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Police Make Arrest in Trashed Voter Forms Investigation

The case of trashed voter registration forms has now led to criminal charges in Rockingham County. Colin Small, 31, of Pennsylvania faces 13 felony and misdemeanor counts, all of them related to alleged voter fraud. He's being held in the Rockingham Regional Jail.

A Harrisonburg store manager reported seeing Small dump a trash bag containing eight voter registration forms, just before the Monday filing deadline. Investigators say Small worked for a private company, contracted by the Republican Party of Virginia to register voters.

The Rockingham County sheriff does not believe the document trashing was widespread. He also says he doesn't believe there were political motives behind the incident. No other cases have been reported.

In a statement late Thursday night from the Republican Party of Virginia, they say Small's alleged actions are a direct contradiction of both his training and the explicit instructions given to him. Chairman Pat Mullins said, "The Republican Party of Virginia will not tolerate any action by any person that could threaten the integrity of our electoral process."
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Romney ad advantage doesn't tell the whole story
NEW YORK (AP) — Independent groups working to elect Republican Mitt Romney have helped him match or even exceed President Barack Obama's TV ad spending in dozens of media markets in battleground states. But the spending disparity doesn't tell the whole story, as Obama is still getting more value for his money with his ads.

An Associated Press analysis of presidential campaign advertising data from April through last week found that pro-Romney spending has exceeded pro-Obama ad spending by at least $65 million across the nine states expected to decide the election: Colorado, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa and Wisconsin.

Republican outside groups like American Crossroads and Americans for Prosperity have spent millions to complement Romney's campaign advertising, helping the GOP hopeful break even with or surpass Obama in places the president once dominated.

Obama has gotten a boost from Democratic-leaning groups like Priorities USA Action, a "super" political action committee supporting his re-election, but not enough to tamp out the GOP-leaning advantage.

Romney's allies have dropped millions of dollars in key swing state media markets. Without that assistance, pro-Obama spending would have outpaced pro-Romney spending in more than three dozen media markets.

Obama and groups supporting his re-election have spent more than $14.5 million on television ads in Las Vegas, about twice what Romney has spent. But GOP outside groups have dumped an extra $10 million into the market, allowing pro-Romney ads to outstrip pro-Obama TV spots there by $2.6 million.

In Washington, D.C., the main media market for voter-rich northern Virginia, Obama has had a $9 million advertising advantage over Romney. But an additional $13 million in outside ad spending, mainly from Crossroads GPS and Restore Our Future, put overall pro-Romney spending at a $29.6 million, besting the $25.9 million Obama has spent in that market.

Obama has more than doubled what Romney has spent on ads in Tampa, Fla. But $12 million in GOP outside money has poured into the market to help Romney, bringing pro-Romney spending to $19.7 million — about the same as what Obama has spent there.

Yet despite the onslaught, Obama has retained an overall advertising advantage over Romney and Republican groups. Under federal law, television stations must offer presidential campaigns a discounted price — it's known as the lowest unit rate — to run their spots in the two months leading up to Election Day. Independent political groups aren't eligible for the discount, so their ads cost as much to run as do commercials for products like Pepsi or Tide.

The Obama team has taken full advantage of the lower ad rates available to them, having booked their fall advertising last July and August to ensure placement on key shows in top markets. The leading Republican independent groups, American Crossroads and its affiliate Crossroads GPS, also placed their fall ad buys in the summer, but they are paying far higher rates for the same time slots as the president.

For example, American Crossroads had to pay nearly double what Obama's campaign was charged — $1,400 compared with $765 — to run an ad during Tampa's morning news program on Fox affiliate WTVT, a review of station records showed. Crossroads bought about four spots (compared with Obama's three) during the 8 a.m. weekday slot.

The pro-Romney super PAC Restore Our Future did not make its bookings in the summer and is placing ad buys just days before the spots air, jacking up prices even more. In Norfolk, Va., last week, ROF paid $10,455 to air an ad on CBS station WTKR during the Tuesday prime-time, crime drama "NCIS" — more than double the $4,705 the Obama campaign was charged for the same show.

The Obama campaign also retains an advantage over the Romney campaign when it comes to ad placement, even though both campaigns are entitled to the discounted rate.

