Yea, I like the cover because now it matches my Platinum Edition of the original.
Anyway, The Big Cartoon Forum has more detailed explanations for the two bonus features we get on the DVD. I really like the idea of "Bibbidi Bobbidi Choose", it sounds so cool!
"Bibbidi Bobbidi Choose" - DVD Game: Grab The Fairy Godmother's wand, and make some magic of your own! Or put other Cinderella Characters in control!
"Cinderella's Ballroom" - (DVD ROM) - Dance to The Princess Jukebox, Choreograph your very own Ballroom! You can even use your very own photos to turn yourself into a Princess!
I'm actually really excited for this film to come out! It looks really interesting. The only other DTV sequel I can think of that put a different twist on an animated classic was "The Lion King 1 1/2". I can't wait for February! And, I like the cover art. One could argue that Lady Tremaine hasn't ever been the prettiest lady.
YAY! It's official now! And what a good, detailed press release, too! They revealed pretty much what they could with the plot (except no clues as to that purple horse...) without giving away too much, and they explained enough for the bonus features.
Also, did you notice they actually named the prince Prince Charming? I had read in numerous references that this was his official name, even though they didn't say it in the original movie.
It sounds like this movie will make Cinderella more of an active heroine, rescuing herself from her stepmother (but we don't know, since it was mentioned by Frank Nissen that the prince would have a bigger role than in the first film). Did anyone notice that the prince had a sword at his side in the trailer for Cinderella III: A Twist in Time? You could see it whenever he was with Cinderella in the white dress with a veil. I wonder if we'll get to see him using that sword?
But I don't understand how Anastasia is still a "jealous" stepsister when she was pretty happy with the baker in Cinderella II. Maybe they just mean she's still jealous when the stepmother goes back in time to before Anastasia met the baker.
"Bibbidi Bobbidi Choose" sounds like a great bonus feature! I wonder if we could give the wand to Lucifer, or Prince Charming, or the King, or the Grand Duke?!
That "Cinderella's Ballroom" thing sounded really expansive but pretty much like a combination of other bonus features that have been on princess-related DVDs. Oh well, at least this time it sounds like you can be a boy or a girl when you make yourself a "royal court member".
I had the same thought about anastasia- But Cinderella II is a sequil, and this is a midquil (not to be confused with a nightquil).
Still, I say- WHY ANASTASIA? Drizzella (sp?) seems to follow in mommydear's footsteps more than anastasia, and we know that Anastatisa turns out softer and nicer(?) at the end of Cinderella II- thank you Baker. Oh well-
I told my daughters about this, the oldest (and I) can't wait. The youngest doesnt want to see it- too scary, she said. This should be a fun ride through a well known classic.
My guess is that Tremaine feels Anastasia's in more desperate need of an intervention than Drizella is. Her thought process is probably to get Anastasia with Prince Charming, then take her time fixing Drizella up with a royal court member since Drizella's not in danger of falling in love with anyone soon.
One thing I'm worried about is that this story lends itself ripe to time paradoxes if not done carefully. If Tremaine goes back in time to make the slipper fit Anastasia, then she'll cancel her future self out because there would be no need for her to travel back in time. Also, wouldn't she run into her past self? How's she going to get past!Tremaine out of the room so that she (future!Tremaine) can manipulate events?
And how are Cinderella, Gus, and Jaq going to be aware of all this? I figured based on the trailer that Cindy would be sort of blindly defeating Tremaine, not realizing that time has been altered. Based on the plot synopsis, though, it seems like she's aware of the change and is trying to actively stop it. Time travel is a very risky business in storytelling. It only ever properly works if the original events we all know and love actually WERE the altered versions, and we just didn't know it (think Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban and Back to the Future Part II).
Disney Duster wrote:YAY! It's official now! And what a good, detailed press release, too! They revealed pretty much what they could with the plot (except no clues as to that purple horse...) without giving away too much, and they explained enough for the bonus features.
Also, did you notice they actually named the prince Prince Charming? I had read in numerous references that this was his official name, even though they didn't say it in the original movie.
