Passion of the Christ

ForeverGuyOfSatan · Post by **ForeverGuyOfSatan** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:22 pm

I can't talk about this too much but I am currently engaging in a lawsuit with Mr. Gibson concerning the negative portrayal of Lucifer in this film. Otherwise, I thought that it was pretty good. I am really a big fan of Dreamworks animation.

Prince Adam · Post by **Prince Adam** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:21 am

Um...kinda scary!

poco...can you get in here! PLEASE! you're trained to deal with this...I'm not!

jambo*rafiki · Post by **jambo*rafiki** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:21 pm

Hey, don't worry, Prince Adam. Although I hate Satan, I still know he's smart. The REAL Satan wouldn't say "you two shall rule" instead of "you too shall rule" in his signature.

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:14 pm

Sorry that I'm just now getting in here to discuss this. I saw The Passion on opening night and was completely blown away. The film was amazing. I'm a Christian, and a fundamentalist Christian at that, and found the movie to be remarkable in keeping with scriptures. The visuals are, indeed, haunting. But even more than that, they are reminding. I left the theater feeling many things, and none of them were bad or out of place. They were the sort of things I would hope that everyone would leave feeling. There was no hatred in that film. The message of love abounded, it was in ever scene and nearly ever line of dialogue. As an MSN review said, saying Gibson is inspiring anti-Jewish sentiment is like saying Spielberg inspired hatred for Germans. And so far, we have seen NO evidence of violence coming from this movie. I believe we are seeing the work of God at hand, and there is a great spiritual warfare in the world. The enemy is working against this movie, becuase he knows that God is moving in a powerful way with it.

Beyond all that, it's a FANTASTIC movie. So well-made... the score, the camera angles, the acting, the effects. My only complaint would be that it perhaps shows a little too much of Mary... but Mel is a Catholic, and it did bring a mother-son dynamic to the film that I think added to it.

It was all so real. I had to sit in the front row (so crowded!) and it was as if I was there. This is why I'm glad Mel went with Aramaic & Latin, it made it so much more authentic. Subtitles aren't difficult to follow and, having taken classes in Hebrew, I was able to understand bits of the Aramaic as well, and of course, Latin sounds like English and some Romance Languages anyways.

SWITCHING GEARS

I view the 144,000 in Rev. slightly different than MMBoy. I believe that they are a selected number of Jews who will remain after the Rapture and be annointed to preach to other Jews and un-saved about the Messiah during the Tribulation. The "great multitude," or as the Left Behind authors have termed it, the "soul harvest," refers to all those who remain after the Rapture that will receive salvation while on earth during the Tribulation.

Maybe that's what you were saying to, I may have just misunderstood. I've been studying eschatology in-depth for years now and am preparing to teach a class on it (hopefully) in a year or two as an undergraduate program... If anyone would like to discuss or has any questions, feel free to PM me as well.

Anyways, GO SEE THE PASSION

-Aaron

MickeyMouseboy · Post by **MickeyMouseboy** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 6:57 am

I don't know if you're talking to me but here's what I wrote

144,000 are to be rulers with Jesus in the heavens (Rev 5:9,10 says they will rule over the earth and are not limited to jews only) who are they going to rule with jesus? The bible speaks of a great crowd that no man was able to number of all nations, tribes, and peoples (Rev 7:9,10,14) These are the ones that have survives the great tribulation and will live on earth under new rulership under Jesus and the 144,000.

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:36 am

MickeyMouseboy wrote: who are they going to rule with jesus?

Sorry, I don't get what you're asking here.

MickeyMouseboy wrote:These are the ones that have survives the great tribulation and will live on earth under new rulership under Jesus and the 144,000.

I think this "great multitude" comes during the Tribulation, they don't necessarily survive it. I agree that they will live under Jesus' rulership on the new earth, though.

-Aaron

Maerj · Post by **Maerj** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:19 pm

Just saw the movie last night... very good film, excellent. It almost invalidates every other film ever made about Christ. We caught a bit of the 'Last Temptation of Christ' on TV last night, which I thought was a pretty good version, but after seeing the 'Passion,' it made 'Temptation' look like it had the realism of a school play. I'm not trying to tear down that film at all or any of the others, I just feel that Mel Gibson finally got it right.

I said once that I think Mel Gibson should go back and remake all of history in film. After 'Braveheart,' 'The Patriot,' and 'The Passion,' I stand by my statement. Excellent film!

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:31 pm

I've never seen The Last Temptation of Christ, but I've seen a lot of other Jesus movies, and tend to think they all have their place. So few of them really focus on tackling the last 12 hours, so Passion more than took care of that. Others do a great job of showing the birth and His teachings, etc. I think a movie of His birth could be made on the same calibur as Passion and it would be awesome. I also think a big undertaking should be made for Genesis: The Movie (probably a 2 part movie) that covers the whole book and leaves nothing out, all done literally.

-Aaron

MickeyMousePal · Post by **MickeyMousePal** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:47 pm

I saw it on Saturday.
It touch me very much and made me very very sad.

Those kinds of movies make me cry.