Romney's campaign, like its independent ally Restore Our Future, places orders for its TV commercials just a few days before they are set to run. That means fewer ad slots are available to the campaign on a given day and in a given market, forcing the Romney team to pay more than the low rate it is eligible for if it wants to bounce another ad out of a time slot.

Romney's ad-buying pattern was on display again this week. On Monday, the campaign still had not placed ad buys in three swing states — Nevada, New Hampshire and Ohio — for spots that were supposed to start running on Wednesday.

Romney campaign officials acknowledged the strategy has cost more money at times but said it allowed them greater flexibility to place ads where and when they need them, and to target the ads to demographic groups depending on what their polling shows.

Still, the strategy does have disadvantages. In Cincinnati this month, the Obama campaign paid about $175 to NBC station WLWT to air an ad on "Late Night with Jimmy Fallon." Romney's team spent nearly double that, $300, to run an ad on the show.

In Columbus, Ohio, this month, the Obama campaign paid WSYX, the local ABC affiliate station, $300 to run a 30-second ad during "Good Morning America." The Romney campaign paid $550 for a similar ad that week, while American Crossroads paid $800.

"Just because the Republican side is stronger on dollar value, they're not stronger on audience size," said Joe Mercurio, a New York-based political media buyer. "Because of the way his campaign is buying, Romney has a smaller audience and his message to some degree is being polluted because the super PACs are muddying things up."
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After people see these are the kinds of tactics Romney uses to gain followers, I can't see how they can even think he'll be a proper president. Such an obvious power-play. He's using his "business connections" aka the Corporate groups he's invested in as Cenk names right in the beginning to influence their employees. Its sickening stuff, it shows that he really doesn't respect democracy if people thought he did in any form before.Image
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dvdjunkie wrote:When Michelle Obama was on "The View" the closest thing they go to religion was "Is your husband a romantic?" Don't understand why that question was even asked. Anyway, they never asked the religion question because that would have forced the First Lady to admit that they were 'something other than Christian' and then even Whoopi herself would have looked bad.
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Scamander wrote:
dvdjunkie wrote:When Michelle Obama was on "The View" the closest thing they go to religion was "Is your husband a romantic?" Don't understand why that question was even asked. Anyway, they never asked the religion question because that would have forced the First Lady to admit that they were 'something other than Christian' and then even Whoopi herself would have looked bad.
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It isn't. However it was insulting to the veterans and the soldiers of war when Ann compared her Mormon missionary campaign to that of soldiers fighting in war.

source: http://www.politicususa.com/ann-romney- ... itary.html

Right because facing a no solicitor sign is the same as facing some dude with an AK-47. Lol
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Seems like Obama has his own "binder" and here's the story about it. Of course you Reagan haters won't read it, because you didn't think Reagan was that good of a President, he is only listed in the Top 5 Presidents in History. Here the story:

http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles ... -full.html
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This will get some people talking and others tossing it aside as not true. Read it and form your opinion, and remember it is not too late to change your mind and vote for the real person qualified for President - Mitt Romney!

http://m.washingtontimes.com/blog/insid ... socialism/

All of you who think Wikipedia is 'all that' should get a kick out of this. Enjoy.
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Who here implied wikipedia was the be-all end-all of sources-aka "all that"?
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Yeah, Romney is really a trust worthy guy, isn't he? Image


Tagg Romney Invested in Ohio Electronic Voting Machines
Oct. 18, 2012 If the Romney’s can’t win legally, they’ll take over Ohio’s electronic voting machines through investments, a direct conflict of interest in a contentious state in this election.

The new owners of Ohio’s voting machines under the brand name HART Intercivic is none other than Tagg Romney the son of one of the candidates Mitt Romney. In recent weeks Tagg has taken a more “active role in his father’s campaign management” but when you look further, he also has a major problem with that role.

By virtue of conflict of interest alone, this role should be investigated by the DOJ preferably involving the addition of the FBI, Homeland Security and the CIA to ensure this connection will not endanger the vote in Ohio and other states.

After all isn’t the security of an election both state and federal authorities responsibility to ensure the election is not stolen, tampered, or results altered?

