Oliver & Company- 20th Anniversary Edition
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Walt Disney Home Entertainment has announced a special edition dvd release of Oliver & Company for February 3, 2009. Extras on this release will include “Never-Before-Released Material On DVD: The Making of Oliver & Company”, “Return Of A Classic”, Academy Award winning animated short “Lend A Paw”, and more.
So there will be a new documentary...
Walt Disney Home Entertainment has announced a special edition dvd release of Oliver & Company for February 3, 2009. Extras on this release will include “Never-Before-Released Material On DVD: The Making of Oliver & Company”, “Return Of A Classic”, Academy Award winning animated short “Lend A Paw”, and more.
So there will be a new documentary...

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blackcauldron85 wrote:http://www.animated-news.com/2008/olive ... -february/
Walt Disney Home Entertainment has announced a special edition dvd release of Oliver & Company for February 3, 2009. Extras on this release will include “Never-Before-Released Material On DVD: The Making of Oliver & Company”, “Return Of A Classic”, Academy Award winning animated short “Lend A Paw”, and more.
So there will be a new documentary...
I think their information is wrong. If you look at the link AN provides as their source it leads to the old edition of the DVD.
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Look, it takes a lot more than a sprinkling of pixie dust to create hi-def masters, especially if the film in question requires restoration---and even more especially if the studio is going back to create 4k resolution scans of the original negative, the infrastructure for which has only been in place since 2006. The technological & human resources required for that kind of work are not inconsiderable, nor are they unlimited. If they rushed a bunch of titles out just to have content available on the format, it'd be like the early days of Disney DVD all over again. Ultimately I'd much rather they get it done right than get it done quickly.nomad2010 wrote:personally i think it's stupid disney is not putting an effort into putting non-platinum movies on blu. does this mean we won't get aladdin? i hope not. im so mad. i was really looking forward to this on blu-ray.
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so is disney supposed to just not release any films until animation is prooven to sell well on blu-ray?
That would be rediculous. Disney begins placng these releases into production long before they announce them. The company has probably had this release in production for months already in order to be able to give us an idea of what is on the disc and cover art. They also need to print out the hundereds of thousands of copies that will be shipped to hundreds of thousands or locations all across R1. The fact is, this release was in full swing long before the Sleeping Beauty PE which is a test on Blu-ray. Judging by how well it sells will determine when we get to see more DAC's on blu-ray. Not to mention, they do NEED to resore many of the DAC's before they are even considered for Blu-ray. It's going to take some time.
Now please, read this a few times and let is sink in. We will probably not see any other DAC's on blu-ray (besides the PE's of course) for another year. Just anticipate that, because personally I'm getting tired of reading how pissed off people are that this or that release isn't going to be on blu-ray. It's really naive of you all to sit here and critisize films or releases of films and not understand why this release is not on blu-ray.

Now please, read this a few times and let is sink in. We will probably not see any other DAC's on blu-ray (besides the PE's of course) for another year. Just anticipate that, because personally I'm getting tired of reading how pissed off people are that this or that release isn't going to be on blu-ray. It's really naive of you all to sit here and critisize films or releases of films and not understand why this release is not on blu-ray.
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It has NOT been officially announced that ALADDIN is out of the Platinum line.nomad2010 wrote:personally i think it's stupid disney is not putting an effort into putting non-platinum movies on blu. does this mean we won't get aladdin? i hope not. im so mad. i was really looking forward to this on blu-ray.
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I am definetly getting this! I never saw it and I can't wait. I know many people are not that hyped about the "new" releases of Gold Collections / Special editions titles but I for one appreciate them a lot since I vowed never to get any Gold stuff
Anyway, most of the movies they re-release aren't movies I care that much about (like this one, or Winnie, or Sword, or Robin Hood, that I had never seen before buying the DVD) so the lack of great extras doesn't bother me that much.

