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Sotiris wrote:There's also a chance that Disney bought the only other Mulan script being shopped around to get rid of competition without intending to use it.
That's what I think, too. Sony Pictures is also developing a Mulan movie. They wouldn't want them to get their hands on a script and fast track a film into production.

The live-action Mulan will probably be a fairly faithful recreation of the animated film. I would be surprised if they didn't hire an all Asian cast for this film (with the exception of Mushu, who I expect will have an African-American voice actor). I imagine Disney probably wants to avoid the flack Universal and Legendary are getting for casting Matt Damon as the lead in a Great Wall of China movie.
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More details on the remake:
After the success of its live-action Cinderella ($543.5 million worldwide), Disney (which made 1998's animated version) began developing a live-action take on Mulan in early 2015. The studio bought a spec script by Lauren Hynek and Elizabeth Martin, then hired Jurassic World's Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver to rewrite. Insiders say the studio liked the rewrite so much that it fast-tracked the project, dating the 3D film for Nov. 2, 2018.

Disney is moving quickly to find a director, ideally Asian (Ang Lee was approached but passed; the studio is out to others), and there will be a global search to find a Chinese lead actress and love interest.
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It's a shame Ang Lee turned down the gig. He would have done an amazing job with the material.
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"Global" to find a Chinese actress...Because surely you can't find one in actual China, and I doubt they're gonna cast a Chinese latina or any other biracial in the role...
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estefan wrote:
Sotiris wrote:There's also a chance that Disney bought the only other Mulan script being shopped around to get rid of competition without intending to use it.
That's what I think, too. Sony Pictures is also developing a Mulan movie. They wouldn't want them to get their hands on a script and fast track a film into production.
I think you are both probably right, because it's very strange they would've been contemplating deviating so much from the original film. They cannot admit they bought it for that reason, so they gave another explanation. And I don't think they are fast-tracking the project because they liked the rewrite so much, but because they want to release the film before the Sony adaptation.
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Sony targets a non-Chinese/non-Asian Game of Thrones director for their MULAN flick!
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/76514
Sony Pictures just last week said that they were seeking out an Asian director for their Mulan project, which will not be related to the Disney flick...they've landed on TV director Alex Graves...The situation is also made worse with the recent comments by the studio that they were searching for an Asian director and apparently couldn't find one in the last five days.
I won't paste the whole article here, but I did like what the author wrote about hiring the best person for the job (not just Chinese directors for Chinese cultural films, or women directors for just women-led stories).

This isn't Disney's Mulan movie, obviously, but I wonder if this will have any impact...I doubt that Disney will not hire a Chinese director for their Mulan movie.
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Week-old casting call: http://www.projectcasting.com/casting-c ... sting-call
Mulan: 18 – 20 years old to play 18; must be able to speak fluent English and Mandarin Chinese; lithe, athletic, quick, tougher than she looks, Mulan lives in rural China in 630 AD, and her country is besieged, under attack by the Gokturk invaders. When her aging father volunteers to join the Army, Mulan sneaks out by night and takes his place, strapping down her breasts so she can pass for a man. There is a mysterious power inside Mulan, a power of speed and coordination and sheer force that places her at the peak of her unit- where no one suspects her secret.

Chen Honghui: In his 20s, must be able to speak fluent English and Mandarin Chinese; strapping, cocky and handsome, Honghui is another recruit who joins Commander Tung’s unit, and he’s determined to be the best soldier in human history. Full of himself, with a mean, bullying stream to him, he quickly realizes that Mulan is his chief rival, but he does not realize that she is a woman. Grittily determined to be simply the best at everything, Honghui is increasingly peeved by Mulan’s ability to match or out-maneuver him. But after learning that his rival is a woman, his intense feelings of rivalry turn into something very different, something like love.
I've been adoring Cinderella while forgetting the existence of Maleficent, so outright replacing Shang with a different character comes as a surprise to me.