Tagg Romney and Hart InterCivic Voting Machines -Oct 18/2012

Tagg Romney the heir to the Romney fortunes (through Vulture Capitalism) is a chip off the old block and his dad scored big destroying American jobs through leveraging profitable US companies. Unfortunately for the employees of these companies they lost their jobs to cheaper labor in China sweat factories.

In 2008, after Romney lost the 2008 bid for President, it was all clear for Mitt Romney’s son Tagg Romney to invest in a company called Solamere Capital which is a direct subsidiary of Allen Stanford’s Bank and investment companies.

Solamere Capital

Allen Stanford was sentenced to 110 years in jail for one of the biggest 8 billion dollar ponzi scheme. The funds were never recovered for investors, and the SEC has never said Tagg Romney was not under investigation for his investments thereafter.

Tagg Romney tapped into Mitt Romney’s Rolodex of wealthy associates, political donors, wealthy investors and in particular Mitt Romney’s campaign fundraiser: Spencer Zwick.

Think Progress- Romney Family Investment -Ponzi Schemer Allen Stanford

The 10 million seed funds funds were said to have come from one of Ann Romney’s Blind Family Trust accounts which aren’t so blind after all. That seed money was also in the name of Mitt Romney and profits were made through this investment when Mitt partnered with his number one son.

The Voting Machine Connection to Ohio and Romney Family Investments

Bain Capital, Solamere Capital both of which are major investments for both Mitt and Tagg Romney are connected to many private equity investments.

As Lee Fang points out in his detailed analysis of the Romney investments

“Many of these private equity–owned companies rely on federal and state contracts, from HIG Capital’s Hart Intercivic, a voting machine company, to EnviroFoam Technologies, a biological and chemical decontamination firm that does business with the US military and is owned by Peterson Partners, a private equity firm listed in the Solamere prospectus.”

Solarmere’s tangled web of investments now includes Hart Intercivic voting machines which will be used in Cincinnati Ohio says Truth Out which could guarantee Mitt Romney the White House.

The Problem with Electronic Voting Machines- They Are Easily Hacked

Previous elections

The State of Ohio is Ground Zero for the White House, in particular Hamilton County a repeat of the George Bush election in 2004 would be devastating to the Obama campaign.

Truth Out

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“The widespread use of electronic voting machines from ES&S, and of Diebold software maintained by Triad, allowed Blackwell to electronically flip a 4% Kerry lead to a 2% Bush victory in the dead of election night.

ES&S, Diebold and Triad were all owned or operated by Republican partisans.

In election 2004, the shift of more than 300,000 votes after 12:20 am election night was a virtual statistical impossibility. It was engineered by Michael Connell, an IT specialist long affiliated with the Bush Family. Blackwell gave Connell’s Ohio-based GovTech the contract to count Ohio’s votes, which was done on servers housed in the Old Pioneer Bank Building in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

Thus the Ohio vote tally was done on servers that also carried the e-mail for Karl Rove and the national Republican Party. Connell died in a mysterious plane crash in December, 2008, after being subpoenaed in the King-Lincoln-Bronzeville federal lawsuit focused on how the 2004 election was decided (disclosure: we were attorney and plaintiff in that suit).

HART INTERCIVIC MACHINES ARE KNOWN FOR GLITCHES, FAILURES AND COUNTING ERRORS:

The fact that the State of Ohio is now run by Republicans, the voting machines by republican operatives and keenly related to the Romney Family spells out: A Department of Justice Investigation now, not after the election.

All voting machines should be securely monitored because they are really easy to hack into by anyone including the parties that have a big stake in winning on November 6, 2012.

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I have been searching for something that would give us an unbiased view (unlike Super Aurora's mudslinging left-wing stuff) of the Presidential candidates and their opinions on Medicare, Social Security, and other concerns just a couple of days before their third and final debate, which will feature radio and television personality Larry King as the moderator.

