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Okay I liked Disney Infinity, collected all three platforms, and am sad to see it go. It was a great concept and a lot of what they accomplished over the years was truly wonderful and unlike anything Disney-related out there. There were a lot of fun Easter eggs in the toy box that covered Disney's entire catalogue, even things like Bedknobs and Broomsticks.

But I'm NOT surprised it fell under based on their tunnel vision for what could sell. They tried to sell a lot of characters there simply wasn't much demand for (Tron, Lone Ranger, etc), while ignoring obvious potential gains.

I understood why they wanted to primarily focus on current or ongoing franchises as they came out...yet they never created ONE "playset" for a new WDAS film when they're more popular than they've been in decades? Only one or two individual figures for each. Ridiculous considering how much of a cash cow Frozen was, how perfect the worlds of Wreck-It Ralph, Big Hero 6, and Zootopia were for more content than just a couple of figures.

Only having two female characters in their MASSIVE lineup of Marvel superheroes really annoyed me as well, especially considering some of the B or C-list male characters they included.

I would have liked to have seen what was in store for the future because the reveals were one of the most fun parts of this, but I'll also be saving some money now so I guess I should be happy :lol:
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I just counted and they released 28 figures for Marvel superheroes. Only 2 were women :|

Things like that make me think they got what they deserved.
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Lady Cluck wrote:I just counted and they released 28 figures for Marvel superheroes. Only 2 were women :|

Things like that make me think they got what they deserved.
If memory serves me right, those two women were Black Widow and Gamora, yes? Keep in mind that had Disney Infinity not gone under now and kept going, sooner or later figures for The Wasp, Mantis and Captain Marvel/Ms. Marvel probably would have been produced to support those MCU films. Outside of those characters, who else would you have liked to see?

Personally, I just wanted to see more classic Disney characters. However, if I had gotten into Marvel, it would have been nice to see Scarlet Witch. I don't care about Maria Hill. What I really, really wanted to see was the Fantastic Four and the X-Men, which would have included The Invisible Girl, Storm, Rouge, and Jean Grey at least, but I know that was never going to happen due to corporate politics. She-Hulk could have been fun, but they have yet to introduce her character into the films, so there you go!
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Lady Cluck wrote:I just counted and they released 28 figures for Marvel superheroes. Only 2 were women :|

Things like that make me think they got what they deserved.
If memory serves me right, those two women were Black Widow and Gamora, yes? Keep in mind that had Disney Infinity not gone under now and kept going, sooner or later figures for The Wasp, Mantis and Captain Marvel/Ms. Marvel probably would have been produced to support those MCU films. Outside of those characters, who else would you have liked to see?

Personally, I just wanted to see more classic Disney characters. However, if I had gotten into Marvel, it would have been nice to see Scarlet Witch. I don't care about Maria Hill. What I really, really wanted to see was the Fantastic Four and the X-Men, which would have included The Invisible Girl, Storm, Rouge, and Jean Grey at least, but I know that was never going to happen due to corporate politics. She-Hulk could have been fun, but they have yet to introduce her character into the films, so there you go!
Yes, just Black Widow and Gamora.

Of the others you mentioned, I was definitely looking forward to Wasp and Captain Marvel. It made sense to wait for their films to be released, except their films aren't being released for 2-3 years from now so it would have been nice to have them available for the big Marvel Battlegrounds release, which is essentially just a fighting game playset like Super Smash Brothers. They included a few male characters that aren't a part of Disney's Marvel cinematic universe and may never be.

Captain Marvel, Wasp, Lady Sif, and White Tiger already appeared as non-playable characters in the other DI Marvel game so it wouldn't have been hard at all to adapt them to playable characters/figures, which just made it more frustrating.

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Maybe not all four, but at least one would have been nice. Of course Disney still subscribes to the archaic "boys don't want anything to do with girls" model of thinking :roll:

And Scarlet Witch was a no brainer considering her presence in the films. Apparently there are some legal issues with her because the character is technically in the X-Men category as well, but I don't think they even bothered to try anyway.
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Personally, I just wanted to see more classic Disney characters.
Yeah, the lack of classic Disney characters is the major reason I didn’t even bother giving them a chance. Maybe I’d have been into this if I was a Pixar or Marvel fan.
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What's worse is they promised Peter Pan months ago, but now they say they've canceled him too because of this development :lol: :roll: I don't know if I would have gotten him since he's not my favorite anyway, but I know a lot of people were really excited for him, especially since he was announced after winning a fan vote to determine a future figure. And he was at least classic Disney.

