Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney

[Sotiris]

Here's some great fan animation of Hades, Kerchak, and Dr. Doppler by animator Madalin Truica.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CyoEG7Qorcy/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjx9ZrtqKyQ/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CI5X2OWjDG8/

[Mooky]

That Hades animation is *chef's kiss*. I would have believed it came straight out of the original movie. Kerchak's is pretty great too.

I've seen some good-looking 2D animation featuring several male Disney characters, but in compromising actions and on an unsavory site that I obviously can't link to here. I was perplexed at how good parts of it looked and I'm not quite sure how it was accomplished, was it reused animation or vector animation -- I wasn't going to join the artist's Patreon to find out.

[MoonMarc21]

I've seen some good-looking 2D animation featuring several male Disney characters, but in compromising actions and on an unsavory site that I obviously can't link to here. I was perplexed at how good parts of it looked and I'm not quite sure how it was accomplished, was it reused animation or vector animation -- I wasn't going to join the artist's Patreon to find out.

Dude...I think I know what you're talking about

It's that one Tiktok meme with Milo and Tarzan, right Mooky?

[Mooky]

Correct. There are actually several videos done by the same person: Tarzan/Milo, Aladdin/Hercules, Kristoff/Flynn, and one with Tadashi solo, all of them 2D.

[Farerb]

Came across this interesting video from someone who used to work at Disney:
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNySH6PW/

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Came across this interesting video from someone who used to work at Disney:
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNySH6PW/

Yeah, sorry, I think I'm gonna have to ignore it and doubt it, because his claims of paper hand-drawn animation never coming back to Disney might be a lie if the Disney+ Tiana series is hand-drawn with paper, and maybe using the Toon Boom System, too.

And I don't believe him when he says Wish will look unfinished/unrendered on the big screen because that animator had to go out of his way to say on Twitter that the YouTube compression does not suit the look that Wish is going for.

So, sorry, gonna have to pass on this, especially after seeing Once Upon A Studio put all those claims of paper hand-drawn animation never coming back at Disney in the gutter.

[Kyle]

I don't see any reason to discredit/ignore what he's saying, do I wish and hope he's wrong, of course. But its rare to get people from the inside talk about Disney in a candid way. One hand drawn disney plus series and a 6-minute short isn't enough to make any claims of it coming back in a real way any time soon the only reasonable take away.

[PatrickvD]

I think his whole tik tok was messy. More like he’s looking for clicks. He’s probably not wrong at all but everything he said is stuff people on the outside of the industry had already established as well.

It’s giving a bit of a disgruntled former employee vibe to me as well.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

I think his whole tik tok was messy. More like he’s looking for clicks. He’s probably not wrong at all but everything he said is stuff people on the outside of the industry had already established as well.

It’s giving a bit of a disgruntled former employee vibe to me as well.

Yep. I agree.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

I don't see any reason to discredit/ignore what he's saying, do I wish and hope he's wrong, of course. But its rare to get people from the inside talk about Disney in a candid way. One hand drawn disney plus series and a 6-minute short isn't enough to make any claims of it coming back in a real way any time soon the only reasonable take away.

Unless they're so successful enough at awards (OUAS at the Oscars) and in ratings (Tiana on Disney+) that it brings it back in a real way.

Also, OUAS is a 9-minute short, not 6.

[Sotiris]

Dave Koz Drops ‘When You Wish Upon A Star’ Music Video
https://www.awn.com/news/dave-koz-drops ... usic-video

[The Disneynerd]

The short "the brave locomotive" Just dropped and the Animation is gorgeous! Its so smooth and you can really feel how 3dimensional all the characters are! Peak 2d Animation right there! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8mScKWj3kQ

[blackcauldron85]

Super enjoyable short! It looked great, was a nice story!

[Sotiris]

There's a 2D sequence in Trolls 3.

‘Trolls Band Together’ Gets Psychedelic
https://www.indiewire.com/features/anim ... 234926790/

‘Trolls Band Together’ Director Walt Dohrn Says He Couldn’t Get Enough of Its ‘Trippy’ 2D Detour
https://www.thewrap.com/trolls-band-tog ... interview/

[blackcauldron85]

I saw Trolls: Band Together on Thursday, and there were 2 (similar) hand-drawn animated segments. Very...if psychedelic isn't the word, I don't know what is.

[Sotiris]

Disney will keep "exploring".

In an exclusive interview with The Direct’s Russ Milheim, Wish co-director Chris Buck commented on whether Disney Animation would ever consider dabbling in 2D animation again. The filmmaker exclaimed that the studio would “absolutely” look into including 2D animation in their future movies, noting how the character of Star in Wish was actually 2D in early tests: “I think, absolutely. This film was inspired, obviously, by the legacy and the 2D animation. And the look has a somewhat 2D look with the lines on the characters. We did early tests with Star as 2D. But yeah, I think we keep exploring.”

Speaking on the unique style of Wish, Buck spoke about how the movie was the product of an ever-evolving style: “The nice thing is, we started with some shorts, you got 'Paperman' and 'Feast' and 'Far From the Tree' that sort of explored the look that we adapted, and we kept evolving. We had never done it in full feature before. So that was going to be a challenge. I would say absolutely. You just don't know what the next thing is going to be.”

Source: https://thedirect.com/article/disney-2d ... -exclusive

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Maybe they will if Once Upon A Studio wins Best Animated Short and if Tiana does well on Disney+.

But like Lee said it has to be the right project.

And to me, I think the right project has to be a Mickey Mouse movie, maybe The Search for Mickey Mouse.

[PatrickvD]

Disney will keep "exploring".

It’s hilarious to me that Disney is spending all this money on technology that would be able to emulate the look and feel of hand drawn animation when they could just, you know … produce actual hand drawn animation.

It’s not rocket science.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

At least Disney IS producing actual hand-drawn animation with that upcoming Disney+ Tiana series. Might not be much, but a long-form series is a start.

[Jules]

D23ExpoVisitor25, I admire your optimism, but I feel you need to distinguish between facts and hearsay. You consistently clutch at the flimsiest of straws on most threads here to support what are arguably your hopes and wishes, rather than what has been corroborated by reputable sources.

Don't get me wrong - it's fine to be hopeful. But make sure hope it doesn't make you irrational.

By the way, I trust you did not go through with your plan to help market Wish by dressing up as the Star character and greeting people on the street. Unless Disney are paying you for it, don't go marketing their movie. They can damn well do that themselves! Remember they don't give you their Blu-rays for free. You pay for them, right?

Forgive me for asking, but how old are you? I get a feeling you may be among our younger members, which may be why you still have stars in your eyes when it comes to the Walt Disney Co.

Have fun watching movies! But try to remain objective.