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I think that they Will wait till september. Two bigs movies in the same month seems to be too much
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Someone uploaded the full version of Impossible Child:

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The melody is nice, but the song gets dragged down by Javier's performance. The man can't even talk-sing. :|
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Eeeek... that's pretty bad. The song isn't good in itself: feels like some parts are recycled score, other parts are just muddled.
Javier Bardem is a very good actor, but he seems uncomfortable both speaking and singing in English (something I notice often with Spaniards, not so much with other hispanic people), which really gets in the way here. And then... his anger seems too extreme. I feel like he wants to find Ariel to kill her, not cause he is worried! Hahaha.
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I'm still curious to see the scene in which it was intended, but the song itself is kinda limp. It feels like half a song. Like, it's missing a middle verse or something. Bardem's speak-singing(?) doesn't really even bother me. The whole thing just feels like a pitch for a song rather than a fully realized musical moment.
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Fifth weekend box office numbers.
Disney’s The Little Mermaid at 3,480 theaters made $1.7M, -5%, for a fourth week of $19.5M. Its running total is $261.5M.
Source: https://deadline.com/2023/06/box-office ... 235422274/
Disney’s The Little Mermaid is warbling its way to $500M global, coming off a $9.4M offshore weekend in 52 markets for a $229.1M overseas running cume, and thisclose to the half century mark worldwide with $499.3M through Sunday. The offshore hold this weekend was -41%. It was also the No. 1 movie in Japan for the third consecutive weekend and is the biggest movie of 2023 in Philippines.
Source: https://deadline.com/2023/06/elemental- ... 235424087/
Rounding off the top five was Disney’s “The Little Mermaid,” which earned £1.08 million in its fifth weekend for a total of £23.7 million.
Source: https://variety.com/2023/film/box-offic ... 235655461/
Disney has enjoyed great success raiding its animation vault to turn the likes of “Beauty and the Beast” and “The Lion King” into glossy live-action remakes. And, on paper, “The Little Mermaid” with its story of young love and killer soundtrack had all the ingredients of another box office magic act. So what went wrong? The film has floundered at the foreign box office, earning less than 50% of its global haul in overseas territories. In comparison, the 2019 remake of “Aladdin,” which had a similar domestic debut to “The Little Mermaid,” picked up 66% of its more than $1 billion global gross from international markets. Without that support, Ariel and company have found themselves adrift.

Opening weekend: $95 million
Current global gross: $503 million
Source: https://variety.com/2023/film/news/box- ... 235654665/
The remake of “The Little Mermaid” has been a domestic success with $270 million but an overseas bust compared to past Disney remakes, just getting past $500 million worldwide after a month in theaters and still straining to reach the break-even point theatrically against its reported $250 million budget before marketing costs.
Source: https://www.thewrap.com/indiana-jones-d ... e-preview/
Elsewhere, Disney’s live-action The Little Mermaid is on the brink of crossing the $500 million threshold globally.
Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie ... 235523333/
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So basically, ~$100M WW per weekend for the last 5 weekends. Not bad.
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Haha yes Marce82, you're funny and I agree, it's like he wanted to find her to strangle her!

I do like how Lin made "impossible" change meanings from "difficult child" to "I can't go on", that was nice.
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I’ve never seen this noticed or posted anywhere but did anyone notice that Ursula never once tells Ariel her form of payment is her voice and she wouldn’t be able to speak on land?

She gives her the little speech about not having her mermaid gifts, including her siren song which they never really explained, but not once until Ursula says “It won’t cost much, just your voice” during Poor Unfortunate Souls, does she even reference her paying her with her voice. Ariel is never told she won’t be able to speak on land in the movie!

I know they cut the middle verse, and thus probably where she was told. We know it was filmed because the first audience who was shown the number have said that portion was in there during it. But to cut the dialogue stating the terms of the deal? The crux of the entire film? That’s so sloppy and embarrassing. I knew something was wrong as I watched, but I thought I misremembered. So I went back through clips online, and sure enough, Ariel is never told she is paying Ursula with her voice and that she won’t be able to speak on land.
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nomad2010 wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:35 am I’ve never seen this noticed or posted anywhere but did anyone notice that Ursula never once tells Ariel her form of payment is her voice and she wouldn’t be able to speak on land?

She gives her the little speech about not having her mermaid gifts, including her siren song which they never really explained, but not once until Ursula says “It won’t cost much, just your voice” during Poor Unfortunate Souls, does she even reference her paying her with her voice. Ariel is never told she won’t be able to speak on land in the movie!

