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Every Dark Age film except The Great Mouse Detective, they all kind of bore me.

I agree about Mulan. It's a nice film but it doesn't excite me as it used to be and in my opinion it's one of Disney's overrated films.
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I don't think there are many movies that feels just as magic when you watch them as adults as when you sad them as a kid. One of the sad things about growing up. I loved Beauty and the Beast when I saw it the first time. Then years later I finally bought it on DVD, and to my disappointment all the magic was gone. Most of the songs were not catchy anymore, and parts of the movie was actually boring. I ended up selling it to a second-hand shop along with a DVD-version of Full Circle (1977).
It would actually be very interesting if some neurologists or other kind of scientists that do brain research were able to find out why so much of what you are obsessed with as a child doesn't feel like anything special at all when you get older. If I could see movies and read books and comics the way I did as a kid, I would be ecstatic.
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DisneyFan09 wrote:I've seen that I've already given my explanation to this tread, but I've come up with another suggestion;

Cinderella. As a kid I did like it for what it was, since Cinderella was my favorite fairy tale as a child. But I've ranted about it's faults priorly, so I won't repeat myself.
Since Cinderella remains my favorite film and story, so much so that I don't even mind people saying negative things about it, I'd like if you said your reasons here.
Rumpelstiltskin wrote:I don't think there are many movies that feels just as magic when you watch them as adults as when you sad them as a kid. One of the sad things about growing up. I loved Beauty and the Beast when I saw it the first time. Then years later I finally bought it on DVD, and to my disappointment all the magic was gone. Most of the songs were not catchy anymore, and parts of the movie was actually boring. I ended up selling it to a second-hand shop along with a DVD-version of Full Circle (1977).
It would actually be very interesting if some neurologists or other kind of scientists that do brain research were able to find out why so much of what you are obsessed with as a child doesn't feel like anything special at all when you get older. If I could see movies and read books and comics the way I did as a kid, I would be ecstatic.
Wow, the film I consider to be Disney's best. I've only ever heard one person say they found anything boring as they grew up, and that was Belle's character. But me and Disney's Divinity did say we found the film boring as kids, only now to see the film as Disney's best as grown ups. I don't think anything's boring in the film.

What you said about scientists studying our brains to see if we could still enjoy things the same way as adults really echoes how I have felt sometimes, but I'm worried about what that could do. Could you imagine us screwing up our brains and our lives by being adults but seeing things the same way we did as kids? And also, seeing things with adult eyes shows us more how truly good or bad films are.
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Eh I'd say it's a combination of things leaving a bigger impression on you as a child, and overall having this sense of innocence and wonder of the world in general. Before you know of politics, low paying jobs, college, caring for sick family members...The world just seems a little brighter and more optimistic. And then real life comes in with its struggles and prohibitions, and how not everyone can be successful and "live their dreams"...Well, yeah, you feel the magic going away.
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If I am going to be honest, I'd go with Fox and the Hound. Well Ok I wouldn't say it's one of my favorites as a kid but I did like it a little better when I was younger but looking back at it now, it kind of feels a little overly saccharine and kind of dull in places. It also feels less like it's about the friendship between Tod and Copper and more about Tod growing up and learning to adjust. Dinky and Boomer don't really serve a purpose outside of helping Tod get to Widow Tweed. The two most striking scenes in the movie are the bear fight and the scene at the very beginning which I really love for the atmosphere and the fact that it takes the opposite direction from most Disney films and doesn't start off with a big booming musical number or any music at all which gives it an eerie quality. It's not a bad movie by any means. It has a good premise and some of the animation is pretty good, but it doesn't really stand out.
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Tristy wrote:If I am going to be honest, I'd go with Fox and the Hound. Well Ok I wouldn't say it's one of my favorites as a kid but I did like it a little better when I was younger but looking back at it now, it kind of feels a little overly saccharine and kind of dull in places. It also feels less like it's about the friendship between Tod and Copper and more about Tod growing up and learning to adjust. Dinky and Boomer don't really serve a purpose outside of helping Tod get to Widow Tweed. The two most striking scenes in the movie are the bear fight and the scene at the very beginning which I really love for the atmosphere and the fact that it takes the opposite direction from most Disney films and doesn't start off with a big booming musical number or any music at all which gives it an eerie quality. It's not a bad movie by any means. It has a good premise and some of the animation is pretty good, but it doesn't really stand out.
I agree. I liked The Fox and the Hound as a kid but now I find it boring.
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I like The Fox and the Hound much more now as an adult.
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I felt different seeing things as a kid, it wasn't just that I thought different things. I say the changes in our brains as we grow up does effect how we enjoy things or don't.