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If this really doesn't have the new documentary, then this first sentence of yours is sad- if they had planned the release so long ago, you'd think that they'd have time to whip something up for the bonus features! And are you saying that if SB sells well, we'll see more DACs on Blu-ray, or if O&Co. sells well, we'll see more DACs on Blu-ray? I know that I usually take into consideration the Disney fans' feelings before I consider the ordinary parent's feelings, but these rereleases would sell better if fans had an incentive to purchase the DVDs; how many people are double-dipping on SB because of the new bonus features? I'm not, but a lot of people are. How many of us would double-dip on O&Co. if the new disc had even one decent documentary? I would....It just makes me sad that Disney doesn't seem to care- they just don't put the effort in. They could put something new on the disc without too much trouble, I'm sure. I'm glad that they put in the effort for SB, I am, but what about their non-PE movies? *sigh*singerguy04 wrote: The fact is, this release was in full swing long before the Sleeping Beauty PE which is a test on Blu-ray. Judging by how well it sells will determine when we get to see more DAC's on blu-ray.
Even though I don't buy Blu-ray discs, I can understand the frustration of those of you who do who want to build up your collection. Saying that, though, I am glad that Disney isn't putting out these low-effort rereleases on DVD while putting the same movie on a bonus-features-packed Blu-ray. That wouldn't be fair.

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That's nothing new for Disney: Lady and the Tramp (PE), Sleeping Beauty (PE) were both released as 50th Anniversary Editions. Lady and the Tramp a year late, and Sleeping Beauty a year early.my chicken is infected wrote:So they're going to release a 20th Anniversary Edition...two months AFTER the anniversary year ends?Great planning Disney.
Next year's 70th Anniversary of Pinocchio (PE) will be released a year too early as well. Disney has a habit of doing this.
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I'm just throwing this out there, because it's an enigma to me:
Why is it some posters are saying that they're not willing to upgrade yet to Blu-Ray for Sleeping Beauty, and yet they seem royally pissed off because Oliver & Company isn't coming to Blu-Ray day-and-date with its DVD? Seriously, this is a low-priority movie for Disney that they're re-releasing on DVD simply to have it seem "new" again to people who didn't buy it in the past 6 years. It's not an "event" release like the Platinums, so it won't get a day-and-date Blu-Ray. And it's not that big enough a deal for Disney to want a day-and-date Blu-Ray because they're trying to sell Blu-Ray to people with "event" titles that will look great in high-definition. I'm not saying Oliver & Company won't look good on Blu-Ray (it likely will with proper restoration, and those take time as Fflewduur said), but the general population will likely prefer to get Pinocchio on Blu-Ray before Oliver & Company. Unfortunately, this is an uneasy compromise for Disney fans (a shoddy re-release on DVD until Blu-Ray's market is big/stable enough for lower-priority titles from Disney).
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Why is it some posters are saying that they're not willing to upgrade yet to Blu-Ray for Sleeping Beauty, and yet they seem royally pissed off because Oliver & Company isn't coming to Blu-Ray day-and-date with its DVD? Seriously, this is a low-priority movie for Disney that they're re-releasing on DVD simply to have it seem "new" again to people who didn't buy it in the past 6 years. It's not an "event" release like the Platinums, so it won't get a day-and-date Blu-Ray. And it's not that big enough a deal for Disney to want a day-and-date Blu-Ray because they're trying to sell Blu-Ray to people with "event" titles that will look great in high-definition. I'm not saying Oliver & Company won't look good on Blu-Ray (it likely will with proper restoration, and those take time as Fflewduur said), but the general population will likely prefer to get Pinocchio on Blu-Ray before Oliver & Company. Unfortunately, this is an uneasy compromise for Disney fans (a shoddy re-release on DVD until Blu-Ray's market is big/stable enough for lower-priority titles from Disney).
So true, and it's also true of other companies as well. Early DVD versions of An American in Paris and Blade Runner look less-than-mediocre compared to their new releases. I'd rather wait for Disney to get a restoration done right than have them put it out there, just so it's out there for the convenience of Disney fans who haven't yet upgraded to Blu, but want titles out there so when they do, it's easy to acquire.Fflewduur wrote:If they rushed a bunch of titles out just to have content available on the format, it'd be like the early days of Disney DVD all over again. Ultimately I'd much rather they get it done right than get it done quickly.
So true again.singerguy04 wrote:Now please, read this a few times and let is sink in. We will probably not see any other DAC's on blu-ray (besides the PE's of course) for another year. Just anticipate that, because personally I'm getting tired of reading how pissed off people are that this or that release isn't going to be on blu-ray. It's really naive of you all to sit here and critisize films or releases of films and not understand why this release is not on blu-ray.
So true, yet again!Ames wrote:If this really doesn't have the new documentary, then this first sentence of yours is sad- if they had planned the release so long ago, you'd think that they'd have time to whip something up for the bonus features!
Heck, they don't really put that much effort in PEs anymore either, when you compare the last few titles to the first few. But that's apples and oranges as Disney had different views on DVD then.Ames wrote:It just makes me sad that Disney doesn't seem to care- they just don't put the effort in. They could put something new on the disc without too much trouble, I'm sure. I'm glad that they put in the effort for SB, I am, but what about their non-PE movies? *sigh*
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Sleeping Beauty's makes a little more sense, as we're only a few months away from the 50th Anniversary year. (Whereas Pinocchio's PE will be more than half a year away, so that makes zero sense.)Simba3 wrote:That's nothing new for Disney: Lady and the Tramp (PE), Sleeping Beauty (PE) were both released as 50th Anniversary Editions. Lady and the Tramp a year late, and Sleeping Beauty a year early.
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Well I think it's safe to say that we all agree on one undenialble fact... That it's sad Disney doesn't seem to care about it's home releases anymore.
To me though, the SB PE is a step back in the right direction, and although this release isn't going to get the kind of attention it rightfull deserves we cannot deny that it's at least nice to see it get attention. Perhaps if this does sell well it will promt Disney to reconsider how much content is included with the release the next time it comes around (that might come off as false hope though lol)
Also, about Pinocchio's PE and the whole 1 year early to the birthday party thing. This is further reason why Fantasia should've been coming out this march!!!!
To me though, the SB PE is a step back in the right direction, and although this release isn't going to get the kind of attention it rightfull deserves we cannot deny that it's at least nice to see it get attention. Perhaps if this does sell well it will promt Disney to reconsider how much content is included with the release the next time it comes around (that might come off as false hope though lol)
Also, about Pinocchio's PE and the whole 1 year early to the birthday party thing. This is further reason why Fantasia should've been coming out this march!!!!

