Beauty and the Beast Discussion

[Disney Duster]

Well, I am glad that you found them and they brought you so much joy. That's a really great thing.




But now, they would fit better in another topic, their own, or a previously established one. Its certainly turned into something about all comics now...

[Super Aurora]

I'm gonna do an Escapay, which strangely he should have done himself...
Disney Comics

Anyway, Super Aurora, I'd really love to see any of the scans you are willing to put up. I bought the U.S. versions too, and was disappointed they stopped (and right before Cinderella!).

The art does not suck, it is really good, but the Disney characters manga-style do look a little unsettling and funky. I have to admit it makes me think Disney's art is better...I mean, it's more realistic. But they are two seperate styles, and the manga art is still quite good art, and beautiful. It's different, I'll just say I like Disney's art better.

Thanks for link. I'll post the rest of em up there.
As for art, well only characters that really have a slight manga tint in the disney characters is the princesses because obviously cause they are pretty girls and this series was aimed for little japanese girls. But other than that for that style, they did retain the actual look and feeling of the disney characters without going too much of a drastic change. I got the rest of the volume series so I can show you people the remaining of the series.

I'd like to note that only Snow White's and Aurora's world take place after the film. Aladdin's, BatB's, and Cinderella's is during the movie. Ariel's is pre-movie.

The story isn't all that wow. One could argue it's KH for girls(even though KH itself is a large girl fanbase...).

[Disney Duster]

Yea, I don't really like that they half-manga the princesses but not everyone else...at least hardly at all. I say everyone in it should have manga eyes...

Do you also know the translations of what they are saying and what is going on in the comic?

I really wanted to know what happened and finish the story after reading the manga...

[Super Aurora]

Yea, I don't really like that they half-manga the princesses but not everyone else...at least hardly at all. I say everyone in it should have manga eyes...

To be honest, it really wouldn't work well with some of the characters like Gaston, Lady Tramain and her daughters, Genie etc. I'm actually kinda glad they left it like that. Eh, whatever.

Do you also know the translations of what they are saying and what is going on in the comic?

I can get a grasp of what's going on in the story but unfortunately no I don't know Japanese therefore don't understand what's exactly being said but I kinda got what going on and shit. For example, If you look back at the pics i posted, you'll notice some new black hair girl there. I don't know what's her name. They never wrote it in english. All i know is that she has a thing for Rei, but that's about it.

I really wanted to know what happened and finish the story after reading the manga...

I'll talk more on it in the comic thread once I post up the scans.

[Rudy Matt]

LOL Why am I not surprise you would say that. After all to you, NOTHING can compare to the work created god known as Disney!

Could call a grammar check, but I think I get what you're saying. Princess and the Frog is fantastic, by the by.

[Super Aurora]

LOL Why am I not surprise you would say that. After all to you, NOTHING can compare to the work created god known as Disney!

Could call a grammar check, but I think I get what you're saying. Princess and the Frog is fantastic, by the by.

You're making fun of a minor grammar error I made, and yet you're talking about something that has absolutely nothing to do with this thread?


Princess and Frog thread is that way: http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... hp?t=26064

[Rudy Matt]

Could call a grammar check, but I think I get what you're saying. Princess and the Frog is fantastic, by the by.

You're making fun of a minor grammar error I made

Several, actually -- but, hey! Who's counting? Yakkity shmakity doo!

Go see Princess and the Frog. It is wonderful.

[Disney Duster]

I think he's saying that usually people accuse him of saying no animation can come close to as good as Disney once was, in Walt's days, but he thinks The Princess and the Frog was wonderful. It was pretty wonderful.

Anyway... Moderators can you please take out the bits about the comics? Escapay put those in a new thread. Or do you want to wait till Super Aurora puts his scans in a new thread?

Actually, I do want to wait for that. But I'm just alerting you for when it happens...

[Super Aurora]

Several, actually -- but, hey! Who's counting? Yakkity shmakity doo!

Go see Princess and the Frog. It is wonderful.

I already saw it. On the internet. High quality.

Anyway... Moderators can you please take out the bits about the comics? Escapay put those in a new thread. Or do you want to wait till Super Aurora puts his scans in a new thread?

Actually, I do want to wait for that. But I'm just alerting you for when it happens...

I'll make the thread soon. I haven't forgot. Scanning pages is time consuming so I just have to do it when I feel free. Once I make the thread, I'll delete my post here and take those image to the new thread.

[Rudy Matt]

Several, actually -- but, hey! Who's counting? Yakkity shmakity doo!

