Most over-rated Disney movie

bradhig · Post by **bradhig** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:32 am

The Little Mermaid - Disney changed the ending and people go on and on about how great the movie is.

LindaMYoung · Post by **LindaMYoung** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:03 am

My personal overrated (YMMV!):

PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN...why? Some neato special effects at the end, but just another pirate movie. Johnny Depp--what's the attraction? Every time I see his pic as Willie Wonka I just go "ewwww."

TOY STORY...I heard so much about this then saw it at a friend's house one Christmas. The little boy who liked to "torture" the toys really creeped me out to the point where I couldn't enjoy the movie.

NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS...not a Halloween fan and didn't like the animation, or the concept.

Understand what several people have said about LION KING, particularly Simba's character. My favorite character in LK has always been Nala.

Linda

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:28 am

2099net wrote:Sleeping Beauty is the most overrated Disney film ever, because it has a story that could be written on the back of a postage stamp. It always makes me laugh when people insist "The Story Is All Important" when critisising Disney's (then) decision to go CGI. Sleeping Beauty shows 100% that the story is not important at all.

I disagree about Sleeping Beauty being overrated, and I don't mean that in the sense of, "It's one of my favorite Disney movies and deserves the praise it gets!" (even though it IS one of my favorites). No, I disagree because I honestly don't think Sleeping Beauty is popular enough to be overrated. Sure, it's well known enough by die-hard Disney fans, but the general public has no clue about it. It's really the black sheep of the princess movies, I think in terms of recognition. Go into a Disney Store, pick up a piece of Aurora merchandise, and ask customers who that is. I guarantee you 80% of them will say Sleeping Beauty rather than Aurora, 10% will know to call her Aurora, 9% will have no clue whatsoever, and an even sadder 1% will think she's Cinderella (yes, I've seen this happen). A huge chunk of my family has seen Snow White and Cinderella dozens of times. Only a couple of them have seen Sleeping Beauty even once. I think the fact that the film is more artsy and sophisticated than the other two (let's face it: kids identify better with the dwarves and mice than with the fairies) has caused to be the least mainstream of the princess films.

jeremy88 · Post by **jeremy88** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:58 pm

bradhig wrote:The Little Mermaid - Disney changed the ending and people go on and on about how great the movie is.

I do agree that its overrated, but Disney does change a lot of stories. Even though some of the storys are changed I still like them because I watch them for the movies story and not pay attention to how the original or true story goes. I do however still like the original story of The Little Mermaid, but I cant imagine Ariel being put into a situation where she has to kill Prince Eric and then jump off a ship and commit suicide because she couldnt kill him, yeah that would be odd and very sad.

Disney-Fan · Post by **Disney-Fan** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:03 am

bradhig wrote:The Little Mermaid - Disney changed the ending and people go on and on about how great the movie is.

Um, they changed half of the Hunchback's original story, Hercules hardly even resembles it's predecessor from the myth, as does Chicken Little, Snow White, Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty got extremely toned down, Pocahontas got treated with a different ending... See where I'm going with this?

Simba3 · Post by **Simba3** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:08 am

Disney-Fan wrote:
bradhig wrote:The Little Mermaid - Disney changed the ending and people go on and on about how great the movie is.
Um, they changed half of the Hunchback's original story, Hercules hardly even resembles it's predecessor from the myth, as does Chicken Little, Snow White, Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty got extremely toned down, Pocahontas got treated with a different ending... See where I'm going with this?

Exactly what I was thinking. Many of the Disney movies are adapted from existing stories... they don't neccessarily follow them completely.

RachelSmachel · Post by **RachelSmachel** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:00 pm

Simba3 wrote:
Disney-Fan wrote: Um, they changed half of the Hunchback's original story, Hercules hardly even resembles it's predecessor from the myth, as does Chicken Little, Snow White, Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty got extremely toned down, Pocahontas got treated with a different ending... See where I'm going with this?
Exactly what I was thinking. Many of the Disney movies are adapted from existing stories... they don't neccessarily follow them completely.

