quilly wrote:Are there Disney princess costume available in men sizes?
The large bulky theme park costume for the Queen of Hearts has almost always been worn by men. And given that "Queen" outranks "Princess", I'd say that counts.
Plus, there's the infamous "Cinderfella" that rides out during Spectromagic (a guy who was so feminine looking that in the glow of a nighttime parade, with just the right amount of make-up, just the right amount of light, and the perfect Cindy dress...he looked close enough to be considered a her.)
And in ye olden days of Disneyland, a bowlegged man who played Donald Duck once had to wear the Minnie Mouse costume (his story is in Mouse Tales).
quilly wrote:Is there a market for that?
Two of them. The drag queen market and the "women who aren't as skinny as broomsticks but still have a good full figure" market.
Albert
WIST #60:
AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?
WIST #61:
TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?
Kendris wrote:And what does my sexual preference have to do with anything? Nothing.
It has everything to do with it, because if you are not a gay man you cannot say what gay men would like or should like, and you could not say what you already said in here.
Kendris wrote:And what does my sexual preference have to do with anything? Nothing.
It has everything to do with it, because if you are not a gay man you cannot say what gay men would like or should like, and you could not say what you already said in here.
Reminds me of an exchange from Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home...
BONES
How 'bout covering a little philosophical ground? Life, Death, Life... Things of that nature?
SPOCK
I did not have time on Vulcan to review the Philosophical disciplines.
BONES
Spock, it's me, Bones! I mean our experience was unique. You really have gone where no man has gone before. Can't you tell me what it felt like?
SPOCK It would be impossible to discuss the subject without a common frame of reference.
BONES You're joking...!
SPOCK
A joke is a story with a humorous climax.
BONES You mean I have to die to discuss your insights on death?
Albert
WIST #60:
AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?
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TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?
Kendris wrote:And what does my sexual preference have to do with anything? Nothing.
It has everything to do with it, because if you are not a gay man you cannot say what gay men would like or should like, and you could not say what you already said in here.
I'm not even going to repeat myself...so this discussion is OVER.
I just remembered some stuff that has to do with this topic.
There is this book called "Queens in the Kingdom" that asked why so many gay people love the Disney Parks, and Disney in general. A lot of gay people work at the parks, especially with the parades.
Well, one thing it mentioned was how Disney has the fantasy and escapism aspect, mentioning how gays go to clubs to get lost in the bright, colorful, flashy lights and the music. Well, I have to read the book again to get it exactly right. But anyway, Disney princesses and their worlds are among the most fantasy based of Disney's. And as for the characters, it also mentioned how often Disney characters are outcast or different from everyone, but then rise up.
This is different from just characters who have people be mean to them or suppress them. The characters are also different from everyone else. Wooden Pinocchip, big-eared Dumbo, and Cinderella actually wants to fit in with her stepfamily, and I suppose it's arguable but hers is a case where her beauty and charm is unpopular among the ugly inside and out stepfamily. I forget all the characters they mentioned, but Ariel is also a big one because she is in love with someone she is told she shouldn't be in love with, and is also different from all the other merfolk. With Cinderella she is kind of told she can't love the prince, too. It's about being told not to love a certain person because of you are, because you're half fish and they aren't, because your lowly and they aren't, or because you're a boy and they are. Ariel tries to say humans are capable of love and being loved the same as any merperson, just like a gay person might try to convince a conservative that they can love a man and a man can love them the same way they could love a woman or a woman could love them.
I love all the princesses, but my favorite is Cinderella! However, the one I would want to BE is Aurora because I love her hair and she gets Phillip who I think is the HOTTEST prince!
My boyfriend likes the parks but is not into Disney at all. So again it proves gay people can't be generalized. And I thought the explanations of why some gay men are drawn to the princesses rather than the princes was spot on!! I can't understand why those 2 straight chicks couldn't GET IT!
Jon
ichabod wrote:Forgive me if this seems a stupid question, but why are the princesses so popular with gay forum members here? I mean surely logic would dictate it would be the princes that would grab their attention more?
Personally, I love both the Disney princes (as you can see in my signature) and Phillip is my favorite character and was my first crush as a young boy. I can't speak for everyone here (especially since I've only come out not that long ago), but I think it mainly has to do with the fact that many other gay men identify themselves with a lot of the princesses in the stories. Especially in Little Mermaid, where Ariel longs to be a part of a different world she finds fascinating, which her father suppresses. Many gay people feel that they're different and are longing to find their place like Ariel, despite parents or other elder's objections. Hence why I think that Ariel and the Little Mermaid tends to have the biggest following, since its storyline hits close to home for a lot of gay people. I know that feeling myself when I tried to suppress and hide being gay for so many years, being told by others that they thought it was wrong.
That, and the fact that the princess films are just beautifully animated films with very romantic themes and works of beautiful animation. I know I'm a very hopeless romantic person myself, hence why I love the earlier princess films, especially ones like Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty, and interested in just fairy tales in general. They simply have some connection that makes me love those kind of stories.
I think that's a very good description PrincePhillipFan and beeing gay myself I totally agree with you!
Hm, my two favorites has always been Belle and Aurora. Belle because she is smart and beautiful, Aurora because of her design and because of her movie. I have never liked Snow White, she is annoying and seems so stupid (but that has much to do with the fact that her movie were made in 1937 I think). I don't know if there really is a princess that is more popular than the other among gay-people.
I love the Disney princes! I remember having crushes on Phillip, Eric, Adam, Aladdin etc. To bad that they get no more attention from Disney than they do. Merchandise from the classical fairytale-movies evolves around the "Disney Princess" brand and is only marketed towards girls. A shame really.