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Ok, this NEW version does look like they are getting the brand back on track. I hope so.
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Yeah, that old concept picture from a while back does look great but you guys obvious didn't see the very next post :lol:

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/tv/embarrass ... -show.html

After you see this promotional art and read the synopsis, all enthusiasm will be gone. Sounds like another Loonatics Unleashed quality crapfest to me, I mean, Looney Tunes in suburbia. They'll probably turn it into a lame-ass sitcom. I think the Bah, Humduck! A Looney Tunes Christmas TV special is a pretty good indication of where they'll be taking this show.

Warner Bros. Animation (not to be confused with Cartoon Network Studios, who at least makes original material) has been taking the unoriginal path of turning past successful franchises into complete crap. Looney Tunes into Loonatics Unleashed and Baby Looney Tunes (the former is disgraceful). Batman: The Animated Series into The Batman and Batman: The Brave and the Bold (the latter is disgraceful). Superman: The Animated Series into Krypto the Superdog (how did this happen?). Justice League into Legion of Super Heroes (I reiterate). Scooby-Doo Where are You? into What's New, Scooby-Doo? and Shaggy & Scooby-Doo Get a Clue! (the latter is once again disgraceful). Tom and Jerry into Tom and Jerry Tales (terrible but far from the worst incarnations of the characters).

I'm willing to give Warner the benefit of the doubt with their next incarnation of Scooby-Doo Where are You?: Scooby-Doo - Mystery, Inc. (the pilot episode was just alright, the voices and designs were off), the next incarnation of Looney Tunes: The Looney Tunes Show (the premise sounds terrible, so does CGI Looney Tunes), and the next incarnation of Justice League/Teen Titans: Young Justice (with Greg Weisman among the producers, this should be good, as The Spectacular Spider-Man was a really great show that suffered from bad character designs and some bad voice acting [the character designs on the promotional art for this show aren't half-bad]. Oh-yeah, did I mention Greg Weisman created Gargoyles?).
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I am sorry, but there is no way that that will ever top the classic Looney Tunes shorts. Stretching it to a half hour per episode sounds like a really bad idea. I'll bet that it gets cancelled really fast, but that is just my opinion.
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I wonder why they don't just the people who did Tiny Toons and Animaniacs to do another show?
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What’s Up, Doc? New Looneys
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/20/movies/20looney.html

"A new 26-episode half-hour series, “The Looney Tunes Show,” is headed toward Cartoon Network in the fall and will star Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck as odd-couple roommates in a contemporary cul-de-sac. Yosemite Sam, Tweety Bird, Sylvester, Marvin the Martian and Porky Pig are their neighbors."

The CGI Road Runner cartoons looks interesting but the 2D Bugs and Daffy art makes me cringe. The proportions look all wrong. I really have a bad feeling about this show.
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You know what my biggest problem with this is? The WB just doesn't get it...

They want to re-invigorate the Looney Tunes franchises, but its doing so with gimmicks.

The Looney Tunes have played with Michael Jordan, they have starred in a James Bond spoof with Brendan Fraser, they've been turned into anti-heroes then into clean heroes, they've been baby-fied, they've been in fashion clothing and now they are on an animated sitcom.

The only gimmick that worked was Tiny Toons, but that was handled very differently and was almost a franchise apart from the Looney Tunes. But the biggest reason it worked was.... IT KEPT THE HUMOR AND SPIRIT OF THE CLASSIC SHORTS ALIVE! Sure, they had to make it modern and relevant but the humor was there. It was enjoyable, fun and very funny.

Why can't they do this anymore? They have to resort of gimmick to make the Looney Tunes interesting.

This is going to be a flop. Kids will think its lame while adults will lament the fact that its NOTHING like the classic shorts.
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Personally, I thought Duck Dodgers was a good show. Daffy was kept at a good medium between his screwy Avery/Clampett persona and his greedier, more agitated Jones character, as did Porky and Marvin stay faithful to their characters. If some of the people behind that show are working on this, than I have some more hope for this new Looney show than I did before.

I already thoguht that there was potential for this, after Tom & Jerr Tales proved to remain as faithful to the classics that it could. I'm not crazy on most of the other works for the Looney Tunes in the past few years or so, but this show sounds like it has the potential to keep true to the characters while modernizing the humor a little for a new audience.