I will say the Baloo figure that was just released is really cute. He's the final classic Disney character of the bunch. All that's left to be released is three Alice in Wonderland figures (from the live action film :roll:) and the Finding Dory playset with Dory and Nemo as figures (another :roll: ). Everything else has been canceled (apparently more Marvel content and something Moana related were in the works to be released this year as well, but that's obvious).

Anyway, the old figures are sure to be hitting the clearance bins soon so if anyone is interested you can watch out for that :lol:
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I need to get Mulan, I only collected the Disney princess/heroine figures but didnt play the game... sucks for those who did though...

I also read somewhere that actually the game was profitable, it just wasnt making the exaggerated kind of money Disney wants. Its scary to think that Disney's become so huge that they are willing to shut down enterprises just because they dont make the ginormous amounts they expect a company of their power to get(even things that are still profitable.) That kind of thinking is what led to the death of their hand drawn studio. :(
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How do you say "completely outrageous" in literally every language, including fictionalization ones? Because this is! :(
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unprincess wrote:Its scary to think that Disney's become so huge that they are willing to shut down enterprises just because they dont make the ginormous amounts they expect a company of their power to get(even things that are still profitable.) That kind of thinking is what led to the death of their hand drawn studio. :(
They aren't grateful for miniscule profits. Only huge huge yoooge profits are satisfying!

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milojthatch wrote:There lack of classic Disney kept me from ever really diving in. Characters like Pinocchio, Goofy, Simba, Cinderella, Robin Hood, Chip 'n' Dale, Dumbo, Pocahontas, Cruella, animated Maleficent, animated Alice, Mowgli, Oswald, Dopey, Pluto, etc., were very much needed. And what happened to Peter Pan? I'm not aware that he was ever released. Will he still be?
That's why this news really doesn't upset me too much, because I wasn't a fan of the direction Infinity was going with ,besides the Peter Pan figure who won't be released anymore anyway. Just glad I didn't bother trying to complete the collection by buying the rest of the Star Wars figures, Tron figures, and new Marvel playset.
Lady Cluck wrote:I just counted and they released 28 figures for Marvel superheroes. Only 2 were women :|

Things like that make me think they got what they deserved.
The lack of classic Disney characters and female characters for Marvel is what turned me off the game, so honestly I'm not too disappointed in this news.

I've heard legal reasons is why Scarlet Witch (and Quicksilver I imagine too) wasn't allowed in game, but she's playable in plenty of other games. And although there's little merchandise of her (like with all the other female superheroes such as Black Widow and Gamora), merchandise of her is allowed so I'm not sure I buy this is a legitimate excuse. There's really no reason to include Ant-Man, Vision, and Black Panther but not Scarlet Witch who was as important as the former two characters in Civil War. I would have loved the rest of the female heroines you listed as well like Sif, Captain Marvel, and Wasp. I'm sure if this series had lasted longer we would have gotten the latter two for their respective films, but after Scarlet Witch's exclusion, I can't even be sure about that.
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Personally, I just wanted to see more classic Disney characters. However, if I had gotten into Marvel, it would have been nice to see Scarlet Witch. I don't care about Maria Hill. What I really, really wanted to see was the Fantastic Four and the X-Men, which would have included The Invisible Girl, Storm, Rouge, and Jean Grey at least, but I know that was never going to happen due to corporate politics. She-Hulk could have been fun, but they have yet to introduce her character into the films, so there you go!
I would have loved the X-Men and the Fantastic Four as well as both are my two favorite superhero teams. I don't know about the FF, but there are fan-made designs of the X-Men in Infinity based on the 90s Animated Series lineup. The only non-movie characters included were the ones from Disney's Spider-Man TV show to go with his playset, hence the inclusion of Venom, Iron Fist, Nova, and Green Goblin. A pity, because I would have loved She-Hulk as well along with Daredevil, Elektra, and Spider-Woman.
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I understood why they wanted to primarily focus on current or ongoing franchises as they came out...yet they never created ONE "playset" for a new WDAS film when they're more popular than they've been in decades? Only one or two individual figures for each. Ridiculous considering how much of a cash cow Frozen was, how perfect the worlds of Wreck-It Ralph, Big Hero 6, and Zootopia were for more content than just a couple of figures.
I also couldn't help but notice that the Infinity brand seemed to favor Pixar when it came to playsets. I understand why Frozen didn't get a playset initially, but it seems ludicrous that there wasn't one for 2.0 or even 3.0 at the latest. And by that time, there should have been enough faith in the Disney animated movies to create playsets for Big Hero 6 and Zootopia, faith that apparently was firm enough for Pixar's movies, because Inside Out and Finding Dory both got playsets right off the bat.
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It seems almost every major Pixar movie got it's time in the spotlight (no surprise there!), and the amount of Marvel characters compared to the "classic Disney" characters was really a let down. I wish they would have focused more on classic Disney, releasing more playsets and more of the classic characters. So many princesses/heroines, princes/heroes, villains and sidekicks who would have sold better than many of the characters they did chose to include. Ariel, Hercules, Jafar, Pluto and what not.

