Cinderella III: A Twist in Time DVD Press Release/Discussion

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atlanticaunderthesea wrote:Disney Duster, I'm just in the process of doing some screencaps so we can compare all the different costumes, as there are quite a few changes!
What are screencaps? I keep reading about screencaps but don't know what they are. Thank you.
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I just now watched the 8 minute preview for the first time. It's beautiful, at least when compared to all the other sequels. And is it just me, or does Anastasia seem prettier and nicer? As for Cinderella herself, the only thing I didn't enjoy was the song. It wasn't my taste I guess. It was nice seeing the Prince's mother, too.
What are screencaps? I keep reading about screencaps but don't know what they are. Thank you.
Screencaps are pictures taken from a movie.

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wrestling_stat wrote:
atlanticaunderthesea wrote:Disney Duster, I'm just in the process of doing some screencaps so we can compare all the different costumes, as there are quite a few changes!
What are screencaps? I keep reading about screencaps but don't know what they are. Thank you.
It has become popular in the internet fandom culture to use screen captures (usually referred to as "screencaps") of movies and television shows in the creation of fanart, most commonly as icons for LiveJournal or MSN Messenger. Websites and LiveJournal communities have been created to distribute these screencaps. Static screen capture represents a snapshot of a PC screen at a given time stored into a file, operating system clipboard, or embedded into a document.



Thats form wikipedia. Basically, what I use is PowerCinema; this automatically plays when I put a DVD in my computer. Then, when the movie is playing, there is a little camera symbol at the bottom of the screen. I click that when I want to take a picture of what is happening in the movie! You can take as many as often as you like. This is useful when you are looking for tiny details. And this is called screen capping!

Does that explain it a bit?
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This film os horribleeeeeeeeeeee

I don´t understand how you can like this.......
But the cuality of animation is great


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Ok, this is going to be a big post, so I am very sorry! Its all to do with the strage costume changes of Lady Tremaine and her daughters. The screen-caps of Cinderella II are not very good for some reason, so sorry about that. But here we go!

This is Lady Tremaine's outfit at the start of the film, when Cinderella was still only a child:
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Here is the RED dress she wears for almost the entire film:
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This is the dress she wears to the Royal Ball:
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I'll do Cinderella II next.

Now, this dress appears to be the dress she wore to the ball in the original Cindy (I don't know why):
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This is from Cinderella III, and you can see that her dress has changed from red to a much darker purple, like her ball dress colour. Did they want to continue the colour from that? The colour of her broach and her ring have stayed the same as well:
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Drizella and Anastasia have not had so many changes though.

The original:
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Cindy II changed them a bit though. Anastasia's middle part of the dress has become lighter, along with the overall tone. Drizella has stayed the same:
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In Cindy III, Drizella's dress has gone from a beige colour to green, with a lighter coloured blue ribbon in her hair. Anastasia remains unchanged:
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Here is the poster for Cinderella III, which restores all of the original colours to all of the characters. Lady Tremaine is red, Drizella is beige/gold, Anastasia is dark purple, but only poor Cindy herself hasn't got her original colour - shes blue when it should really be silver!.
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Hope this shows how colours, though subtle, can change a lot, and it does happen.
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thank you very much for all the pictures
it is very kind of you to do this for us
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atlanticaunderthesea wrote:
wrestling_stat wrote: What are screencaps? I keep reading about screencaps but don't know what they are. Thank you.
It has become popular in the internet fandom culture to use screen captures (usually referred to as "screencaps") of movies and television shows in the creation of fanart, most commonly as icons for LiveJournal or MSN Messenger. Websites and LiveJournal communities have been created to distribute these screencaps. Static screen capture represents a snapshot of a PC screen at a given time stored into a file, operating system clipboard, or embedded into a document.



Thats form wikipedia. Basically, what I use is PowerCinema; this automatically plays when I put a DVD in my computer. Then, when the movie is playing, there is a little camera symbol at the bottom of the screen. I click that when I want to take a picture of what is happening in the movie! You can take as many as often as you like. This is useful when you are looking for tiny details. And this is called screen capping!

Does that explain it a bit?

Yes, thank you so much atlanticaunderthesea. And thank you Disney's Divintiy for your response too.
Disney Duster wrote:Why don't you get a screencapping program like PowerDVD? I heard they have a 30 day trial you can keep downloading if you don't want to buy it. I'm trying to get that myself.
Where on PowerDVD is there screencapping program? I have the program but don't see that action on it. Also I'm not sure what version I have too. I bought my computer through my college.

Thanks for all the help.
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Basically, wen u are watching a movie using powerdvd, where it says, at the bottom of the screen, fast forward, next chapter etc, there is a little camera symbol. just click that, then it will take a photo. when u stop the movie, they will ask you to save the images to a folder, then you are done!

Hope thats clear enough!
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atlanticaunderthesea wrote:Basically, wen u are watching a movie using powerdvd, where it says, at the bottom of the screen, fast forward, next chapter etc, there is a little camera symbol. just click that, then it will take a photo. when u stop the movie, they will ask you to save the images to a folder, then you are done!

Hope thats clear enough!
It does. I think that the version that I have, 5.9.2806, doesn't have it. If I had PowerDVD 7, I could get it. Thanks for the information on this topic.
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I preordered this from Best Buy yesterday! And I got $5 off any other Disney DVD, so I bought Cinderella: Platinum Edition (fitting isn't it?)
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lord-of-sith wrote:I preordered this from Best Buy yesterday! And I got $5 off any other Disney DVD, so I bought Cinderella: Platinum Edition (fitting isn't it?)
QUITE FITTING...but why didn't you own it before?

