicks. A wonderful little reminder why that formula was so incredibly good to begin with. It's also the first non-Pixar CGI film that dares to tell a story without insulting its audience.

The animation was incredible. The bouncy movement and faithful character animation show Disney is every bit as capable of CG animation as Pixar. It's amazing considering this is only their second CGI film, because I found it to be visually dazzling beyond any Dreamworks film I can think of. Disney has redeemed itsself.

Best Disney film since The Emperor's New Groove.

I'd give it a 9.... it lost one point because of the forgettable songs. I know Disney can give us more memorable music than this.
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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

So far over the weekend, it grossed an estimated $4,842,000, bringing it to $88,356,000.

Still pretty strong, but a shame it didn't gross $100 million as it's going to be tricky to achieve now as every film is going to enter their own funeral with Spider-Man coming this week.
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