Not to mention there are MANY things from those stories that you just can't put in a children's movie. Hunchback=Everyone dies in the end among others things, Hercules=There's so much stuff I'm not even going to start (Adultery, murder, Hera doing a lot of nasty things), Sleeping Beauty=The prince rapes her, she only awakens when one of her babies (born from the rape) sucks the needle out of her finger when it's searching to suckle and we all know the kind of stuff that was originally in Mermaid.

DisneyDVDFAN · Post by **DisneyDVDFAN** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:55 pm

Sleeping Beauty=The prince rapes her, she only awakens when one of her babies (born from the rape) sucks the needle out of her finger when it's searching to suckle

Whoo where is that story from

if you don't mind me asking asking if I sound naive I have never seen or heard of that version ...
thanks

numba1lostboy · Post by **numba1lostboy** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:59 pm

And this doesn't just pertain to the films based on fairy tales. In the original Peter Pan, the parents play a much bigger role in the story. And instead of a bomb, Hook tries to poison Peter...but Tink drinks it and nearly dies. Alice In Wonderland, if the film had stayed true to Lewis Carroll's book, would have played like drug trip. There is some looopy stuff in that book.

Also, there are historical Disney films that twist fact for the sake of story. In Pocahontas, Pocahontas and John never fell in love, they were just good friends. The Chinese legend of Mulan is different than the Disney film too.

DisneyFreak5282 · Post by **DisneyFreak5282** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:37 pm

I totally think the Pirates of the Carribbean films are overrated. Ugh.

RachelSmachel · Post by **RachelSmachel** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:54 pm

DisneyDVDFAN wrote:
Sleeping Beauty=The prince rapes her, she only awakens when one of her babies (born from the rape) sucks the needle out of her finger when it's searching to suckle
Whoo where is that story from if you don't mind me asking asking if I sound naive I have never seen or heard of that version ...
thanks

Here you go...

Caballero Girl · Post by **Caballero Girl** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:19 pm

Oh, geez...

I always feel guilty about participating in "most over-rated" threads, primarily because I don't want to hurt the feelings of the fans but, well, may as well get it over with...

The Lion King and (to a lesser degree) Cinderella. There, that wasn't so hard, was it?

I was flippin' crazy about the Lion King when it first came out, and there are still things which I admire about it today (the animation is excellent, as is most of the music and voice cast) but, I don't know, I just feel jaded when people rant and rave about it as though it was the only movie which Disney actually made in the 90s. If I go back again and watch it today, the story and characters just don't click with me like they used to.

As for Cinderella...it's complicated. It was one of those films which, as a kid, I was always happy to sit through but never really warmed to. In those days, I was always keeping my fingers crossed that Lucifer might finally catch those irksome mice, heartless me.

The prize for most over-exposed Disney feature of the moment, in my view, would go to the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. Sure, the characters are cute and loveable, but I'm a little tired of having them shoved down my throat every time I walk into a Disney Store...I guess I'm just showing my resentment as an avid collector of all things Donald Duck. It seems to me that there's a real paucity of new merchandise bearing his likeness right now. What's the big idea?

Chernabog_Rocks · Post by **Chernabog_Rocks** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:56 pm

Well, my sis thinks Toy Story is over-rated, and I think the Incredibles are over-rated, we also agree that Cinderella isn't far behind either.

Josh · Post by **Josh** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:13 pm

The most over-rated Disney Animated Classic I.M.O is BY FAR The Lion King, don't think I dislike it though, it's my fifth favourite Disney movie, it's just when I ask people at school what their childhood movie was, or what their favourite Disney movie was, about 90% of them say The Lion King...no joke!
Also, people say The Lion King was the peak of the third Disney 'Golden Era' because it made so much money at the box-office, but ticket stubs don't neccessarily make it the greatest movie of that era, I mean come on, Beauty And The Beast= First and Only Animated movie ever to be nominated for Best Movie at the Oscars!
I see BATB to be over-rated as well though (but only on U.D) this is probably because it won 2003's Greatest Disney movie poll. I would've thought Aladdin and TLM would've been higher, but thats just me being biased again as they are my 2 favourites.