Bugs, Daffy, Tweety, and the gang all mean a lot to me, about as much as most of Disney's properties, if not more, so I'll always be a little optimistic for the well-being of these character's new endeavors. I'm just hoping that if this does turn out well, if kids do like this show, that the classics will reach a new audience and remain forever timeless.
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The Road Runner/Coyote short looks good in cgi.....my only problem..the movie they are showing with it that it plays before in the theaters.. in 3D





http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/428042/ ... e/trailers

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Meanwhile, Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote are going back to work in movie theaters in a series of 3-D shorts. The first of these shorts — Warner has approved three, and three more are in development — will play ahead of the movie “Cats & Dogs: The Revenge of Kitty Galore,” which arrives in theaters July 30.


Also in that article I found this interesting.....perhaps the Taz animated series coming out?

The studio’s consumer products and home entertainment divisions are trying to do their share, releasing a new Nintendo game featuring the Tasmanian Devil in September and several new DVD compilations
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You know what would really keep Looney Toons living forever in new fans for each generation?

Showing the original cartoons on Cartoon Network like they used to! Just every day, late at night and early in the morning, and maybe noon. They can get rid of the crappy shows taking up space on there for this!

Because younger viewers won't think Looney Toons isn't modern enough if they are able to see these in their childhoods where they don't judge things like that yet.

And the same goes for Disney characters...

Though I must admit, maybe not show the really violent ones or ones that show suicide. Me and Tim talked about how we must have seen a thousand cartoons killing themselves before our very eyes at a very impressionable age! But I had such fond memories of seeing the old classics on Cartoon Network, kids are really missing out...
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jpanimation wrote:Yeah, that old concept picture from a while back does look great but you guys obvious didn't see the very next post :lol:

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/tv/embarrass ... -show.html

After you see this promotional art and read the synopsis, all enthusiasm will be gone. Sounds like another Loonatics Unleashed quality crapfest to me, I mean, Looney Tunes in suburbia. They'll probably turn it into a lame-ass sitcom. I think the Bah, Humduck! A Looney Tunes Christmas TV special is a pretty good indication of where they'll be taking this show.

Warner Bros. Animation (not to be confused with Cartoon Network Studios, who at least makes original material) has been taking the unoriginal path of turning past successful franchises into complete crap. Looney Tunes into Loonatics Unleashed and Baby Looney Tunes (the former is disgraceful). Batman: The Animated Series into The Batman and Batman: The Brave and the Bold (the latter is disgraceful). Superman: The Animated Series into Krypto the Superdog (how did this happen?). Justice League into Legion of Super Heroes (I reiterate). Scooby-Doo Where are You? into What's New, Scooby-Doo? and Shaggy & Scooby-Doo Get a Clue! (the latter is once again disgraceful). Tom and Jerry into Tom and Jerry Tales (terrible but far from the worst incarnations of the characters).

I'm willing to give Warner the benefit of the doubt with their next incarnation of Scooby-Doo Where are You?: Scooby-Doo - Mystery, Inc. (the pilot episode was just alright, the voices and designs were off), the next incarnation of Looney Tunes: The Looney Tunes Show (the premise sounds terrible, so does CGI Looney Tunes), and the next incarnation of Justice League/Teen Titans: Young Justice (with Greg Weisman among the producers, this should be good, as The Spectacular Spider-Man was a really great show that suffered from bad character designs and some bad voice acting [the character designs on the promotional art for this show aren't half-bad]. Oh-yeah, did I mention Greg Weisman created Gargoyles?).
Thanks for dashing my hopes! LOL! But seriously, what are they thinking? I think it still looks better then the last few Looney Tunes shows, but still, no where close to the classics. And the 3D Road Runner cartoon? WHY DO THEY KEEP TAKING CLASSIC 2D CHARACTERS AND MAKING THEM CG?!

The fact is they can't ever get back to the feel of the classics, not for this property, not in these days. It would not be PC for the WB to do so. Every parent group in the country would be knocking on the WB's front gate if they even tried to. Now don't get me wrong, personally I agree most of the time with these parent groups, but on Looney Tunes, not so much. It's just the way it is.

