Animated Film Looks Best in Blu-Ray

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Lion King in:

VHS = 486 x 213 pixels = 0.10 MP (MegaPixels/millions of pixels) (and pan/scanned :-P)
DVD (4:3 displayed) = 360 x 720 pixels = 0.26 MP
16:9 DVD = 480 x 720 = 0.35 MP
16:9 hd-dud = 720 x 1280 = 0.92 MP
16:9 Blu-ray = 1080 x 1920 = 2.07 MP

4:3 displayed DVD over VHS: 0.26/0.10 = 2.6x
16:9 DVD over VHS: 0.35/0.10 = 3.5x

average = 3x

Blu-ray over 4:3 displayed DVD: 2.07/0.26 = 8x
Blu-ray over16:9 DVD: 2.07/0.35 = 6x

average = 7x

btw those lion king 720p broadcast captures posted are not in Blu-ray resolution, more like in hd-dud resolution

So Blu-ray over that: 2.07/0.92 = 2.25x

Blu-ray *more* than TWICE as big and good as those lion king broadcast captures

Blu-ray goooooood.

Even the ones *I* posted, being circa 850 x 1500 pixels (1.3 MP), are *not* Blu-ray resolution: 2.07/1.3 = 1.6x

just make your DVDSoftwarePlayer blow up your 16:9 DVDs to 1080 x 1920 size (If you can) (if you can't, well just capture them at regular size and blow them up on Photoshop to the Blu-ray size, and see how sharp they will look and hold up at that enlargement. :-P ;)) Of course examine them in that actual size not shrinking them back to make them fit your screen. Unless you're Aaron and have the Apple 1200 x 1920 Cinema Display :)


Also remember that for the comparisons between DVD and HDTVbroadcast captures Barty used the best resizer posible for the DVD. That one probably takes a few seconds (or fractions of a second, an eternity for 60fps TV) to just do one pic, so it's doubtful that you'll get that quality *live from New York it's DVD playback!* the Photoshop or DVDSoftwarePlayer resizing is more tipical. And in any case, you could use THAT best resizer to resize Blu-rays 1080 x 1920 to 1800 x 3200 (5.76MP) and get those same results that the DVD captures got but in 1800 x 3200! :o :-P :twisted:


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DarthPrime wrote:...will people without a HDTV see any benefit to the new format?
On a regular interlaced 4:3 TV? not much, maybe a super clean sharp version without noise and compression artifacts, so you have to get a better TV or watch in a computer monitor to see more of the glory. (i have a 8 year old one than can do the 1.3 MP that the pics i posted do)

But let me tell you this. DVDs have 5.1 channels
VHS Hi Fi has 2 chanels
DVDs are progressive scan and 16:9

So

Did you wonder if you should NOT buy DVDs cus you would have to change your stereo to Home Theater Surround 5.1? or 6.1 ES? to hear any benefit to the new format? I mean DolbyDigital in 2.0 is just like VHS Hi Fi Stereo, (and not even as good as Laserdiscs 2.0 PCM soundtracks)
But everybody buys DVDs and eventiually new 5.1 (or 6.1) speakers and receivers!

Did you say hey my TV is interlaced nor 16:9 so i' m probably gonna be missing half of that DVD glory so i wont buy it?

So at one point everybody will buy true 16:9 HDTV 1080 x 1920 displays (In fact already one company just started offering 21:9 HDTV display technology to watch Cinemascope movies as God intended :-D )

The minute i can buy a 1080 x 1920 pixel Lion King or Beauty And The Beast or Aladdin or Little Mermaid disc with 6 times more resolution than DVD (and 50 times more audio resolution too), I'm there.
If i can only watch it with 2/3rds of its resolution or 8 channels folded to 6 in the time being, that's *still* FOUR times sharper than my DVD and THIRTY-EIGHT times less compressed than DolbyDigital :-P.
I'll get the full milage a little later. dontcha think? ;)



and i haven't talked much the Blu-ray's mpeg4 compression which gives you twice more the quality on average than mpeg2

So mmm Blu-ray = 6 x 2 = 12x better? ;)

Roger Rabbit wrote:......what you may not know (and this is just because I've never really talked to many here yet) but my eyesight is no better than 20/40 so sharpness isn't something I easily detect, even with glasses.

well you might not be seing much improvemt cus of your eyesight when seeing pictures as smallish sizes, but the good news is one thing Blu-ray will begat is bigger larger wider displays and at cheaper prices for all too, eventualy, and THAT will benefit you and any other UD member with eyesight not as it used to be cus you'll be able to see the images (even plain old DVD images!) on those displays much much larger and clearer and i'm sure you'll end up seeing more details and better quality :)
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Blue-Ray confuses me, whenever it becomes mainstream, does that mean all the movies out now will have to be RE-released on this new Blue-Ray?
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Post by Hogi Bear »

Studios won't have to rerelease anything on Blu-ray, but they will and mainly because it will increase their profit.

Oh and if anyone has a really powerful computer and a computer screen that can display 1080 x 1920, try a 1080p Quicktime trailer:

http://images.apple.com/movies/us/hd_ga ... _1080p.mov (148 Mb) System requirements Athlon XP 3000+, 512 GB RAM, at least, 256 MB Graphics Card and Quicktime 7 or Videolan (VLC). ~ Requirements found here

I tried playing this on my brother inlaws computer (he has basically the system stated, but with 128 Mb Graphics card and it still jittered, so the 256 MB card is necessary.

PS: Adding to deathie's note: Imagine a 90" (or bigger) screen and 1080p capable front end projector.

Oh and what happened to 5.01? :D
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