Timon/Pumbaa fan · Post by **Timon/Pumbaa fan** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:07 am

I suppose just putting "Finding Nemo" here doesn't quite explain my hate for this demon of a movie.

But yeah, as Escapay has said for The Lion King, it'll no come to know surprise to him(or a lot of people here in fact), I loathe this film. After 1.5 years of internet ranting, I still can't find what's to like about this formulatic buddy film with a long running time, lame "heart moving scenes" that failed to connect and repetitive humor(sorry "Escapay"). It's a pretty picture, but for it's gigantic success, I'm at an immediate loss. Well, that's my dislike for FN in a nutshell.

In fact, I think all 7 Pixar films are overrated, as they all share the same formula and repeat the same stuff over and over again. And to think Disney is unoriginal these days by the critics.

Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, The Nightmare Before Christmas and Tarzan overrated?

BLASPHEMY!

Disney-Fan · Post by **Disney-Fan** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:20 am

Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, The Nightmare Before Christmas and Tarzan overrated?

BLASPHEMY!

I know man, it's really painful to hear. There, there... I must always hold back and remember that these are just a bunch of opinions.

Dottie · Post by **Dottie** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:05 pm

Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:I suppose just putting "Finding Nemo" here doesn't quite explain my hate for this demon of a movie.

But yeah, as Escapay has said for The Lion King, it'll no come to know surprise to him(or a lot of people here in fact), I loathe this film. After 1.5 years of internet ranting, I still can't find what's to like about this formulatic buddy film with a long running time, lame "heart moving scenes" that failed to connect and repetitive humor(sorry "Escapay"). It's a pretty picture, but for it's gigantic success, I'm at an immediate loss. Well, that's my dislike for FN in a nutshell.

In fact, I think all 7 Pixar films are overrated, as they all share the same formula and repeat the same stuff over and over again. And to think Disney is unoriginal these days by the critics.

Absolutely right!! Toy Story is over-rated as well. Yeah, I know, it was the first fully computer animated feature film, but the story was absolutely lame and it wasn't really magical. Disney IMO always is something kind of magical, and it touches you in some way, but I never felt like that when watching a Pixar flick. It's all over-reated, that Pixar stuff.

TheNikki · Post by **TheNikki** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:11 pm

I'd have to go with The Lion King. I never really loved it like the other movies. I know it's regarded as Disney's best film, but to me it's just a re-telling of Bambi to some degree.

I appreciate it for music and the animation, but it pales in comparrison to other Disney movies if you ask me.

Rutt · Post by **Rutt** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:24 pm

I think no Disney movie is over-rated.. I love them all! I love the old ones like Snow White and Bambi and also the new ones. And I don't understand why people can say Bambi is "boring". Everyone has their own opinion that's true.. But I have mine as well and I just must disagree with the people who say the old Disney movies are weird or boring. I think no Disney movie is over-rated I love all of them in their own special way and every movie got the respect it deserved! I only think there are UNDER-rated movies XD.

Wonderlicious · Post by **Wonderlicious** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:31 pm

As being different rocks, I'm going to nominate a film which is simultaneously over and underrated...

The reasons for Chicken Little's crisis is simple. Some people just try and hate it as much as possible and become a hypocrite by not simply looking at obvious flaws and just winge out pointless drivel (aka saying that this film sucks for XYZ a reason then go liking a film that has some of the same qualities in there). And others go the opposite. They try and defend it and seem to become obsessive in their loyalty, just dubbing otherwise excellent films as bad ones, which becomes just as bad as the people who underrate it.

Actually, I think that you could say the same for most Disney films from 2000 to 2005.

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