Princess Mononoke

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Not counting Princess Mononoke, I think the only title that was a single disc in the Disney/Studio Ghibli collection was My Neighbors the Yamadas. All the others were 2-discs, but usually the second disc had the entire movie in storyboards, and a few other extras.
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Yeah Kiki is a dual disc set. Was this released as apart of the wave of studio ghibli films? It sucks because once they released that wave of Studio Ghibli films recently they suddenly became really hard to find. I only bought My neighbor Totoro and I cant find any of the others anywhere! So next time im going to make sure i get them lol.

So I finally ordered Princess Mononoke...hope its a good one! lol
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I loved PM, ive been borrowing it from my boyfriend for like a year now. I dont really plan to give it back. :) But I really wish they would put out a d disc set because this bare bones dvd is sort of a drag.
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Princess Mononoke: 2/5

I'll start with the obvious: this film has some graphic violence and injuries in it. Some people like that and think that it shows animation can be grown-up. However, I was disgusted by it. I don't want to see that kind of stuff in live-action or animation. Other problems I had were a blatant, overly simplistic environmental message and characters that add nothing to the main story, such as the apes and little tree spirits.

I did enjoy the main character, San, the elk, wolves, and the leader of the iron town. The movie does a number of things right artistically and technically, but it's just not a movie that works for me. I think Nausicaa is a much better movie that has the same basic message.
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BrandonH wrote:Princess Mononoke: 2/5

I'll start with the obvious: this film has some graphic violence and injuries in it. Some people like that and think that it shows animation can be grown-up. However, I was disgusted by it. I don't want to see that kind of stuff in live-action or animation. Other problems I had were a blatant, overly simplistic environmental message and characters that add nothing to the main story, such as the apes and little tree spirits.

I did enjoy the main character, San, the elk, wolves, and the leader of the iron town. The movie does a number of things right artistically and technically, but it's just not a movie that works for me. I think Nausicaa is a much better movie that has the same basic message.
The Apes showed how the animal gods were dealing with it. While the boars went for all out war and the wolves wanted an assassination, the apes were a "if you can't beat them, join them". They thought if they ate the flesh of man, they would gain the man's powers and thus, be able to destroy man.

The kodomas were an extension of the spirit of the forest. Spirits who guided Ashitaka and San. Ashitaka never would have survived if they had not guided him, so yes, they were important.

Graphic violence is a matter of opinion. I didn't find it to be done just to show animation can be for adults. The director is so far beyond trying to prove something like that. Akira and other anime already have. It was more to show, how the violence and war brought nothing but more violence and war. Yes, its an environmental picture...so is Spirited Away. But I didn't think it was beating us over the head. Essentially, there really wasn't a bad guy. Lady Eboshi did what she did to help her people. She was one of the few people in the world, willing to help lepers. She gave jobs to woman. Important jobs. In all respects, she was a good woman who was on the right path, but needed some guidance in how the forest around them has its place too in the world. I liked that, admired that part of the story. Its not "They are the good guys and they are the bad guys".
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BrandonH wrote:Princess Mononoke: 2/5

I'll start with the obvious: this film has some graphic violence and injuries in it. Some people like that and think that it shows animation can be grown-up. However, I was disgusted by it. I don't want to see that kind of stuff in live-action or animation. Other problems I had were a blatant, overly simplistic environmental message and characters that add nothing to the main story, such as the apes and little tree spirits.
Graphic violence, really? This would barely be PG and you can honestly see more violence in one episode of Family Guy. I doubt Miyazaki would even put it in there just for violence sake, as he seems to really think everything put on screen through, and there is most likely a reason for it being there. As for the environmental message, Miyazaki tends to have one of those in all his movies, and the apes and tree spirits had a purpose, as Siren stated.

Personally, I find this film to be his best and Nausicaä, your preference, to be his worst (although its not for it's overly simplified environmental message). To me, Miyazaki's films got better as he went along (except Ponyo).
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jpanimation wrote: Personally, I find this film to be his best [...] To me, Miyazaki's films got better as he went along (except Ponyo).
What about 'Spirited Away' and 'Howl's Moving Castle'?
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