Beauty and the Beast Discussion

[Disney Duster]

Ah yes, then I agree live action usually does not work like animation, though someday I think it could be done and look good.

No one thinks its weird the message is "it's the inside that counts" but the characters all have to be human again? Yea, yea, I know I thought about the unhappiness that comes in your true soul not matching your body...

I have a special treat for Beauty and the Beast fans. Ever wondered what the prologue would have been like...in animation? Seeing how the prince became the beast? Well, take a look:

Beauty and the Beast's Prologue: How it would be Animated

Did anyone realize that Belle says she lives in a little town full of little people and it's quiet? Then they turn into a big, loud chorus? Irony? lol

And here's my parody of "Belle". Hope you enjoy it:

"Little town, it's a quiet village.
Everday, is just such a bore!
Stupid town, full of stupid people!
Waking up to say..."

"Bonjour! Bonjour! Bonjour! Bonjour! Bonjour!"

"There goes the baker with his tray like always,
this place is like my private hell!
Every morning is the same, every morning is so lame!
God, I hate this fricken' town..."

"Good morning, Belle!"

*Fake smile* "Oh good morning Monsieur."

"These people are so stupid they don't even realize I'm singing about them!"

Hehe.

[ajmrowland]

That's a great prologue. I hope to see the storyboards with the new edition.

And nice parody! Can you do the rest of teh song?

[Disney Duster]

Wow, no one else really seemed to care about or notice that nice treat about the prologue. What a loss to them!

Well ajmrowland, since you asked for it...and I'm glad you did, I really enjoyed this!:


[Belle:] "Little town, it's a quiet village.
Everday, is just such a bore!
Stupid town, full of stupid people!
Waking up to say..."

[Townsfolk:] "Bonjour! Bonjour! Bonjour! Bonjour! Bonjour!"

[Belle:] "There goes the baker with his tray like always,
this place is like my private hell!
Every morning is the same, every morning is so lame!
God, I hate this fricken' town..."

[Baker:] "Good morning, Belle!"
[Belle:] *Fake smile* "Oh, good morning Monsieur!"
"These people are so stupid they don't even realize I'm singing about them!"
[Baker:] Where are you off to?
[Belle:] The bookshop. I just finished the most wonderful story
about things that are so much more interesting than this place -
[Baker:] That's nice. I don't give a damn, you're hot and I like to look but that's all I'm allowed to do, and I like living my boring life for some reason. Marie! The baguettes! Hurry up!

[Townsfolk:] Look there she goes that girl is strange, no question
too deep in thought to hear us yell?
Or is it actually
that her head is empty?
Cause she doesn't know we're singing about her, Belle.

[Man I:] Bonjour
[Woman I:] Good day
[Man I:] Still makin' fam'ly?

[Woman II:] Bonjour
[Man II:] Good day
[Woman II:] Still beat your wife?

[Woman III:] I need six eggs
[Man III:] Looks like you need more...

[Belle:] Will someone please just cut me with a knife?!

[Bookseller:] Ah, Belle.
[Belle:] Good Morning. I regrettably have to return the book I borrowed.
[Bookseller:] Finished already?
[Belle:] There's nothing to do except read! Please tell me you have something new!?
[Bookseller:] Well...not since yesterday...
[Belle:] Of course, nothing new ever happens. I'll borrow this one.[Bookseller:] That one? But you've read it twice!
[Belle:] It's my favorite. In fact, I'm gonna steal it.
[Bookseller:] If you like it all that much, it's yours!
[Belle:] But sir, I just said I was gonna steal it!
[Bookseller:] Oh, Belle, girls don't just take what they want! I'm generously giving you the book because your nice and hot.
[Belle:] DAMNIT, I try to do something daring to spice up this place, give me an adrenaline kick, and I can't even get that!

[Townsfolk:] Look there she goes that girl is so peculiar
I wonder if she's feeling well
she near became a crook
when instead she should just cook
What a psycho to the rest of us is Belle

[Belle:] Oh, isn't this amazing?
It's my fav'rite part because you'll see
Here's where she meets Prince Charming
And I use this picture on those nights when I'm lonely...

[Woman:] Now it's no wonder that her name means "beauty",
though hers does not match "Dormant Belle"'s
[Shopkeeper:] But behind that fair facade
I'm afraid she's rather mod
Very diff'rent from the rest of us
[Townsfolk:] She's nothing like past princesses
Yes, trying to be feminist is Belle!

[LeFou:] Wow! You didn't miss a shot, Gaston! You're the greatest
hunter in the whole world! I love you.
[Gaston:] I know. I mean, what?
[LeFou:] No beast alive stands a chance against you. Ha ha ha! And
no girl, for that matter. *sigh* You don't go after boys..
[Gaston:] It's true, LeFou. I peg girls like I peg the beasts. I mean, girls are no better than animals, they're just prettier. And I've got my sights set on that gazelle.
[LeFou:] Hm! The inventor's daughter?
[Gaston:] She's the one - the lucky prize I'm going to win like a stuffed bear at a carnival. She'll be like all my trophies and dead animal decorations.
[LeFou:] But she's...not me...
[Gaston:] The most beautiful girl in town.
[LeFou:] Yes, I'm neither of those things, but...
[Gaston:] That makes her the best. And don't I deserve the best?
[LeFou:] Well, of course! I mean you do, but I'm the best for you...

