Rudy Matt wrote:Well, if the sets died with Roy, then all I can say is, thank you, thank you, thank you, Roy Disney, for sharing the joy and entertainment of your father, your uncle, and your co-workers with us. Thank you for the Treasure Sets, in addition to everything else your faimly did for our families.
God bless you, God speed you, and we will all meet up with you some day. In the meantime, those of us who have been collecting the sets from Day 1 have dozens of volumes to enjoy for years to come. It was much more than we expected, perhaps more than we deserved, and I for one will be eternally thankful.
This. Great post. I feel we are in a much worse place now that he is gone.
>>But I REALLY want to see a Jiminy Cricket set.<<
Me too. With all the Mickey Mouse Club educational shorts (like the I'm No Fool and Encyclopedia series), as well as the TV hours hosted by Jiminy (like From All of Us to All of You, On Vacation, This is Your Life Donald Duck and the rest).
Don't we go through this every year? I mean, seriously, there's always a big "No more Disney Treasures" scare. I don't doubt the line will end eventually, and it is the most important part of my DVD collection to me. I never want it to end until every bit of footage owned by Disney is in my collection, but especially the "important" stuff like the rest of the shorts and the Ludwig TV episodes (and Moby Duck and episodes hosted by other toons). And, I definitely want the rest of Swamp Fox! Not to mention Disneyland Showtime and the EPCOT opening celebration! But, they will kill the line when they want, and my time as a member in an exclusive Disney Home Entertainment consumer relations forum didn't do wonders to get me to believe they were interested in our opinions about the Disney Treasures collections. Personally, I don't think the line is going to end yet. Not after last year's drastically different pair of releases.
In case anyone has forgotten, here's what should go in the Walt Disney Treasures: Ludwig Von Drake DVD set:
Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color (one hour TV shows):
An Adventure in Color/Mathmagic Land (24 September 1961)
The Hunting Instinct (22 October 1961)
Inside Donald Duck (5 November 1961)
Kids Is Kids (10 December 1961)
Carnival Time (4 March 1962)
Von Drake in Spain (8 April 1962)
Man Is His Own Worst Enemy (21 October 1962)
Three Tall Tales (6 January 1963)
Inside Outer Space (2 February 1963)
A Square Peg in a Round Hole (3 March 1963)
Fly with Von Drake (13 October 1963)
The Truth About Mother Goose (17 November 1963)
In Shape with Von Drake (22 March 1964)
A Rag, a Bone, a Box of Junk (11 October 1964)
Music for Everybody (30 January 1966)
A Salute to Alaska (2 April 1967)
Theatrical Featurette:
A Symposium on Popular Songs (1962)
Records:
Professor Ludwig Von Drake (Disneyland LP)
Twistin' With Professor Ludwig Von Drake (The Von Drake Quake) (BV Single)
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merlinjones wrote:In case anyone has forgotten, here's what should go in the Walt Disney Treasures: Ludwig Von Drake DVD set:
Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color (one hour TV shows):
An Adventure in Color/Mathmagic Land (24 September 1961)
The Hunting Instinct (22 October 1961)
Inside Donald Duck (5 November 1961)
Kids Is Kids (10 December 1961)
Carnival Time (4 March 1962)
Von Drake in Spain (8 April 1962)
Man Is His Own Worst Enemy (21 October 1962)
Three Tall Tales (6 January 1963)
Inside Outer Space (2 February 1963)
A Square Peg in a Round Hole (3 March 1963)
Fly with Von Drake (13 October 1963)
The Truth About Mother Goose (17 November 1963)
In Shape with Von Drake (22 March 1964)
A Rag, a Bone, a Box of Junk (11 October 1964)
Music for Everybody (30 January 1966)
A Salute to Alaska (2 April 1967)
Theatrical Featurette:
A Symposium on Popular Songs (1962)
Scratch "Symposium". They already released that on the Disney Rarities set, so we must refrain from double-dipping.
Instead, they should probably take a cue from Chronological Donald Vol. 4 and include Von Drake's MouseWorks cartoons (despite MerlinJones' hatred of almost all post-Walt Disney Company productions).
Scratch "Symposium". They already released that on the Disney Rarities set, so we must refrain from double-dipping.
They've double-dipped on Treasures stuff before. Donald Duck shorts were included in both On the Front Lines and Chronological Donald, Volume 2. Several Mickey shorts were included in both Mickey Mouse In Living Color and Complete Pluto, Volume 1. And I think there are one or two Disneyland episodes that got repeated.
I'd love a Chip 'n' Dale Treasure set, even if it'll be a double dip of all their shorts (except 3).
albert
WIST #60:
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TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?
Escapay wrote:
I'd love a Chip 'n' Dale Treasure set, even if it'll be a double dip of all their shorts (except 3).
albert
I think that'll be a waste of a set to be honest. I wouldn't want buy a whole treasure set for a total of 3 shorts. I'm sure there are other sets that those shorts could be more appropriately placed on.