It looks like live action Mulan takes place during the Tang dynasty when they defeated the Gokturks. No one has ever come to a consensus on when animated Mulan actually takes place, but the Tang dynasty was never one of the eras that came under consideration.
The Tang era had the best taste in fashion though, so I can at least look forward to that.
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Yeah for some reason I had this idea that they would reinterpret the story of Mulan in this version rather than straight out adapt the cartoon (so no Mushu, the three army guys, or the songs). i don't think people will miss these elements so much, although i can see some missing the songs. But the humor of Mushu would really stand out if they want to make a serious war movie.
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I would've preferred it to be closer to the animated movie since serious live action Mulan adaptions already exist. Fantastical elements can be removed, sure, but I definitely care less without the songs.
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kiseki wrote:Fantastical elements can be removed, sure, but I definitely care less without the songs.
Agreed. They should have at least kept "Reflection" and "I'll Make a Man Out of You". If they can shoehorn songs in The Jungle Book, I see no reason they can't have a couple of songs in Mulan too. I was kind of hoping they'd do the extended version of Reflection. That sequence would have looked amazing. :(

Changing the character of Li Shang is a horrible decision. The new character has such an overused, insipid, stock personality. We don't need another Lasseterian male character. We already have plenty of those. :glare:
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And here I thought Mulan would be one of the easiest films to transition into live-action. I’ve pretty much lost all interest in this.
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The thing about Mulan is that every generation of China has had its own version of it so there are multiple variations of the story. Even the Disney version took elements of a bunch of them. Shang technically only existed in the Disney version, but I can't remember if Chen came from any one of them. But I'm disappointed that Shang was cut out because I really liked him as a hero and even the name Chen is strikingly similar to Shang, almost like they want audiences to mistake the two.

I would have loved the full version of Reflection as well or the cut song Written in Stone by Stephen Schwartz. He wrote some other songs too that never saw the light of day so those would have been nice.

Also the animated Mulan did take place in the Tang Dynasty. It was confirmed in the audio commentary and also in an article that labeled it in the 7th century which is also like this new film. The actual movie takes elements of so many dynasties though so it's a medley.
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JeanGreyForever wrote:I would have loved the full version of Reflection as well or the cut song Written in Stone by Stephen Schwartz.
It's such a waste to do a live-action adaptation of a Disney musical and not include the songs. It's in the story's DNA and part of pop culture. There's already a 'serious', non-musical adaptation out there so what's the point of doing a diluted version of that?
JeanGreyForever wrote:He wrote some other songs too that never saw the light of day so those would have been nice.
Besides "Written in Stone", only one more song called "China Doll" got completed before Schwartz was ousted.
Stephen Schwartz wrote:The two songs I had completed for Mulan were a song called "China Doll", which more or less corresponds to the scene in the film in which Mulan goes to the matchmaker and a song called "Written in Stone", during the course of which she gets into soldier's clothing and rides her horse of to join the army. I had begun work on two other songs, "Destiny", which would have been the opening number for the film, and "We'll Make a Man of You", to be sung when she is trying to learn to be a soldier, but neither of those was far enough along to have been demo-ed. I can't imagine that Disney would ever release the demos of the two completed songs, but I suppose stranger things have happened.
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This is weird. I guess I can deal with it not being a musical, but replacing Shang with a random guy? I don't know about this now. This is too bad because this is like the only future remake that makes any sense.
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I can't believe I never knew Stephen Schwartz worked on Mulan. Why in the world did they oust him?

I agree, disneyprincess11. I could live with the music disappearing (although not using “I’ll Make a Man Out of You” at least would be stupid considering how popular the song is and it would work for a montage anyway, and “Reflection” would be fine as fodder to appear in the credits if nothing else), but replacing Shang killed this project for me.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:I can't believe I never knew Stephen Schwartz worked on Mulan. Why in the world did they oust him?
Because he agreed to write the songs for The Prince of Egypt. It was during the Eisner/Katzenberg feud and Disney gave him an ultimatum to either back out of it or be replaced on Mulan. He chose The Prince of Egypt, partly because it was unprofessional to go back on his word and partly because of his mistreatment by Disney. One of his songs for the film "Written in Stone" survives on Mulan Jr. Lea Salonga sings it often during her live performances. Incidentally, the score composer was also replaced. Rachel Portman was initially attached to score the film but she became pregnant and had to drop out.