Sad to see Disney shut down something that is quite popular and is making them money. Now they wil be looking for the next project that might be making them some more money, and when it does not they will cancel that project as well and move on to another attempt at making more and more money. It's never enough money for the Disney suits...
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The creators kept on heavily implying future plans for more female Marvel characters, particularly Scarlet Witch, and even more classic Disney content to a lesser extent.

I really think they were deliberately getting hopes up for nothing now since this was nothing but a cash grab. People get tired of being jerked around eventually.

The Marvel Battlegrounds playset actually turned out great in my opinion and I liked that they cut the price to $20 considering it onlycame with 1 figure (including Scarlet Witch was originally on the table, I imagine). It made me want a version of that fighting type of game with Disney characters, but oh well. It's dead and gone now.
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Of the others you mentioned, I was definitely looking forward to Wasp and Captain Marvel. It made sense to wait for their films to be released, except their films aren't being released for 2-3 years from now so it would have been nice to have them available for the big Marvel Battlegrounds release, which is essentially just a fighting game playset like Super Smash Brothers. They included a few male characters that aren't a part of Disney's Marvel cinematic universe and may never be.

Captain Marvel, Wasp, Lady Sif, and White Tiger already appeared as non-playable characters in the other DI Marvel game so it wouldn't have been hard at all to adapt them to playable characters/figures, which just made it more frustrating.

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Maybe not all four, but at least one would have been nice. Of course Disney still subscribes to the archaic "boys don't want anything to do with girls" model of thinking :roll:

And Scarlet Witch was a no brainer considering her presence in the films. Apparently there are some legal issues with her because the character is technically in the X-Men category as well, but I don't think they even bothered to try anyway.
OK, fair enough, Sif would have been fun. I personally wouldn't have cared about a White Tiger, but I'd follow that up by asking why do we need a Nova, Iron Fist or Black Suite Spider-Man? The first two male characters are so C-level and as for the Spider-Man variant, a power disc that could change his costume would be enough. In fact, didn't they make that anyway? Not adding The Wasp is just unforgivable.

unprincess wrote: I also read somewhere that actually the game was profitable, it just wasnt making the exaggerated kind of money Disney wants. Its scary to think that Disney's become so huge that they are willing to shut down enterprises just because they dont make the ginormous amounts they expect a company of their power to get(even things that are still profitable.) That kind of thinking is what led to the death of their hand drawn studio. :(
I'm sad to say we've played this game before. I have it on good authority from people who have or currently work at Disney that the mentality is, if the project doesn't make "The Force Awakens" or "Avengers" type money, Disney doesn't care about it. I get that Disney is a business and their top priority is to keep share holders happy (which means tons of money normally), but I feel like if they stay on this path, they are going to sooner or later fall and fall hard. I don't know what they are going to do when a bunch of Marvel and/or Star Wars movie start tanking hard at the box office and they've chased away all their original fans/customers.

If there is money to be made, even if it's just a few hundred thousand, do it. If you have enough things going making that much profit, that adds up fast. Instead, they want it all in one lump sum (like most of Hollywood these days) and I think that's foolish thinking. My other worry as a classic Disney fan is frankly, classic Disney is never going to make the same kind of money as the big tent poll films like Avengers or Star Wars do. Hence, and I feel this is already starting, I see a day when Disney no longer pushes "Disney" IP's, or at the very least, very few of them. Mickey might be safe mostly, but it seems clear to me the powers that be want to go in a different direction than the original fandom are going.
Prince Edward wrote:It seems almost every major Pixar movie got it's time in the spotlight (no surprise there!), and the amount of Marvel characters compared to the "classic Disney" characters was really a let down. I wish they would have focused more on classic Disney, releasing more playsets and more of the classic characters. So many princesses/heroines, princes/heroes, villains and sidekicks who would have sold better than many of the characters they did chose to include. Ariel, Hercules, Jafar, Pluto and what not.