Thank you for sharing that that picture. Is that a close personal friend or confidant? What were you doing that caused them to flip you off? Or what were they doing? Sounds like a great story, can't wait to hear it.

[Sotiris]

I already saw it. On the internet. High quality.

You found the movie in high quality? Could you please send me the link? I could only find the cam-rip version of it and I refuse to watch it this way.

[Disney Duster]

Hey don't be a jerk to Super Aurora, Rudy Matt.

Super Aurora, you could put the scans you have so far, even just the ones you posted in this thread, and put them in a new thread, and then just keep adding to that thread when you get the chance.

[Super Aurora]

Thank you for sharing that that picture. Is that a close personal friend or confidant? What were you doing that caused them to flip you off? Or what were they doing? Sounds like a great story, can't wait to hear it.

Obvious troll is obvious.

You found the movie in high quality? Could you please send me the link? I could only find the cam-rip version of it and I refuse to watch it this way.

Actually I got link from 4chan. But I doubt it's there anymore. the low quality one you're talking about got taken down also.

Hey don't be a jerk to Super Aurora, Rudy Matt.

LOL it's no problem. I've always knew he's an asshole since I first read his posts in the past. He's one of those Internet Tough Guys.



Anyway, yea I'll make the thread soon so don't worry.

[Disney Duster]

Okay. Hey, you might want to...slightly change any...language you use. I know it's part of your personality, but you may want to just avoid those actual words on this forum, simply because you could get in trouble for it and I definately wouldn't want to see you have to leave the forum.

[Rudy Matt]

I may be wry and confrontational and opinionated (and apparently self-aware) but I never illegally download movies or post profane images on message boards. I don't dislike anime because Walt didn't create it. I admire many works of Japanese aniamtion. But as much as I admire many works of high-budget anime, there seems to be some sub-strata of low budget anime where characters only have 4 or 5 expressions. Seeing a work of character animation like Belle from Beauty and the Beast reduced to comparitively simplistic expressions is unsettling, annoying, and profoundly...craptacular. I know it's a different mindset and all in anime, but would it kill these guys to try more expressions outside of the four or five seen in the early days of Speed Racer?

[Sotiris]

But as much as I admire many works of high-budget anime, there seems to be some sub-strata of low budget anime where characters only have 4 or 5 expressions. I know it's a different mindset and all in anime, but would it kill these guys to try more expressions outside of the four or five seen in the early days of Speed Racer?

You've said it yourself, it's all about the budget. Cheaper anime do use limited expressions and stock footage but that's exactly because of the budget. The same happens with Western animation. You should not generalize anime since it's very diverse, serves a variety of genres and artistic styles and certainly a lot of them have characters that employ a wide spectrum of expressions and can evoke real emotions. You should really give it another chance. It's OK to prefer the Disney style of animation that the anime one - it's only a matter of preferences - but you cannot "accuse" anime in general as having characters with limited expressions because that does not correspond to reality.

[Rudy Matt]

So, it's not wrong to say it's unsettling and annoying to see Belle (animated by the great James Baxter) reduced to simplistic expressions seen in low budget anime?

[Super Aurora]

I may be wray and confrontational and opinionated (and apparently self-aware) but I never illegally download movies or post profane images on message boards. I don't dislike anime because Walt didn't create it. I admire many works of Japanese aniamtion. But as much as I admire many works of high-budget anime, there seems to be some sub-strata of low budget anime where characters only have 4 or 5 expressions. Seeing a work of character animation like Belle from Beauty and the Beast reduced to comparitively simplistic expressions is unsetling, annoying, and profoundly...craptacular. I know it's a different mindset and all in anime, but would it kill these guys to try more expressions outside of the four or five seen in the early days of Speed Racer?

Now that I've read this post, I apologize for my behavior towards you. I agree a lot with what you said here and that it is very true. I must of mistook what you meant by "crap".

Again sorry for rude behavior at you.

[Sotiris]

So, it's not wrong to say it's unsettling and annoying to see Belle (animated by the great James Baxter) reduced to simplistic expressions seen in low budget anime?

No. But instead of just anime this would apply for all low budget animation. Have you seen the animation done in other American animated Beauty and the Beast versions? (like Jetlag or Golden films)

[Rudy Matt]

So, it's not wrong to say it's unsettling and annoying to see Belle (animated by the great James Baxter) reduced to simplistic expressions seen in low budget anime?

No. But instead of just anime this would apply for all low budget animation. Have you seen the animation done in other American animated Beauty and the Beast versions? (like Jetlag or Golden films)

No, because the trailers alone made me want to claw my own eyes out. But I agree with you - the same principle applies to bad American animation the same way it applies to low budget anime.