The Fox and the Hound is one of those films kind of boring in fun entertainment and higher in intelligent and emotional ideas. I appreciate it much more as an adult.
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You know what, I used to have the indication The Fox and the Hound had a bigger fanbase amongs adults. Though I'm not denying it's influence on children, though, I discovered that adults especially seem to have a certain fondness for the film.

As for myself, I saw Hound at the age of eleven and liked it well enough (though not enough to be truly obsessed with it, at least it was), but my affection for the film has grown wider since I've rediscovered it as an adult.
JeanGreyForever wrote:Hercules and Mulan are both fine films and I preferred them as a kid to the more serious and mature Pocahontas and The Hunchback of Notre Dame, but now I much more prefer drama over comedy which is why Pocahontas and Hunchback are easily two of my favorites now. Hercules is an extremely flawed film, comedy aside, that it doesn't surprise me that to so many people in 1997, Anastasia felt more like a Disney movie than Hercules ever did.
I was a kid/tween when Pocahontas and Hunchback was released and a early teenager when Hercules and Mulan came along. And at the time I felt both latter films were lackluster, mainly because I found them stale and generic and lacked the strengths of the two former films. Mainly because I found their ambitions downgraded from the progressions from Pocahontas and Hunchback. However, fortunately I learned to love Hercules and discovered that it was captivating at it's own right, which I never did with Mulan, though I realize than Mulan is pretty solid on it's own merits. But I've ranted about why I consider Mulan to be lackluster enough already, so yeah, I'm putting it on the overrated-shelf.

As for Anastasia, I liked it well enough when I saw it initially and while it still has it's perks, I find the film to be inferior than I initially found it to be.
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I quite liked Pocahontas as a child, but I really don't think it's that great as an adult. It has some beautiful animation/art and the score is good, but it's too serious for its own good and the dialogue is pretty corny. Moreover the approach to race, while well-meaning, is still pretty naive and white-washed given the whole history of the plight of Native Americans. As regards race, I think it's as problematic as Song of the South to some extent.

Others that spring to mind include Oliver and Company (just generally rather bland and the darkness and violence towards the end seemed really out of step with the beginning of the film), Tarzan (just a bit boring, plus the scene where they trash the camp is embarrassing) and The Rescuers (cute enough, but a bit slow and childish).
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DisneyFan09 wrote:You know what, I used to have the indication The Fox and the Hound had a bigger fanbase amongs adults. Though I'm not denying it's influence on children, though, I discovered that adults especially seem to have a certain fondness for the film.

As for myself, I saw Hound at the age of eleven and liked it well enough (though not enough to be truly obsessed with it, at least it was), but my affection for the film has grown wider since I've rediscovered it as an adult.
I've noticed too that out of all the Dark Age films, The Fox and the Hound has the most passionate fans. People who as children were struck by the theme of segregation and especially the bittersweet ending. I suppose the only other movie with a non-traditional ending like that is Pocahontas in the Disney canon. Maybe Meet the Robinsons too to an extent because Lewis never gets to meet his mom after all even if it is his choice.
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JeanGreyForever wrote:I've noticed too that out of all the Dark Age films, The Fox and the Hound has the most passionate fans. People who as children were struck by the theme of segregation and especially the bittersweet ending. I suppose the only other movie with a non-traditional ending like that is Pocahontas in the Disney canon. Maybe Meet the Robinsons too to an extent because Lewis never gets to meet his mom after all even if it is his choice.
It may be shallow to claim this, but probably because of it's premise being like Bambi, having the traditionally cute, Disney-esque components. And personally I never considered the ending to be as unhappy as people want it to be, since Tod and Copper (somewhat) restores their conflict.
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DisneyFan09 wrote:
JeanGreyForever wrote:I've noticed too that out of all the Dark Age films, The Fox and the Hound has the most passionate fans. People who as children were struck by the theme of segregation and especially the bittersweet ending. I suppose the only other movie with a non-traditional ending like that is Pocahontas in the Disney canon. Maybe Meet the Robinsons too to an extent because Lewis never gets to meet his mom after all even if it is his choice.
It may be shallow to claim this, but probably because of it's premise being like Bambi, having the traditionally cute, Disney-esque components. And personally I never considered the ending to be as unhappy as people want it to be, since Tod and Copper (somewhat) restores their conflict.
The film was touted as the next Bambi and perhaps if Chief's death hadn't been waived away, it might have been more similarly received as Bambi. Although imo the songs are lackluster and the supporting cast is generally generic.