Here are some performances of the song.

Lea Salonga Live Performance (from The Journey Continues at The Town Hall)
Lea Salonga Live Performance (from American Songbook at Lincoln Center)
Lucie Jones Live Performance (from Musicals Unsung at St. James Theatre)

Studio Recordings from the Mulan Jr. Accompaniment CD.

Written in Stone (Part 1)
Written in Stone (Part 2)
Written in Stone (Part 3)
Written in Stone (Reprise)
Written in Stone (Reprise)/Reflection (Reprise)
Written in Stone (Reprise)
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JeanGreyForever wrote:Also the animated Mulan did take place in the Tang Dynasty. It was confirmed in the audio commentary and also in an article that labeled it in the 7th century which is also like this new film. The actual movie takes elements of so many dynasties though so it's a medley.
That's interesting. I know they updated her Parks appearance to better reflect this, but it never felt very Tang to me. (Or to others from a quick search.)
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We finally have a director.

Niki Caro to direct Disney's live-action Mulan reboot
http://ew.com/movies/2017/02/14/niki-ca ... ot-disney/
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Sotiris wrote:Because he agreed to write the songs for The Prince of Egypt. It was during the Eisner/Katzenberg feud and Disney gave him an ultimatum to either back out of it or be replaced on Mulan. He chose The Prince of Egypt, partly because it was unprofessional to go back on his word and partly because of his mistreatment by Disney. One of his songs for the film "Written in Stone" survives on Mulan Jr. Lea Salonga sings it often during her live performances. Incidentally, the score composer was also replaced. Rachel Portman was initially attached to score the film but she became pregnant and had to drop out.

Here are some performances of the song.

Lea Salonga Live Performance (from The Journey Continues at The Town Hall)
Lea Salonga Live Performance (from American Songbook at Lincoln Center)
Lucie Jones Live Performance (from Musicals Unsung at St. James Theatre)

Studio Recordings from the Mulan Jr. Accompaniment CD.

Written in Stone (Part 1)
Written in Stone (Part 2)
Written in Stone (Part 3)
Written in Stone (Reprise)
Written in Stone (Reprise)/Reflection (Reprise)
Written in Stone (Reprise)
You could definitively tell the Schwartz-influence on the orchestration and the melody. Though of course being the lyricist, he still had a certain amount of influence, nonetheless. But I read that he was miscontent with some of his contributions. And the funny thing is how China Doll is a lyric in the song, when it was one of his deleted songs.

It's a pity that he couldn't continue to work on Mulan. I think he could've made his mark there.

I didn't even knew about Mulan Jr. Thanks for sharing it.
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We get confirmation that Mulan won't be a musical. Such a wasted opportunity. The change of the character of Li Shang along with reports that the remake will be "muscular, stronger, with touch of Ridley Scott" made me lose all interest in this project.
As for Mulan, another highly anticipated upcoming remake, directed by Whale Rider’s Niki Caro, Bailey calls it a fresh take on female empowerment, which is very important to the studio. (He confidently stated that Disney has “made far more $100 million-plus movies with female leads than all the other studios combined.”) “Mulan is clearly an empowered-female story but we can also do something new in this reimagining, make it a little more muscular, stronger, with touch of Ridley Scott,” he said. (Sources close to production say that, unlike Aladdin or Beauty and the Beast, Mulan is not expected to prominently feature songs, though that could change.) Another tantalizing aspect of Mulan: China. The story is based on a Chinese legend and gives Disney an opportunity to crack that fertile market in a big way, something that has clearly been on the company’s mind, exemplified, in the literally splashiest way possible, by last year’s opening of the Shanghai Disney Resort. “Obviously the idea of working with collaborators in China is an interesting opportunity too,” Bailey said.
Source: http://www.vulture.com/2017/03/beauty-a ... chine.html
The current draft of the new Mulan, for example, ditches the songs altogether. “I think it’s dangerous to fall into a playbook approach,” Bailey says.
Source: http://ew.com/movies/2017/03/24/beauty- ... n-remakes/
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