I think there is enough middle of the road stuff here to satisfy each and every person. I know that most of you are a lot younger, but this is what I am looking for in our candidates, so I can make my decision correctly.

http://www.aarp.org/politics-society/go ... 1&USEG_ID=

In this article there are also several other links to some very interesting things that some organization which neither endorses or contributes to Presidential campaigns and such.
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ajmrowland wrote:
Who here implied wikipedia was the be-all end-all of sources-aka "all that"?
On almost any thread here in UD/DVDDizzy you will find someone quoting Wikipedia because they use it to get the whole story behind whatever it is they are expounding on.

It seems to me that no matter what others think most of the contributors here use Wikipedia as their back-up source for information.

I have tried many times to show those people that Wikipedia is written by people like you and I, and they are always asking for corrections and contributions to their story.

I just wanted to make a point that Wikipedia has had to do some back peddling on statements they have had posted about both candidates for this election.

That was my only reason for that.
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dvdjunkie wrote:I have been searching for something that would give us an unbiased view (unlike Super Aurora's mudslinging left-wing stuff)
Forgive me for responding to you. I did promise that and will once again after this post. I just want get one thing corrected.

The sites I linked through out this thread does not come from neither liberal nor conservative pages. Mostly neutral sites. So to say that about me is completely fault. You on the other hand mostly posted fox news and Reagencoalition sites which are obvious right wing bias news sites known to everyone. That's why most of us shoot you down on those. If you want to be unbiased as you claim and want to convince us what you say is true, get your sources and links from a neutral and least biased new/info site. Posting Fox News and Reagen Coalition sites is not going to do that.
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During the debate, when asked about tax break, his for instance number off the top of his head was $25,000.

Wow, with that plan, we'd be more in debt because the government would give a lot of people more than what they pay into taxes.....

Also i agree with Super Aurora regarding his last post.
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We're not going to Guam, are we?
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Note to Mayhem: I saw those same graphs and you mixed the Bush and Obama Unemployment rates. Bush's were down, and if you pay any attention to the Labor Department, there are over 22 million people out of work and the unemployment rate has been over 8% for the last couple of years. There is nothing good about Obama, I guess. No one has been able to tell me four things he did positively to affect their lives.

Note to disneyboy20022: You really need to read that link that I posted regarding Obamacare and Romney's Health plans. First they have to get Obamacare repealed and that will be a task, but I am sure Romney is up for it. If Obama gets re-elected and Obamacare goes into effect in 2014 it will rob those on Social Security and Medicare of $750 million and we as a country will find it very hard to live the way we do now with the tax increase that will come with that infinitely poor Health program. This will affect you personally in a lot of ways, and with all the forward steps you have taken recently, you take backward steps under the Obamacare laws, believe me. Ask you doctor, point blank. If he is any kind of doctor he will explain to you how his hands will be tied in giving treatment to patients. Don't be disillusioned by all the left-wing tree-huggers here on DVDDizzy.


I thought all the rules for the debate meant everyone was supposed to abide by them. Apparently Mrs. Failure didn't think she would be noticed in her bright pink outfit cheering when she wasn't supposed to last Thursday night. Read about it here:

http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles ... eated.html

I hope Larry King can be a better moderator than the previous three have been. None of them have been able to be unbiased in their treatment of either candidate. Let's hope that Larry isn't Larry on Tuesday night.


Another note: I have a very good question for you Left wing Liberals who are actually voting this time.

Remember Obama’s $831 billion stimulus? His administration was required to release quarterly reports on its effects but they are a year behind. Are you going to be able to look past all of this along with Obama's failures in his other stimulus packages i.e. A123 and Solyndra? It will be interesting to head what you have to say about all this?

And this from the NRCC.org website:

A recent report from the Department of the Treasury on fiscal year 2012 shows that for every $7 in government revenue, Democrats spent $11!