Most people I've heard talk about how the ending was bittersweet because even though Tod and Copper make amends, they both go their separate ways and realize they can never be friends again. I think that really struck with some people because it was such a realistic ending when sometimes two people simply can't go back to the way it was.
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Peter Pan and The Jungle Book.

I used to really love both but having watched them years later when I got them on blu-ray, I found them both to have aged terribly.
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JeanGreyForever wrote:The film was touted as the next Bambi and perhaps if Chief's death hadn't been waived away, it might have been more similarly received as Bambi. Although imo the songs are lackluster and the supporting cast is generally generic.
Yeah, the references to Bambi are so overt and obvious that even some scenes are duplicated :P The survival of Chief has been labeled as one of the film's biggest flaws by the majority. Otherwise I don't find the supporting cast generic, but the songs are lackluster (though the score ain't).
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I het why people are sentimental abou The Fox and the Hound. It has a good bittersweet ending. But as I see it that and the theme of 'society will tear you apart' are the only things standing out in this film.

Most of the scenes are Todd messing with the farm, Todd and Copper playing hide and seek, two birds I don't care about and don't even remember their names chasing a caterpillar...

The thing is I already saw a Bambi and it was a masterpiece, I never saw the need to "recreate" the film. It had better animation (probably the best animation in any film seen so far), it had better score and better music.
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DisneyFan09 wrote:Otherwise I don't find the supporting cast generic, but the songs are lackluster (though the score ain't).
Not all the supporting cast but a few come to mind. Vixey namely. I always found Maid Marian to be incredibly boring and simply there to serve as the love interest but placeholder female is really defined by Vixey. She serves no other purpose except to give Tod a love interest. The fact that she doesn't even get a proper name (she's literally just named after he gender and species) shows how bland the character is. I also didn't care for the caterpillar and the two birds who just hogged screentime, although they're not nearly as bad as Napoleon and Lafayette in The Aristocats.
farerb wrote:I het why people are sentimental abou The Fox and the Hound. It has a good bittersweet ending. But as I see it that and the theme of 'society will tear you apart' are the only things standing out in this film.

Most of the scenes are Todd messing with the farm, Todd and Copper playing hide and seek, two birds I don't care about and don't even remember their names chasing a caterpillar...

The thing is I already saw a Bambi and it was a masterpiece, I never saw the need to "recreate" the film. It had better animation (probably the best animation in any film seen so far), it had better score and better music.
I honestly don't even remember much of the movie except for the parts you listed and the opening which is also atypical for a Disney film. Bambi and The Lion King both waited to kill off a parent at least. Trying to recreate a classic almost always never works out and most of Disney's current live-action films are a testament to that.
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I've never thought The Fox and the Hound was anything like Bambi outside Vixey being a glorified babymaker like Faline. Sure, the mother dies at the beginning, but characters are orphaned all the time in Disney movies.

The Lion King, on the other hand... (And many would argue that film is better than Bambi.)
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Disney's Divinity wrote: Sure, the mother dies at the beginning, but characters are orphaned all the time in Disney movies.
True, but that comparison is a rather shallow one. The mother dies, but in a different placement of the story (to set up Tod's orphanhood), so it's not as emotionally devastating than when Bambi's mom gets shot.
farerb wrote:The thing is I already saw a Bambi and it was a masterpiece, I never saw the need to "recreate" the film. It had better animation (probably the best animation in any film seen so far), it had better score and better music.
I don't think that it's necessarily about recreation, but to paying homage and making something that is influenced by it.
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