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That's the thing, though- by not putting much effort into it, certain people who would've bought this title will not, so it probably won't sell as well as it could sell had Disney put a little more effort into the release. And since some people will buy it and it'll sell somewhat well, Disney will think that people will buy these rereleases regardless of what kind of effort was put into them. It's a vicious circle.singerguy04 wrote: Perhaps if this does sell well it will promt Disney to reconsider how much content is included with the release the next time it comes around (that might come off as false hope though lol)

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UD has posted the Press Release here.
Okay, according to this, the "Making of Oliver & Company" fluff piece remains, along with the two bonus shorts and the 90-second "History of Disney Animals" thing. However, we lose the "scrapbook" art gallery, the "publicity materials" section containing three trailers, and the fun film facts text screens. So basically, we lose everything of real substance.
That "Return of a Classic" featurette had better be frikkin' amazing to make up for the losses. And it has potential too, since I can't think of an actual featurette that we've gotten about a film's re-release before. Should be interesting if it's done right.
Hopefully the art gallery, the fun facts, and the trailers are included but just not mentioned on the press release. Disney's done it before, so I'll keep hope. I'd actually say we have a pretty good chance of all of those being ported over, even the trailers. I mean, most of the trailers included on the old DVD were for the re-release, so not including them as companion features to the new "re-release" featurette would just be stupid.
Right?
RIGHT, DISNEY?!
Okay, according to this, the "Making of Oliver & Company" fluff piece remains, along with the two bonus shorts and the 90-second "History of Disney Animals" thing. However, we lose the "scrapbook" art gallery, the "publicity materials" section containing three trailers, and the fun film facts text screens. So basically, we lose everything of real substance.

That "Return of a Classic" featurette had better be frikkin' amazing to make up for the losses. And it has potential too, since I can't think of an actual featurette that we've gotten about a film's re-release before. Should be interesting if it's done right.
Hopefully the art gallery, the fun facts, and the trailers are included but just not mentioned on the press release. Disney's done it before, so I'll keep hope. I'd actually say we have a pretty good chance of all of those being ported over, even the trailers. I mean, most of the trailers included on the old DVD were for the re-release, so not including them as companion features to the new "re-release" featurette would just be stupid.
Right?
RIGHT, DISNEY?!
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Return of a Classic is on the UK DVD unless I'm very much mistaken.
[goes to peruse the DVD Compare sites...]
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=1494
Ah, there it is. a whopping 1 min 56 seconds of second-hand goodness.
[goes to peruse the DVD Compare sites...]
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=1494
Ah, there it is. a whopping 1 min 56 seconds of second-hand goodness.
Most of my Blu-ray collection some of my UK discs aren't on their database