Oz: The Great and Powerful

DisneyJedi · Post by **DisneyJedi** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:56 am

As long as it doesn't end up being a straight up remake of The Wizard of Oz, that's fine with me.

You know. The Judy Garland one.

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:59 am

DisneyJedi wrote:As long as it doesn't end up being a straight up remake of The Wizard of Oz, that's fine with me.

You know. The Judy Garland one.

This is not whatsoever a remake... It doesn't tell anything even remotely close to the same story.

FigmentJedi · Post by **FigmentJedi** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:03 am

SWillie! wrote:
DisneyJedi wrote:As long as it doesn't end up being a straight up remake of The Wizard of Oz, that's fine with me.

You know. The Judy Garland one.
This is not whatsoever a remake... It doesn't tell anything even remotely close to the same story.

I think DisneyJedi's referring to the possible sequel. And honestly, I'd love to see a more faithful adaptation of the book, but because the 39 Musical is such a sacred cow, it's overshadowed any other effort at making an Oz movie and perpetuated myths like Oz just being a dream into the pop cultural psyche.

Toky · Post by **Toky** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:43 am

Would love to see Disney putting this into a sort of trilogy

Even though it's hard to make a new Wizard of Oz, since MGM is so stricted what to use and what not, I'm sure Disney could pull it of....but I'm guessing they would rather create another prequel like story

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:45 am

I think if they make a trilogy, they should end it by having Evanora defeated through 'death by house'.

That way, they can end it before it turns into a Wizard of Oz remake, which no one wants.

WonderNeverOz · Post by **WonderNeverOz** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:38 am

PatrickvD wrote:I think if they make a trilogy, they should end it by having Evanora defeated through 'death by house'.

That way, they can end it before it turns into a Wizard of Oz remake, which no one wants.

Yeah, and also a reason to why dorothy was chose to be the one.

Toky · Post by **Toky** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:51 am

WonderNeverOz wrote:
PatrickvD wrote:I think if they make a trilogy, they should end it by having Evanora defeated through 'death by house'.

That way, they can end it before it turns into a Wizard of Oz remake, which no one wants.
Yeah, and also a reason to why dorothy was chose to be the one.

I hope that the next one will be the story of dorothy... They can easily make a good movie, without doing harm to the 1939 version. If they pick an actress like, lets say Elle Fanning as Dorothy, and decide to make the story a bit different and more exciting than the Judy Garland one. However the idea behind The great and powerful was to make a prequel to the old movie. Thats why it bears so much resemblance. A remake of the Wizard of Oz was never the plan, but money makes Disney take weird decisions

dvdjunkie · Post by **dvdjunkie** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:20 am

My review of this movie can be found in "What Movie Did You Just Watch" and I hope that you all read it thoroughly before chastizing me for my review.

I know that I said you couldn't drag me to this movie, but when someone offers to take you to the World Class IMAX Theater to see it, and pay for it, I just couldn't say know, because I knew if I didn't like it, it wasn't my money that paid for it.

Disney_freak · Post by **Disney_freak** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:45 am

Personally, if they did a remake of the Wizard of Oz I would like to see Ariana Grande as Dorothy. I think she'd make a perfect Dorothy and she definitely has the vocals if they want to make it a musical.

SwordInTheStone777 · Post by **SwordInTheStone777** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:44 am

Disney doesn't need to have Oz as there new franchise, just let them have this and Return To Oz (1985) and move on.

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:02 pm

I've always thought Oz would make a great Disney franchise. It's so rich with unique characters, it just makes sense. I only wish they could somehow strike a deal with MGM for the rights to the details that have been ingrained in society... Most obviously the ruby slippers.

I hope eventually we'll be able to meet Oz characters in the parks.

SwordInTheStone777 · Post by **SwordInTheStone777** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:04 pm

SWillie! wrote:I've always thought Oz would make a great Disney franchise. It's so rich with unique characters, it just makes sense. I only wish they could somehow strike a deal with MGM for the rights to the details that have been ingrained in society... Most obviously the ruby slippers.

I hope eventually we'll be able to meet Oz characters in the parks.