[Gaston:] Right from the moment when I met her, saw her
I said she's gorgeous and I fell
My homosexuality
and narcissism both make me
want to marry myself in the form of a girl, Belle

[Bimbettes:] Look there he goes
Isn't he beefy?
Monsieur Gaston
Oh he's so cute
I hope his branch
is also leafy
Or is he compensating for his shoot?

[Man I:] Bonjour!
[Gaston:] Move, bitch!
[Man II:] Good day
[Man III:] Mais oui!
[Matron:] You call this bacon?
[Woman I:] What lovely grapes!
[Man IV:] Are those...
[Woman II:] Metaphors...
[Man IV:] one pound
[Gaston:] talking about me?!
[Cheese merchant:] I'll get the knife
[Gaston:] Don't cut my grapes off!
[Woman I:] This bread -
[Man V:] Those fish -
[Woman I:] it's stale!
[Man V:] they smell!
[Baker:] No, that's Gaston.

[Belle:] There must be more than this simpleton life!
[Gaston:] My grapes and bacon will make Belle my wife!

[Townsfolk:] Look there she goes a girl who's strange but special
but special how, we cannot tell...
she's like a lesbian
won't let a guy come in
'Cause she really is a funny girl
Hot as a playboy bunny girl
But in the queer sense, funny girl
That Belle


Woo! Hope I didn't offend, but only made laughs!

[rj.disney]

^ GENIUS!

[ajmrowland]

XD

[Margos]

Epic win, Disney Duster, LOL!

[Escapay]

Wow, no one else really seemed to care about or notice that nice treat about the prologue. What a loss to them!

I don't know about anyone else, but I already read it a few years ago.

[Belle:] Oh, isn't this amazing?
It's my fav'rite part because you'll see
Here's where she meets Prince Charming
And I use this picture on those nights when I'm lonely...

OMG, that's priceless. My favorite passage in the entire thing.



albert

[Scarred4life]

That was hilarious! I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

[Lazario]

My favorites:

[Belle:] "There goes the baker with his tray like always,
this place is like my private hell!

[Baker:] "Good morning, Belle!"
[Belle:] *Fake smile* "Oh, good morning Monsieur!"

[Townsfolk:] Look there she goes that girl is strange, no question
too deep in thought to hear us yell?

[Woman II:] Bonjour
[Man II:] Good day
[Woman II:] Still beat your wife?

[Belle:] There's nothing to do except read! Please tell me you have something new!?
[Bookseller:] Well...not since yesterday...
[Belle:] Of course, nothing new ever happens. I'll borrow this one.
[Bookseller:] That one? But you've read it twice!
[Belle:] It's my favorite. In fact, I'm gonna steal it.

[Belle:] There must be more than this simpleton life!
[Gaston:] My grapes and bacon will make Belle my wife!

[Goliath]

Wow. Disney Duster has a sense of humor?

Now I've seen everything!

I must admit, I cracked up.

[Prince Edward]

Hahaha! That was the funniest I have read on this site for a long time:D I laughed out loud several times, so thank you for that Disney Duster;D

[Disney Duster]

Wow, I didn't think the forum would be so kind and make me feel so great! Thank you everyone! Thank you especially ajmrowland for suggesting it to me!

I mean, it's funny, Belle lives in this qaint, quiet village, and then they turn into a giant, loud chorus...

When I looked up the lyrics for this, though, the Bimbettes sangGaston was "such a tall, dark, strong and handsome brute", which ryhms with when they sing, "oh he's so cute", but in the film, and the Broadway play, and anywhere I've heard it I thought they sang "he's such a tall, dark, strong, and handsome prince", as kind of an irony that they think he's a prince when he's really a beast, and the Beast turns out to be the real prince. So...how is it really in the movie? Don't they say "prince"?

Recently I read about an 1857 French novel called "Madam Bovary" about a beautiful girl who is tired of her provincial French village and life and dreams of a better, more exciting, higher life from the books she reads, and goes on some...err...romantic adventures with rich intelligent guys she wants and likes more than her husband. It's considered one of the best novels ever written but is said t have simple, almost archetypal plot.

It just reminds me a lot of Belle and Disney's Beauty and the Beast, and it seems to say what they made was not too far from what real French people may have been like during the time period.

Also, I wanted to point out LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT DOES HAPPEN IN BEAUTY AND THE BEAST. SORT OF.