Sad to see Disney shut down something that is quite popular and is making them money. Now they wil be looking for the next project that might be making them some more money, and when it does not they will cancel that project as well and move on to another attempt at making more and more money. It's never enough money for the Disney suits...
I think Infinity really made it clear that Disney sees PIXAR as the new face of Disney Animation. Even films like "Frozen" or "Zootopia" are really just PIXAR films without the PIXAR name on the poster. "Disney" as it existed in the 20th and maybe first few years of the 21st Century is dead. I don't feel Disney has much faith in a lot of their original brands, with some exceptions.
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OK, fair enough, Sif would have been fun. I personally wouldn't have cared about a White Tiger, but I'd follow that up by asking why do we need a Nova, Iron Fist or Black Suite Spider-Man? The first two male characters are so C-level and as for the Spider-Man variant, a power disc that could change his costume would be enough. In fact, didn't they make that anyway? Not adding The Wasp is just unforgivable.
Yeah, I don't care about White Tiger either, but she was an option at least. Apparently she's in the Spider-Man animated series that airs on Disney XD, but I've never seen it.
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I'm sad to say we've played this game before. I have it on good authority from people who have or currently work at Disney that the mentality is, if the project doesn't make "The Force Awakens" or "Avengers" type money, Disney doesn't care about it. I get that Disney is a business and their top priority is to keep share holders happy (which means tons of money normally), but I feel like if they stay on this path, they are going to sooner or later fall and fall hard. I don't know what they are going to do when a bunch of Marvel and/or Star Wars movie start tanking hard at the box office and they've chased away all their original fans/customers.
its for that reason I wish Disney had remained a smaller but still successful company like it was in the late 80's/90's, just focusing on animation, family live action films, the parks, Disney Channel and merchandise. Though with how things are these days, it would have probably been bought by a larger company eventually and who knows how that would have turned out. All I know is I enjoyed what Disney was in the 80's and 90's a whole lot more then what they've become now.
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unprincess wrote:
I'm sad to say we've played this game before. I have it on good authority from people who have or currently work at Disney that the mentality is, if the project doesn't make "The Force Awakens" or "Avengers" type money, Disney doesn't care about it. I get that Disney is a business and their top priority is to keep share holders happy (which means tons of money normally), but I feel like if they stay on this path, they are going to sooner or later fall and fall hard. I don't know what they are going to do when a bunch of Marvel and/or Star Wars movie start tanking hard at the box office and they've chased away all their original fans/customers.
its for that reason I wish Disney had remained a smaller but still successful company like it was in the late 80's/90's, just focusing on animation, family live action films, the parks, Disney Channel and merchandise. Though with how things are these days, it would have probably been bought by a larger company eventually and who knows how that would have turned out. All I know is I enjoyed what Disney was in the 80's and 90's a whole lot more then what they've become now.
Who says they still won't end up bought by another company one day? Still, I agree, the way they were in the 80's/90's was as big as they should have gotten IMO.
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Interesting information in this article, with some information on what was planned for the future and what forced the developers' hands in what characters were represented:

http://kotaku.com/sources-the-ambitious ... 1776370484


I knew no one cared enough about Yondu or the Star Wars Rebels as they came out :roll:

Disney just couldn't juggle all its children's needs in this instance and they miscalculated the demand.
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Interesting article, with some information on what was planned for the future and what forced the developers' hands in what characters were represented:

http://kotaku.com/sources-the-ambitious ... 1776370484

I knew no one cared enough about Yondu or the Star Wars Rebels as they came out :roll: Disney just couldn't juggle all its children's needs in this instance and they miscalculated the demand.

Apparently a Moana playset was in the works which would have been the first for a WDAS film. Of course the game gets canned before that's allowed to happen :lol:

But more Cars, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Pirates playsets when all three already existed? Just terrible decision making.
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Canceled Moana playset and Peter Pan, Spider-Gwen, Hera, Dr. Strange, and Goofy figures/concept art

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Not going to lie, seeing the concept art/figures for Peter Pan and Goofy hurts some. In my opinion, THOSE should have gone out instead of those horrid live action Alice figure that are just going to be collecting dust. What a waste.
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