It sounds like this movie will make Cinderella more of an active heroine, rescuing herself from her stepmother (but we don't know, since it was mentioned by Frank Nissen that the prince would have a bigger role than in the first film). Did anyone notice that the prince had a sword at his side in the trailer for Cinderella III: A Twist in Time? You could see it whenever he was with Cinderella in the white dress with a veil. I wonder if we'll get to see him using that sword?
But I don't understand how Anastasia is still a "jealous" stepsister when she was pretty happy with the baker in Cinderella II. Maybe they just mean she's still jealous when the stepmother goes back in time to before Anastasia met the baker.
"Bibbidi Bobbidi Choose" sounds like a great bonus feature! I wonder if we could give the wand to Lucifer, or Prince Charming, or the King, or the Grand Duke?!
That "Cinderella's Ballroom" thing sounded really expansive but pretty much like a combination of other bonus features that have been on princess-related DVDs. Oh well, at least this time it sounds like you can be a boy or a girl when you make yourself a "royal court member".
I'm even more excited now!
I think the purple horse is one of the palace gaurd's horse, from the scene in the original where Cinderella is chaced after the Grand Duke orders them to. (I always thought those guards looked like the headless horseman, ie red capes and black horses.......mabey its becuasethe two movies (Ichabod and Cinderella) they were released 4 months apart )
The thing about Anastaia doesn't make sense and I noticed the sword to, but I hope that if there is an end fight that it does not last only 30 seconds.
I really hope that we'll get to see more of Prince Charming in this movie. In both movies he got maybe 5 lines maximum, and I hope that they characterize him a little more to show us that he really does love Cinderella.
"Animation can create whatever the mind of man can concieve" - Walt Disney
Flanger-Hanger wrote:
I think the purple horse is one of the palace gaurd's horse, from the scene in the original where Cinderella is chaced after the Grand Duke orders them to. (I always thought those guards looked like the headless horseman, ie red capes and black horses.......mabey its becuasethe two movies (Ichabod and Cinderella) they were released 4 months apart )
Yea I thought the same thing when I saw those. Also Katrina in Ichabod and cinderella also look similar to each other.
Flanger-Hanger wrote:
I think the purple horse is one of the palace gaurd's horse, from the scene in the original where Cinderella is chaced after the Grand Duke orders them to. (I always thought those guards looked like the headless horseman, ie red capes and black horses.......mabey its becuasethe two movies (Ichabod and Cinderella) they were released 4 months apart )
Yea I thought the same thing when I saw those. Also Katrina in Ichabod and cinderella also look similar to each other.
And don't forget that the horsemen also smash the pumpkin after it changes from a coach. It's pretty obvious that some things were taken from Ichabod's story.
Disneykid, I think you could be right about Lady Tremaine making Anastasia the one to marry the prince because she doesn't want her being with the baker. Good thinking! And as for her going back in time, I don't really care if paradoxes happen, I can fathom actually changing things in the past. She may not even meet her past self because you could think of time and everything moving around her instead of her moving through time (in other words she herself doesn't change but everything else does). It's a magic wand, not a scientific time machine.
Anyway, in order for us to see Cinderella not marrying the prince, of course things would have to happen differently than before. It can't be like Hermione's time turner where we saw the event she wanted to change in it's changed form the first time we saw it. If they did it that way, and what we saw in the original movie happened in that same way when Lady Tremaine went tried to change it...nothing would change and there wouldn't be this sequel! Hope you get what I mean.
Disney Duster wrote:It's pretty obvious that some things were taken from Ichabod's story.
It's true Cinderella was modelled on me!
Disney Duster wrote:If they did it that way, and what we saw in the original movie happened in that same way when Lady Tremaine went tried to change it...nothing would change and there wouldn't be this sequel! Hope you get what I mean.
So what you're saying is that Cinderella III will actually make the sequel Cinderella III non-existent.
Therefore we shouldn't worry about whether Cinderella III will be bad or not, because if it is it never happened anyway!