I know they cut the middle verse, and thus probably where she was told. We know it was filmed because the first audience who was shown the number have said that portion was in there during it. But to cut the dialogue stating the terms of the deal? The crux of the entire film? That’s so sloppy and embarrassing. I knew something was wrong as I watched, but I thought I misremembered. So I went back through clips online, and sure enough, Ariel is never told she is paying Ursula with her voice and that she won’t be able to speak on land.
Well, it’s more than clearly implied especially with the example you just said With her “siren voice”; she’s a mermaid, so she definitely knows what Ursula means by that, and social the audience, it’s also one of those things that is shown and subtly figured out, as after all film is SHOW don’t TELL, right? Especially in a more realistic setting, it’s not that difficult even for someone who hasn’t seen the original to figure it out
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Nomad2010, I am shocked to realize you are right! She says she won't have her siren song, but that doesn't mean she can't speak at all!
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Disney Duster wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:38 pm Nomad2010, I am shocked to realize you are right! She says she won't have her siren song, but that doesn't mean she can't speak at all!
Well, that’s very much in character for Ursula to not directly state that she can’t speak;It’s all part of the trick she has for Ariel and having her think that she doesn’t have her “Siren’s song” which overall means her singing, but what she really meant is her entire voice :) It’s actually quite clever on her part and a great play on words :-)
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Disney Duster wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:38 pm Nomad2010, I am shocked to realize you are right! She says she won't have her siren song, but that doesn't mean she can't speak at all!
Right?! I had to go back and look through so much, but never once is it stated, and Ariel never has a “my voice?” moment. We’re so trained in the original that we completely overlooked that, and that’s such a crucial detail. I really have a feeling the people behind the movie know it’s missing but had no way to edit it in without that verse, so hoped people wouldn’t notice. But for a movie about a mermaid who gives up her voice to become human, leaving that out is bonkers and I can’t believe that it’s not been noticed or brought up anywhere!
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nomad2010 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:15 pm
Disney Duster wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:38 pm Nomad2010, I am shocked to realize you are right! She says she won't have her siren song, but that doesn't mean she can't speak at all!
Right?! I had to go back and look through so much, but never once is it stated, and Ariel never has a “my voice?” moment. We’re so trained in the original that we completely overlooked that, and that’s such a crucial detail. I really have a feeling the people behind the movie know it’s missing but had no way to edit it in without that verse, so hoped people wouldn’t notice. But for a movie about a mermaid who gives up her voice to become human, leaving that out is bonkers and I can’t believe that it’s not been noticed or brought up anywhere!
But like I said above, are you sure you’re not overthinking it? Are you sure it’s not already there but in a different form, kind of like what this overall movie actually is? :-)
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Yup, nomad2010. Though surely they could have put it in the script without the missing song verses?

Patricier21, well, it's just that "siren song" does not equal "voice". A song is not a voice. We see a clear distinction between Ariel singing with her siren song to Eric, and talking to everyone else.
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Disney Duster wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:16 pm Yup, nomad2010. Though surely they could have put it in the script without the missing song verses?

Patricier21, well, it's just that "siren song" does not equal "voice". A song is not a voice. We see a clear distinction between Ariel singing with her siren song to Eric, and talking to everyone else.
My guess is that because the second verse was cut so late in production that they didn’t have a choice. We know from the first screening of the song it was originally in there, which means visual effects were at least mostly complete as well. If it was that late, filming would’ve been wrapped for ages and they couldn’t reshoot to add it. The higher ups must’ve requested they cut the verse leaving them no choice but to cut the lines about her voice as well. I’m assuming they never anticipated cutting that section or else they would have added a mention of the loss of voice into the script, probably specifically in place of the “siren song” mention during the break in the song.
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Disney Duster wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:16 pm Yup, nomad2010. Though surely they could have put it in the script without the missing song verses?

Patricier21, well, it's just that "siren song" does not equal "voice". A song is not a voice. We see a clear distinction between Ariel singing with her siren song to Eric, and talking to everyone else.
But no, like I said, it’s Ursula deliberately tricking Ariel into thinking that she’ll only lose her “song“, as she is a mermaid which is also interpreted as a siren, so therefore what Ursula truly meant was taking away her entire voice and not just her “Song”, but she made Ariel and apparently the audience think it only meant her singing and not her entire voice, hence her not really realizing it until after.

It’s also portrayed exactly like in the original movie how she loses her voice, so again even for those who haven’t seen the original, they can clearly see that she is losing her entire voice and not just her singing, and or discover that like her afterwards :-) After all, film is SHOW don’t TELL, Right? :-)
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So Jodi did in fact know that she would be making an appearance almost from the start. Sneaky, sneaky.

I wonder why she was on-set for a whole month. I feel like her two-second cameo could have been filmed in an afternoon.

Anyways, I might check out the film again soon, and I'll have to listen more carefully for the conditions of Ursula's deal.

Even if they did omit the part about Ariel losing her speaking voice, I kinda feel like the film accounts for that. Ariel has that moment in "For the First Time" where she seems surprised that she can't speak. There's even the lyric "Realize the price that you paid with your voice," which suggests that Ariel either did not know or at least fully appreciate what Ursula meant when she said she required her "siren voice."

I guess it would make that moment all the more tragic, but that would also rob Ariel of some of her autonomy if she didn't know up front exactly what she was giving up. Another one step forward/two steps back for making Ariel more feminist in this version.
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PatchofBlue wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:32 am Web capture_29-6-2023_82053_www.facebook.com.jpeg

So Jodi did in fact know that she would be making an appearance almost from the start. Sneaky, sneaky.

I wonder why she was on-set for a whole month. I feel like her two-second cameo could have been filmed in an afternoon.

Anyways, I might check out the film again soon, and I'll have to listen more carefully for the conditions of Ursula's deal.

Even if they did omit the part about Ariel losing her speaking voice, I kinda feel like the film accounts for that. Ariel has that moment in "For the First Time" where she seems surprised that she can't speak. There's even the lyric "Realize the price that you paid with your voice," which suggests that Ariel either did not know or at least fully appreciate what Ursula meant when she said she required her "siren voice."

I guess it would make that moment all the more tragic, but that would also rob Ariel of some of her autonomy if she didn't know up front exactly what she was giving up. Another one step forward/two steps back for making Ariel more feminist in this version.
Your assessment of this is literally what I have been saying all along above, EH? :-)
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The Little Mermaid ranked #7 as the most in-demand movie of 2023 so far.

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