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I don't disaggree that The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the Ring was the weakest of the trilogy. In fact, the first one is the one my heart is set on. However, what were they going to choose instead? I could have conceded Lost in Translation, but we all know a truly independent film will NEVER win, unless it's British. :lol: Besides, saying that The Return of the King was less than its predecessors is something totally different than saying that Star Wars: Episode III was less that its respected franchise. One was flawed, the other just bad.
The Top 10 Films of 2005:
1) Brokeback Mountain 2) The Squid and the Whale 3) Me And You And Everyone We Know 4) The New World 5) A History of Violence 6) Match Point 7) Munich 8.) Crash 9) Wallace and Gromit 10) Pride & Prejudice
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Well, I agree with you on RotK. It was way too long and didn't even feature Christopher Lee! :x And I really didn't like the spider sequence, being as arachnaphobic as I am, it seemed like they were just trying to gross people out. Oh, and RotS had a much better lava sequence then RotK. I was worried that Anakin falling in lava would look cheesy like Gollum's demise, but it was handled extremely well.
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Prince Eric wrote: I think you have the whole character of Darth Vadar wrong. A person who is supposed to be pure evil (but turns out to be not-so evil) doesn't start out as whiny. It's pure anger. The character of young Darth Vadar came off as whiny because Hayden portrayed him that way in a very bad performance. He simply did not understand the character, and like Moviemusicals.net has already said, George was stuck with him.

The Return of the King was the end to a great trilogy, while Star Wars: Episode III is just a mediocre one. This was by no means a bigger achievement, and it's your opinion that it's better. I'm just breathing a huge sigh of relief that the Academy, critics, people who view film as art have a different one. :wink:
In the original trilogy Obi Wan never gave much details to how Darth Vader was before he turned to evil. He just said he was the best piolt in the galaxy, a cunning warior and he was a good friend! He didn't say all the times he disobeyed him, Anikan could've been annoying with all the things he was going through. Even though Hayden was annoying at times I think he played the part right.

I don't consider Revenge of the Sith the end of just the new trilogy, I consider it to be the end of two trilogies, the new one and the original one, since George Lucas claims this is the last Star Wars. If it is then I think we should give it at least 11 oscars just to honor all the hard work George went into creating a franchise much better than Lord of the Rings will be. I mean George Lucas has heard of the word editing! Peter Jackson never heard of this word and kept making Fellowship and Return of the King longer! The only Lord of the Rings movie I liked was the Two Towers. And yet I think the Oscars went crazy when they gave Return of the King best editing since they didn't do any! So I think they should give Revenge of the Sith the oscars not because it's the best in the franchise, but because it's the last of the incredible franchise.
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Not to be argumentative Timon/Pumbaa fan, but the award for Editing isn't about how short or long a film is. Editing is an artistic decision, not a technical one. Basically, the editor is in charge of intergrating streams of film and choosing which camera angles to use and what not to use. THere's more to editing than let's cut this scene and keep this one in. :roll:
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MovieMusicals.net wrote:Peter Jackson done good.

And George Lucas done good for his Star Wars films Ep's 4, 5, and 6.
Perhaps if you had written the scripts for him, his films would have done gooder.
MovieMusicals.net wrote: And Hayden Christiansen is the worst actor I have ever seen. Must EVERY syllable of EVERY word of EVERY sentence be WHINED??? Horrible line deliveries throughout. Awful in every way. He acts with his eyes and nothing else. He makes me want to GAG. HORRIBLE. I can't say it enough. I was SO disappointed with this casting choice - HOW did it happen?? YUCK!
This was done good intentionally. George noticed tht 95% of all internet posters are whiners. So, he figured that most of you would be able to relate to the charcter if he was whining.
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Prince Eric wrote:
Timon/Pumba fan wrote:Your right MovieMusicals.net. We don't know what Lucas thought of him. For all we know I could be standing up to him just to find out Lucas dosen't like him. But I think that saying that Darth Vader wouldn't be whiny is not the case. I mean Anikan is a teenager in Clones and that's what teenagers do they whine! So all I'm really saying is you don't think he's playing the part right, but I thought he was fine. It just goes to show we all have different opinions! And that we shouldn't be at other's throats just because of it. Let's just end it at that.

But I think it should get nominated for Best Picture because people say that the reason Return of the King won so many was because it was an end to an "incredible cinema achievement"! But this is the end of a bigger ,and IMO, a better achievement. But yet I sadly don't think it'll happen! But if it won't happen to Star Wars why did it happen to Lord of the Rings?
I think you have the whole character of Darth Vadar wrong. A person who is supposed to be pure evil (but turns out to be not-so evil) doesn't start out as whiny. It's pure anger. The character of young Darth Vadar came off as whiny because Hayden portrayed him that way in a very bad performance. He simply did not understand the character, and like Moviemusicals.net has already said, George was stuck with him.

The Return of the King was the end to a great trilogy, while Star Wars: Episode III is just a mediocre one. This was by no means a bigger achievement, and it's your opinion that it's better. I'm just breathing a huge sigh of relief that the Academy, critics, people who view film as art have a different one. :wink:
Well, I think that YOU have the whole character of Darth Vader wrong! He is NOT supposed to be pure evil. Padme said this in Episode III. Luke said this in Return off the Jedi and Luke was right. There was still good in him!

Lucas himself has said in interviews that anakin was supposed to be whiny because he is a teeneager who is extremely gifted and ambitious. The Jedi council were afraid of him and were holding him back, they were unsure of what he would do.

Lastly, to respond to the above comments from previous posts about dealing with 'Star Wars nerds,' I also get sick of people bashing Lucas online. Not because of a difference of opinion but usually because they really don't know what they are talking about. Some people should just stick with watching movie musicals, perhaps? :wink:
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