MGM would probably be able to come to an agreement to make a joint Disney-MGM Oz movie, but Warner Bros. would want way too much money in order for that to happened.

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:27 pm

I think it'd be worth the money. It's hardly like Disney couldn't afford it.

DisneyDude2010 · Post by **DisneyDude2010** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:09 pm

'Oz' Looking Great and Powerful at Box Office, Eyes $75M Weekend

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/oz-looking ... 30905.html

SwordInTheStone777 · Post by **SwordInTheStone777** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:26 pm

SWillie! wrote:I think it'd be worth the money. It's hardly like Disney couldn't afford it.

Disney probably could afford it, but the other thing is Oz fans wouldn't want Oz to be associated as a Disney film, because it's an MGM film, and they might think that if that were to happened that it would tarnish the legacy of the 1939 film.

Many people are still on fence about Wicked[/b] as the musical makes you feel bad for the Wicked Witch of the West, which L. Frank Baum never imagned/intended readers to do, the Wicked Witch of the West was and will always be a villian.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:02 pm

I liked it. If you have the chance to see this in 3D, do so. This is the best 3D effects I've seen in a live action film for a while. I didn't see Avatar in 3D so I can't compare it but all I know it had more 3D than many other films that are animated and in 3D

Would Disney really have to pay royalties to Warner Brothers to make a Wizard of Oz Movie. I mean as long as they have the silver slippers instead of ruby and they don't copy the follow the the songs to a T. Am I right?

Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing a second Oz film based on Oz The Great and Powerful including Dorothy.

Saturius2000 · Post by **Saturius2000** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:13 pm

I thought this movie was a lot of fun. China Girl just melted my heart. Didn't think Mila pulled off being her other role. She tried, but she just didn't nail it for me. Williams as Glenda was fine acing wise, but I thought her personality was all wrong. She was noble, but far too sedate here. She had no "oomph." Maybe it was deliberate and she'll gradually transform to be a little more feisty if there are future sequels. I cheered when she finally got off her butt and faced down the WWW. Finally showed who's boss.

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:09 pm

disneyboy20022 wrote:Would Disney really have to pay royalties to Warner Brothers to make a Wizard of Oz Movie. I mean as long as they have the silver slippers instead of ruby and they don't copy the follow the the songs to a T. Am I right?

But that's what I'm saying - since creative changes such as the ruby slippers have become so ingrained in society, I think Disney ought to pay the royalties rather than use the original ideas from the books. Because if they use the silver slippers (which I know some will argue that they ought to), the general audience goer who has no knowledge of Oz besides the classic film will be like "what the heck? They're supposed to be ruby!" I think this would be the majority of people's reaction. They're so iconic, I think Disney should pay the money to use them.

And for those who don't want the classic film to be associated with Disney in any way... Well, sorry. It's not like they'll be changing the classic. They woudl be honoring it.

gardener14 · Post by **gardener14** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:29 pm

SWillie! wrote:...since creative changes such as the ruby slippers have become so ingrained in society, I think Disney ought to pay the royalties rather than use the original ideas from the books. Because if they use the silver slippers (which I know some will argue that they ought to), the general audience goer who has no knowledge of Oz besides the classic film will be like "what the heck? They're supposed to be ruby!" I think this would be the majority of people's reaction. They're so iconic, I think Disney should pay the money to use them.

...or people could wonder why the slippers are silver and not ruby, learn something new, and then realize that there are other aspects of the film that are taken from the original book as well as references to the 1939 movie. I think people in general are smart enough and I give them enough credit to deal with it. Any new Oz film shouldn't have to rely on the 1939 movie instead of the original stories just because some people are ignorant enough to think the 1939 movie is the authoritative Oz source.

Flanger-Hanger · Post by **Flanger-Hanger** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:52 pm

I don't think there's enough material for a pre-Dorothy Oz trilogy out of this. My guess is the sequel is a real sequel (a la Return to Oz).

And paying for ruby slipper rights is not something new for Disney either. They did so for Return and could so again, especially since Great and Powerful already takes multiple visual cues from the 1939 movie.

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