Everyone is talking about the whole Anastasia and baker relationship. Maybe Disney is looking the other way in shame and pretending they never made "Cinderella 2." lol. I probably would. Remember how they plugged "Tarzan and Jane" as a sequel to "Tarzan"? Then a few years later they were like "Here's the sequel you've been waiting for... no, we didn't already do this." To me, "Cinderella 2" always felt more like a TV show compilation in the spirit of "Tarzan and Jane" and "Atlantis: Milo's Return." Although, if they were pretending it didn't exist, I guess they would drop the 3 and just call it "Cinderella: A Twist in Time." So who knows. Maybe the creaters were so gungho to make this film that they didn't use the last sequel as a reference. I find it odd that as soon as "Lady and the Tramp" was out on DVD, Disney was hyping up a re-release of the sequel. I wonder why we haven't heard anything about a re-release of "Cinderella 2" before the third comes out. Maybe they didn't want parents to be dissapointed in it and not buy the third for their kids? "Beauty and the Beast," "Aladdin," and "The Lion King" had their sequels re-released and TLK got a new one (it's so funny in my opinion) all within a year of the originals Platinum treatment. Maybe TLM2 will get a re-release before the third.
I just watch legend of Sleepy Hollow again and I notice two interesting things that could of influence Beauty and the Beast. Other than Brom Bones as a role model for Gaston, there were two other intersting things that could of influence BatB. First is that when Ichabod Crane was walking through town and twons people were signing and noticing him is just like when Bell was through twon with similar position.
The other one surprise me too. during the song Brom Bones sings about the headless horseman, if you notice, they did a shot of a old greyskin man in a tall wooden chair. He look exactly like asylum dud that Gaston hires. I was like whoa. Ichabod is now a role model! lol.
I noticed those things too, Super Aurora, when I coincidentally watched both films back to back about a year ago. Ichabod strolls through the marketplace with his nose "stuck in a book" exactly like Belle. I didn't really notice the similarities between Brom Bones and Gaston because they aren't so much there stylistically, but personality wise they are very similar. Although, Brom Bones is a sugar coated version of Gaston. And the caretaker in Beauty and the Beast looks alot like the old man in The Legend of Sleepy Hallow. They both take place in similar time periods, but on different continents. I wonder if Don Hahn used The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad as some form of inspiration for many vignettes in Beauty and the Beast because these similarites can't be pure coincidence.
goofystitch wrote: They both take place in similar time periods, but on different continents. I wonder if Don Hahn used The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad as some form of inspiration for many vignettes in Beauty and the Beast because these similarites can't be pure coincidence.
Actually different time eras, though not too far apart. Sleepy Hollow takes place some time after Revolutionary war, where BatB takes place some time in the early to mid 1700's. An yes I do believe they got reference from sleepy hollow. Same with Cinderella. With Brom Bones, Andrea Deja use Bones as an influence for Gaston.
Luke has posted revised cover art on the front page. I think it's a big improvement. Cinderella and Tremaine don't seem nearly as squashed together, the Prince is given an action pose (which confirms what the filmmakers said about him actually doing something in this), and the dark red background makes it appropriately more sinister. Since the original had a blue cover and this has red, I'm assuming the inevitable re-release of Dreams Come True will be predominately green (for puking...how convenient.)
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Remember how they plugged "Tarzan and Jane" as a sequel to "Tarzan"? Then a few years later they were like "Here's the sequel you've been waiting for... no, we didn't already do this." To me, "Cinderella 2" always felt more like a TV show compilation in the spirit of "Tarzan and Jane" and "Atlantis: Milo's Return." Although, if they were pretending it didn't exist, I guess they would drop the 3 and just call it "Cinderella: A Twist in Time." So who knows. Maybe the creaters were so gungho to make this film that they didn't use the last sequel as a reference. I find it odd that as soon as "Lady and the Tramp" was out on DVD, Disney was hyping up a re-release of the sequel. I wonder why we haven't heard anything about a re-release of "Cinderella 2" before the third comes out. Maybe they didn't want parents to be dissapointed in it and not buy the third for their kids? "Beauty and the Beast," "Aladdin," and "The Lion King" had their sequels re-released and TLK got a new one (it's so funny in my opinion) all within a year of the originals Platinum treatment. Maybe TLM2 will get a re-release before the third.
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