And I will get a free poster from Suncoast Video for my pre-order so :P .

kurtadisneyite...any more info on that larger Cinderella III book (is it the Cine-Manga?), or the reasons why the stepfamily's clothing changed colors?!

Thank you atlanticaunderthesea for those screencaps! But honestly I think the reason for the weird costume changes in Cinderella II were on the part of laziness. They didn't think things through. Lady Tremaine's purple outfit was meant for ball only, not just wearing around the house! Also, those screencaps show us just how much better III's animation is than II's! Thank you!
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Disney Duster wrote: QUITE FITTING...but why didn't you own it before?
Honestly, until just yesterday, I never got around to it (odd I know) but there were just other DVD's that came before this one. But I'm glad I finally got it.
Disney Duster wrote: Also, those screencaps show us just how much better III's animation is than II's! Thank you!
Holy crap! I didn't realize just how awful II's animation was until the compared screen caps! Just another reason to pretend II didn't happen.
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atlanticaunderthesea wrote:Basically, wen u are watching a movie using powerdvd, where it says, at the bottom of the screen, fast forward, next chapter etc, there is a little camera symbol. just click that, then it will take a photo. when u stop the movie, they will ask you to save the images to a folder, then you are done!

Hope thats clear enough!
Thanks for thar tip!! Finally I know how to take screencaps!!
It's really amazing how everyone is so excited about a DTV!! Finally, at least I think so, a decent sequel to one of the classics is being released and I might at least rent Cinderella III to see if I like it and then maybe even buy. It looks so good, and I absolutely loved what they showed us in the 8-minute preview!!
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I think that it’s a shame Disney fell-out with the talented "king of the twist" M. Night Shyamalan over the obviously superb (because its written by, directed by and stars M Knight) The Lady in the Water. I say this because M Night is the ideal screenwriter for a film which has the word "Twist" in the title!

Just imagine a real twist thanks to the magic mind of M Night!

I'd suggest something like Cinderella discovers that she isn't in fact in a mid-18th Century European country, but, is infact in a safe enclosure cut off from modern living. She discovers this when she has to get medicine for her blisters that she had received from wearing a glass slipper, and is hit by a car. In the car, she drifts in and out of consciousness and attains a higher truth realising she is nothing more than a physical manifestation of a European race memory which contextualised and been given physical form from the power of the storytelling myths that are European fairytales. At the same time, she realises her step-sisters are "ugly" and "mean" - the exact opposite of herself - because everything in the universe has an opposite: black and white; yin and yang; unbreakable and fragile. Meanwhile, she discovers that she herself is "dead" and has been throughout the film - thus her only communications have been with the Prince, who it turns out "can see dead people". In a daze she leaves the car and walks back along the road, back to the palace, stumbles, and eventually falls into a stream in a ditch at the side of the road, only for her ghost to dissolve. It turns out she could be defeated by water all the time!

Now, that's what I call an ending! How sad we won't see it.
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The larger C-III book will be the "big sister" to the small one now on sale, and has the full set of color artwork created to tell the story of C-III in print (the smaller book is a subset). The artists working on these books had the same model sheets and artwork the C-III feature people used, so they were able to be very faithful to the C-III movie.

Keep in mind color printing techniques will create some color differences between the two books, so you can appreciate the art two different ways!
Also Artwork the artists make goes through many hands before publication, and sometimes their work is changed before it gets to print.

And, keeping color "faithfulness" can be difficult as not even the original feature was consistent due to paint and exposure variations (the original was ink and painted on to nitrate/acetate cels, C-III is inked/painted by software (US Animation, to be specific).
Original cels from Cinderella I have suggest her balldress was grayish silver and white, and her work dress sleeves were gray with blue tinge.
The cel colors were deliberately muted because Technicolor 3-strip printing "enhanced" colors. But in the recently restored C- I movie, Cindy's work dress sleeves go from pale green to screaming green.
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This sequel looks muchs better then "Cinderella 2"!

It has a better story, better drawings... Actually in my point of view is one of the best Disney's direct-to-video sequels! I hope "The Little mermaid 3" will have the same quality!!!
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I'm sorry, but this is horrible....
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Wait, so kurtadisneyite, you own cels from the original Cinderella? Or reproductions of them? Sometimes in reproductions that don't copy the color accurately. But there has been a huge debate over what Cinderella's dress and hair should look like in the DVD, 'cause it looks so different from past releases of the movie.

Anyway, thank you so much for answering me about the book! Do you know when it's going to come out? I know you said "soon", but if there's a specific month or day, that would be great to know.

Also, I was thinking that maybe the reason for the color changes is this: In the original film, sometimes the colors would change, just like kurtadisneyite said the colors weren't always consistent! In one scene a color might be pretty pale, and in the next scene it's rather dark, etc. I may be crazy, but it seems to me that Drizella's dress turns very green toward the end of the movie, and her bow turns more blue. Perhaps the artists thought she changed into a green version of her gown, so they decided the whole family had the same gowns in different colors!
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Review posted here: http://www.ultimatedisney.com/cinderellaIII.html

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AwallaceUNC wrote:Review posted here: http://www.ultimatedisney.com/cinderellaIII.html

Interview with director Frank Nissen to come soon. Stay tuned to UD front page for more updates.

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Thanks, Aaron! Awesome review, and you've helped me make up my mind. I'm going to buy this release! I watched the 8 minute preview on Disney.com, this morning, and was impressed. Now, with your review, I have no doubt! I can't wait to watch this.

Waiting patiently for your interview with Frank Nissen!
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