Okay, so at the end, the Beast turns into a handsome Prince. He says it's him, and Belle looks into his eyes and declares it is him and kisses him. Belle was presented with someone new she didn't know or recognize. But with a mere close look, she could tell he was the one for her. It's like she met a knew person and fell in love with him from what she could tell with her eyes. Not from spending lots of time with him. Not from talking to him. From what she could see (apparently, his soul, from the way he made his eyes look with his soul looking through them).

I know that you could say she was able to recognize and love his soul through sight perhaps only because she had come to know his soul beforehand, but...

...once again love at first sight triumphs with legitimacy, Beauty and the Beast's love is like the earlier Disney royal couples'!

[pap64]

... I knew it. I knew that deep inside that pretty, passionate mind of your there was a sick little guy who loves to view the magical world of Disney through X-rated glasses, Duster.

...Welcome to the club! Here's your membership card, t-shirt and club rules. We meet every Thursday night at 8.

[Escapay]

... I knew it. I knew that deep inside that pretty, passionate mind of your there was a sick little guy who loves to view the magical world of Disney through X-rated glasses, Duster.

...Welcome to the club! Here's your membership card, t-shirt and club rules. We meet every Thursday night at 8.

And for anyone who doesn't know what to do on W.E.D.nesdays...



albert

[Disney Duster]

Pap64, thank you. You may not realize how great all those words you said actually made me feel...

[Margos]

I'm pretty sure it's "brute." "Prince" would make absolutely no sense.

And, as much as I'd hate to argue with you Duster.... That's not really love at first sight. It was with that look in his eyes that she realized that it was the same person that she had fallen in love with gradually. Before that, she was just confused and weirded-out. She didn't fall in love with him in that moment, she only got that look after she was already in love with him. It just confirmed that he was the same person, you know what I mean?

[Disney Duster]

Well, the point is the film says you can tell something about a person without long conversations and time, just by looking at someone (and seeing something come through what you see). I suppose you could say that maybe she could only recognize such a thing after knowing it, and deeply, for a long time before, but it still stands she recognized it through looking and no words or much time.

Maybe I should have said it shows "love at sight", but it was kind of like seeing a new person for the first time in a way.

[Margos]

She loved him before that one look you talked about, though. She was gradually falling for him the whole movie, came out and said it when he died, and then realized that he wasn't really dead and looked a bit different, but she still loved the same guy. So... No, you really aren't making much sense here.

[Disney Duster]

The point is she could tell it was him, the one she loved, with a look. Not with time. Not with dialogue. By sight.

[Escapay]

If she didn't recognize him, the movie would have a really awkward ending.

• "I love you," Belle cried over Beast's dead body.
  
  All of a sudden, strange beams of light pierced the ground and Beast's body levitated into the air. His cloak wrapped around him as light and energy began emanating from him, and to Belle's amazement, he started transforming. His paws became hands and feet, and his face suddenly lost all its hair. The body slowly descended to the ground, his face still concealed from Belle. He got up, confused and slightly stunned at what had happened. His hands...his hands were hands! He looked at both of them, then turned around. There was Belle, who looked as bewildered as he did.
  
  "Belle..." he whispered, realizing his voice was no longer raspy and deep. "It's me!"
  
  Belle studied his face for a moment, before looking at him directly in the eyes. They looked warm and familiar, like someone she knew.
  
  But it wasn't his eyes. She knew his eyes.
  
  "Sorry," she said. "Do I know you?"
  
  "What?" he said.
  
  "I think I should go," Belle said. "I'm so sorry."
  
  She walked past him and through the messy chambers. She didn't seem to notice a candlestick, clock, kettle, and teacup look forlornly as she walked by.
  
  "What...what?" the man said aloud to no one in particular. "That was not supposed to happen!" He stormed back into his room and started tearing things apart, with more difficulty as he no longer had his beastly strength. He got a splinter as he tried to rip a table leg off. "Ow, dammit!"
  
  "So what happens now?" the little teacup asked. "Do I still have to sleep in the cupboard?"

ETA:

I found where I read the prologue article before:

Well, I've come a little closer to solving the Ageless Prince mystery.

For one thing, I discovered this alternate, fully-animated opening for Beauty and the Beast as opposed to the final stained-glass window version.

Jim Hill Media did a story on it, where Jim aproximated the dialogue and action from what he remembered being shown a long time ago.

You can view it here.

I was looking for my old post about the Beast's eyes before I decided to just write a silly "I don't know who you are!" ending, and found it, along with the above post (both were in the same thread). For what it's worth, here's what I said a few years ago about eyes:

Eyes are the hardest part to change in a person (in plastic surgery, that is), so often they stay the same.

But eyes also do have a powerful force of their own. One look can be interpreted in so many different ways, and as a Beast, you always saw him with these dark angry eyes. Not necessarily squinting at you, but almost furrowed and tired. When Beast began to be a nicer guy, his eyes were beaming, they became thoughtful and very...safe. I agree with your interpretation about it being "windows to the soul", because Belle could recognize the Prince was her Beast through his eyes. She recognized the thoughtfulness and the goodness in them.

There's some good BATB discussion there about the rose too.

albert