These are the facts, and you better open your eyes to them.
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You know what, fuck it. If Obama wins, he wins. If Romney wins, he wins. I'm not doing any retarded bet with Mr. Tinfoil hat. Fuck that shit.
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Super Aurora wrote:You know what, fuck it. If Obama wins, he wins. If Romney wins, he wins. I'm not doing any retarded bet with Mr. Tinfoil hat. Fuck that shit.
Agreed, that is all

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Note to Super Aurora: Your use of foul language does not make you a better person and shows just how much respect you have for those around you. There are lots of other ways you could have expressed your comments about me, and no matter what you say, I am an adult, I am a registered Democrat, and I am one of those "Undecided, but leaning towards Romney" people who is only looking for intelligent replies, and intelligent conversation about this upcoming election, and now you have shown that you aren't either one of those.

disneyboy20022: I always believed that you were you were own person, and could not be led around by some of your peers. Apparently you didn't read any of my recent posts and links. The video you used was included in one of my posts, and I honestly think that you are not speaking freely about what your real concerns are when Obamacare goes by the wayside. You need to talk with your doctors, because you are definitely not aware of what Obamacare means to people in your condition. Our current President is not a people person, and has made that perfectly clear when he gives false statements about his 'failed' tenure as President of the United States. There are lots of things you and I don't totally agree on, but one of those is Obamacare. I have asked my doctors about what will happen in 2014, and it isn't good. If you talk to your doctor, as I have done mine, ask him/her directly, "If Obamacare goes into effect in January 2014 what kind of treatment can I expect from you?" You better be sitting down when your doctor gives you the answer.

I can tell from most of the recent comments here on this thread, that the majority of you haven't read my posts because you have written me off as an 'old man who doesn't know what he is talking about" and so none of you noticed that I placed some wrong information about the upcoming debate between Romney and ObaMao. I wrongly said it was Tuesday, when in all actuality it is Monday (tomorrow) and not Tuesday as I posted. When I make a mistake, I can take the criticism, I only hope that those of you that think ObaMao is the 'be all, see all, save all' of the candidates, are in for a real shock come November 6th when all of this comes down to the Electoral College, who, if you watch any news networks, show that Romney is ahead by just a little. This is going to be a close election, I know that. But I have a real good feeling about the outcome, if Romney doesn't blow it tomorrow night during the Debate.

If Romney can pin the President down on certain things that have come to light recently, Benghazi, A123, Solyndra, and his $200 million dollar loan from China, just as an example, I think that Romney can win this debate, in spite of Larry King's whining. I do hope that they don't seriously think that Larry King will be a 'great' moderator, but we will see.

And I will now take a couple of days off of this thread so that I can listen and watch the debate tomorrow night with a clear and open mind. Again, as in the past, I will record the debate from four different networks and form my opinions from there.

Today, on Fox Sports Sunday, both Governor Romney and President Oblameless, will be on as guests. That is at 12 noon Eastern time for those who want to watch.

And I am preparing my acceptance speech for November 7th, to accept each and every one of you who are willing to man-up and admit that I was right about this whole election thing. I am prepared to offer my congratulations to President Obama, if he should win, but I am sure that after the Debate tomorrow night I will be filling in Absentee Ballot and voting for Governor Mitt Romney, along with millions of other 'smart' people.

Good luck to those who actually read this contribution, and I am sorry for those who don't believe in 'the truth, fair and balanced' links that I have posted. And when it all comes down to November 7th, I will be waiting for you to apologize for being wrong in your beliefs that ObaMoa was going to win this by a 'landslide'. That is all for now.
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dvdjunkie wrote:Note to Super Aurora:I am an adult, I am a registered Democrat, and I am one of those "Undecided, but leaning towards Romney" people who is only looking for intelligent replies, and intelligent conversation about this upcoming election
Anyone reading and/or watching Fox News has no right to ask for intelligent conversation.

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dvdjunkie wrote:Note to Mayhem: I saw those same graphs and you mixed the Bush and Obama Unemployment rates. Bush's were down, and if you pay any attention to the Labor Department, there are over 22 million people out of work and the unemployment rate has been over 8% for the last couple of years. There is nothing good about Obama, I guess. No one has been able to tell me four things he did positively to affect their lives.
I didn't produce the graphs, someone else did. And yes, the unemployment rate has been over 8% for the last two years, aside from the last two months (PLEASE look at the scale of each graph, they are not the same from graph to graph!). What they DO show is that unemployment shot up massively in the last year of Bush Jr's "reign" as the economic mess truly hit, and Obama inherited the problem, never created it, and has tried to bring unemployment down (which it has slowly done over the last four years).

Try arguing with that. If you're saying the figures are wrong, then those are the official released figures. What else can you work with, and then accuse of being biased?
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