Giygas wrote:I wonder why they don't just the people who did Tiny Toons and Animaniacs to do another show?
Well, the biggest reason is because the WB isn't so good when it comes to how they handle their animation properties, just ask Brad Bird about that one! You can read about what killed Animaniacs here:

http://wba.toonzone.net/voice/august/animaniacs.html

For the most part, the WB has a horrid history when it comes to how they handle their animation. jpanimation already pointed much of that out above, but there is also their mismanagement of their Feature Animation division, that when nowhere mostly because they didn't know what they were doing. It looks like not much has changed.
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^Wow, talk about unnecessary. I mean, how can wb just not market the show differently to the rest of the lineup?
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Disney Duster wrote:You know what would really keep Looney Toons living forever in new fans for each generation?

Showing the original cartoons on Cartoon Network like they used to! Just every day, late at night and early in the morning, and maybe noon. They can get rid of the crappy shows taking up space on there for this!

Because younger viewers won't think Looney Toons isn't modern enough if they are able to see these in their childhoods where they don't judge things like that yet.
The problem with doing this and only this is that it's kind of hard to sell our generation to earlier cartoons without giving them something to pick up first. The original Tom & Jerry and Scooby-Doo cartoons are still aired because they frequently get new projects done, while in the past few years, all we really have got from the Looney Tunes is one unpopular toy commercial-esq reboot and a not as successful Christmas Carol retelling with some of the characters.

I think if this show does decently enough, Cartoon Network could try to add the original cartoons to their lineup again, and maybe kids will watch this time. The last time they tried it, a few months back, they didn't do so well, but with some new material to watch, kids might get into them.
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Figured I'd bump this thread for two reasons.

One, to post the preview of the upcoming show that we got from Comic Con.

Two, to say happy birthday to Bugs Bunny.

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Avaitor wrote:The last time they tried it, a few months back, they didn't do so well, but with some new material to watch, kids might get into them.
You mean they tried to show the classic cartoons a few months back but it didn't work?

I still don't see why they can't just show all the classics because they have so, so, so, so, so many of them! I don't see why new material is necessary when they have so much, and I don't see why a very young kids would't warm up to them if they saw them early enough just as I did!

As for the new show, it actually looks good to me so far, except the animation looks to me like a combination between the good classic animation and slightly cheap-o Flash animation or outsourced foreign country stuff.

Also, the Road Runner animation looks horrible, and it is not nearly as warm or inviting or nice as the characters looked in 2D animation.
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Avaitor wrote:The last time they tried it, a few months back, they didn't do so well, but with some new material to watch, kids might get into them.
You mean they tried to show the classic cartoons a few months back but it didn't work?
Back in November Cartoon Network put an hour of Looney Tunes back up at about 11 which lasted for about a month. This wasn't a good idea because older kids would be at school and most adults would be at work, which limits the audience to children in the 0-5ish range, which isn't really the ideal demographic at all.

I'm sure if the cartoons were on at a later time they would do better, and maybe that will be a possibility in the near future.
Disney Duster wrote: As for the new show, it actually looks good to me so far, except the animation looks to me like a combination between the good classic animation and slightly cheap-o Flash animation or outsourced foreign country stuff.
I initially wasn't a fan of the new designs, and I'm still lukewarm on them. I don't like Bugs' look at all, I don't like how pointy Daffy's feet are, and I don't like how Tweety doesn't have much of a body. In motion though, I think I can tolerate the new look more. They look decent fluid in animation, and since the budget isn't going to be as big for these as they were for the original cartoons(which wasn't much to begin with, even back then), I guess I can possibly live with the new looks, as long as the writing for the cartoons make up for them.
Disney Duster wrote: Also, the Road Runner animation looks horrible, and it is not nearly as warm or inviting or nice as the characters looked in 2D animation.
I'm not a fan of how the CGI looks in the show either, but before you completely write off Road Runner in 3D, I would recommend looking at the preview for the first new theatrical cartoon.

In my opinion, this looks much better and more respectful to Chuck Jones' original designs. On top of that, the gag in the preview is actually funny, while the one we got in the show's preview was just lame and predictable.
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what I want to know is will this Road Runner and Coyote short be shown in a 2d viewing of Cats and dogs 2? or will it be exlusive to 3-D showings....If it's in 2d I'll see it..if not...I can't justify driving out of town to support and see Cats and dogs 2....gas is too much
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