Escapay wrote:
I'd love a Chip 'n' Dale Treasure set, even if it'll be a double dip of all their shorts (except 3).
albert
I think that'll be a waste of a set to be honest. I wouldn't want buy a whole treasure set for a total of 3 shorts. I'm sure there are other sets that those shorts could be more appropriately placed on.
>>I'd love a Chip 'n' Dale Treasure set, even if it'll be a double dip of all their shorts (except 3).<<
I'd also want this to include "The Adventures of Chip an' Dale" TV hour from Walt Disney Presents (with Walt's voice-over restored - - it was replaced by the announcer after his death).
I'd buy it to have all of this material in one place.
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>>Instead, they should probably take a cue from Chronological Donald Vol. 4 and include Von Drake's MouseWorks cartoons (despite MerlinJones' hatred of almost all post-Walt Disney Company productions).<<
Well, "hatred" is a rather irresponsible term. In truth, I'm quite fond of The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin - - and greatly admire all the Pixar films - - as these are so much in the spirit of Walt Disney's own legacy.
But the Treasures is great series because it makes available more of Walt Disney's personal work as a filmmaker (and that of his Studio, artists and collaborators). There were/are actual living creative artists with very specific talents, themes, art aesthetics, tones, ideas in their work - - For better or worse, it's simply not the same as current product made by very different people with very different ideas for very different times and purposes.
It's like expecting that a love of Hitchcock's work would make one have to appreciate all the new product from NBC-Universal - - or liking MGM Arthur Freed musicals, classic Looney Tunes or early Hanna-Barbera shows would necessitate a stamp of approval for all current Time-Warner products.
The corporations are rights holders and marketers of new material and old - - the artists of the past were specific artists whose work persists through time.
I happen to like Walt Disney's movies and would like to see them all available and perpetuated to new generations - - and that's no reflection on current material, because it's simply not the same thing at all in my view.
I agree with Slave2moonlight. Maltin has been ambiguous (at best) on the continuation of the Treasures series for the past three years. He never seems to think they will do another series or has no immediate knowledge of any pending release and presto a few months later Disney announces another year. I don't know if he is the hype machine behind Disney's marketing plan or what. Granted the number of prints released has drastically been reduced over the years, but they sell.
Someday it will end, but my hope for more releases does not necessarily diminish on Maltin's statement alone.
merlinjones wrote:Ranger Woodlore hosted episodes from Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color:
The Ranger of Brownstone
A Ranger's Guide to Nature
Nature's Better Built Homes
(non-Ranger The Coyote's Lament might be a good bonus complement)
Magic Mirror (Hans Conreid) hosted shows:
One Hour in Wonderland
The Walt Disney Christmas Show (1952)
All About Magic
Magic and Music
Our Unsung Villains
Disney's Greatest Villains
Jiminy Cricket hosted hour shows:
Jiminy Cricket Presents Bongo
Monsters of the Deep
On Vacation
Donald's Award
This is Your Life Donald Duck
From All of Us to All of You
Chip an Dale hosted:
The Adventures of Chip an Dale
(plus there's all the Mickey, Donald, Goofy et al related shows and Moby Duck, Scrooge McDuck, It's Tough to be a Bird, etc)
Hold on a minute! Merlinjones, I don't recall Jiminy appeared in Monsters of the Deep. Though, can you show me proof or something? I thought the episode was basically the narrator tells the information about creatures under the sea, at least what I've heard of.
On-topic: If Disney doesn't continue the Disney Treasures after the loss of Roy E. Disney, I probably won't see the Ludwig Von Drake set or Jiminy Cricket set a light of day.
EDIT: You forgot to mention, "Nature's Charter Tours". Ranger Woodlore appeared in that episode.
>>Hold on a minute! Merlinjones, I don't recall Jiminy appeared in Monsters of the Deep. Though, can you show me proof or something? I thought the episode was basically the narrator tells the information about creatures under the sea, at least what I've heard of.<<
I didn't think so either, but his IMDB listing did. Must be mistaken.
>>On-topic: If Disney doesn't continue the Disney Treasures after the loss of Roy E. Disney, I probably won't see the Ludwig Von Drake set or Jiminy Cricket set a light of day.<<
That's why it should happen with this series. As time passes, fewer and fewer marketers know what these shows are. These classic shows shouldn't disappear into the vaults forever.
>>EDIT: You forgot to mention, "Nature's Charter Tours". Ranger Woodlore appeared in that episode.<<
Thank you - - I was trying to think of the other one!
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If the recent sets are not selling up to expectations, even with lower production runs, then all the pretty words in the world will not convince the people in charge to continue the series. A corporation has to fund projects that will make them the most profit or at least some profit to keep the investors happy. The most persuasive argument for more Treasures releases is additional revenue.
"Mustard? Don't let's be silly!"
--Mad Hatter, Alice in Wonderland
>>If the recent sets are not selling up to expectations, even with lower production runs, then all the pretty words in the world will not convince the people in charge to continue the series.<<
The recent sets are selling out - - they can't sell more if there are no more to order. The aftermarket prices for Dr Syn, Zorro, et al are ridiculously high, indicating unsatisfied demand.
For some reason, these releases have not been designed to reach the mainstream market. Planned obsolescence?