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:56 pm

I'd love for Mel to make this into a trilogy. He's done The Passion of the Christ, so I think it'd be interesting for him to do The Nativity of the Christ and the Ministry (or Life, or whatever sounds good) of the Christ. Then, people can watch all 3 films back to back to back and get an awesome 6 hour Jesus film that would put even Franco Zeffirelli's Jesus of Nazareth to shame. Of course, the people against The Passion will then cry out against the other two films by saying that Mel's milking the cash cow by making 2 Jesus prequels.

MickeyMousePal · Post by **MickeyMousePal** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:03 pm

Sequels that won't happen.
Presequels that is something different and may happen.
Mel Gibson should consider doing presequels.

Joe Carioca · Post by **Joe Carioca** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:03 pm

I'm curious and would like to watch the movie, but I don't think I have a stomache strong enough for it, hehe.

Maerj · Post by **Maerj** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:07 pm

Disneykid wrote:I'd love for Mel to make this into a trilogy. He's done The Passion of the Christ, so I think it's be interesting for him to do The Nativity of the Christ and the Ministry of the Christ.

Now THAT is a good idea. I really like this one. He could put the same amount of passion into those two as he has the last one and it would be an incredible trilogy.

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:25 pm

Joe Carioca wrote:I'm curious and would like to watch the movie, but I don't think I have a stomache strong enough for it, hehe.

I'm like you... not big on excessive gore. I won't lie, it's difficult to watch at points, but I made myself keep my eyes open, and I made it without getting sick. It's more intense than it is disgusting.

I like the trilogy idea too.

-Aaron

Prince Adam · Post by **Prince Adam** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:34 pm

Maerj wrote:
Disneykid wrote:I'd love for Mel to make this into a trilogy. He's done The Passion of the Christ, so I think it's be interesting for him to do The Nativity of the Christ and the Ministry of the Christ.
Now THAT is a good idea. I really like this one. He could put the same amount of passion into those two as he has the last one and it would be an incredible trilogy.

Agreed. I've always wanted a decent movie depicting the Nativity. The only ones I've seen that are historically accurate are dull, and show Joseph as a 50 year old while Mary's only 13.

PS Maerj-What is that on your avatar?

Maerj · Post by **Maerj** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:52 pm

Prince Adam wrote:
PS Maerj-What is that on your avatar?

Some sort of shaman or something. I found it in an old email and decided that it would make a nice avatar.

umbreongirl · Post by **umbreongirl** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:32 pm

My mom wants us all to see it in theatres. We probably won't, though. My mom hates crowds.
Other than that, this movie looks really strong (sad). I hate sad movies and I'm a big pansy. If I do see this, I'll probably cry my heart out. v_v

MickeyMouseboy · Post by **MickeyMouseboy** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:09 am

awallaceunc wrote:
MickeyMouseboy wrote: who are they going to rule with jesus?
Sorry, I don't get what you're asking here.

I wasnt asking anyone a question, I was posing a question and answering it. Who are they [the 144,000] going to rule over with Jesus? which I answered: "The bible speaks of a great crowd that no man was able to number of all nations, tribes, and peoples (Rev 7:9,10,14) These are the ones that have survives the great tribulation and will live on earth under new rulership under Jesus and the 144,000."

awallaceunc wrote:
MickeyMouseboy wrote:These are the ones that have survives the great tribulation and will live on earth under new rulership under Jesus and the 144,000.
I think this "great multitude" comes during the Tribulation, they don't necessarily survive it. I agree that they will live under Jesus' rulership on the new earth, though.

-Aaron

Ec 1:4 and Ps 104:5 speak about the literal earth been permanent. there is not going to be a new literal earth but a new earth as in new rulership and life under Jesus Christ free from plagues that attack us now (satan and his demons, ungodly men, etc) Read Gen 7:23, 2Pe 3:5-7 speaks about everything been wiped off [evil doers, corrupt people and things] the earth in the diluge. Again the ungodly people were wiped out not the earth. Why would God destroy the earth when he can just wiped out everything again? Why would he destroy his wonderful work to create it again? I think the first would be more reasonable, logical, and easier for him than start from scratch. 2 Th 1:6-9 again explains this ungodly people will be destroyed, cut of from existance, poof be gone, etc... again not the literal earth will be destroyed.

Rev 7:9,14 says "The Great Crowd have come out of the great tribulation" have come out means that they've survived it, they were in it [The Tribulation] but have come out alive from it.

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:10 am

This film undoubtably has moments of intense violence and is not suitable for young children.

However, any adult should be able to handle it without dificulty. No one should refrain from seeing this movie just because they are afraid of seeing some violence. Contrary to what some people are trying to claim, this movie does not even come close to being the most violent movie ever made. Also, unlike other movies, it is not violence simply for the sake of violence; the violence has a clear purpose and the movie would not be as effective without it. There are dozens of films that show much more blood and gore and many more people being violently killed.

If you are going to see one violent movie this year, it should be The Passion of the Christ.

umbreongirl · Post by **umbreongirl** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:12 pm

Who said I wasn't gonna see it just because of violence and sad parts?
I HAVE to see this. By choice AND by force. I hope they'll let me bring a box of tissues in the theatre......v_v

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