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The Sword in the Stone:

First VHS:
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Classics VHS:
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Masterpiece VHS:
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Gold Collection DVD:
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45th Anniversary DVD:
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50th Anniversary Blu-ray:
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Here are also a couple of international covers:

UK VHS. On some places it says it's from 1986 and on others that it's from 1995. I think it's probably from 1986, but was reissued in 1995.

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Spanish VHS from 1992. This one is like the Classics VHS from the US, but it includes Merlin in the cover (in purple clothes!). I guess they probably added him, because in Spain his name is in the title. The movie's called Merlin, the Enchanter here.

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My favorite has always been the 45th Anniversary! I love how Merlin’s at the top with Archimedes and flying books everywhere, plus the sword being held up instead of in the stone. I love the boxset that came with that, too, (although I think you can buy the boxset with the 50th Anniversary version on the DMC as well…?).

The upwards pov shot of the sword being drawn out that they tried for 50th Anniversary and Gold Collection covers is nice in theory, but since Disney covers are very often poorly drawn, that was way too ambitious. They look horrible. The classics VHS and Masterpiece DVD cover is simplistic, but effective; I like that they included Merlin for the Spanish VHS version, D82. The UK VHS is nice, too, even if the characters are all slightly off. At least they tried to include more characters, like Kay and Ector.* I especially love that they used alternate transformations of Mim and Arthur. It is funny that Mim isn’t on more of the covers considering the wizard duel is the part most people remember most fondly. I think I remember her and Merlin having a “fight” scene on the back cover of Classics VHS at least (Merlin’s robes look purple there, too, like on the Spanish VHS). I’ve never seen that first VHS cover before. It looks like the cover for a vinyl record.

I just hope the Disney+ restoration is released with a decent cover like the 45th's one day before Disney gives up physical media altogether. :( The covers could be so exciting what with the sword-pulling scene; Mim, Wart, and Merlin in multiple forms; and flying dishes, books, and so on.
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Is this the first non-package film that hasn't had many covers and releases? Which is ironic because it was one of the first Disney films to be released on VHS on account of being considered a b-title.

I love all the American VHS covers. Especially the first one with that almost magical wave of energy as Wart pulls out the Sword. And the rest of the US VHS covers are the classic, iconic image which can't be beaten, however I'm especially partial to how the Spanish VHS cover added Merlin to the scene. I quite like that.

I'm less keen on the Gold Edition DVD and Blu-Ray covers. The angles are odd and Wart looks really off-model.
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I think the covers for The Sword and the Stone are quite decent in general. My favorites are the Classics and Masterpiece VHSs. They're quite simple, but are the ones that show that key moment in the movie and the main character more accurately. Though I like that Wart is more centered in the Masterpiece Edition, I prefer the Classics VHS because you can see the beams of light better there. I like the Spanish version too. Merlin is also quite on-model there despite being dressed in purple. But one thing I don't completely like about this cover and some of the others is that it looks as if Merlin was helping Wart pulling out the sword with his magic, and that's not what happens in the film. Wart was able to do it because he was destined to be king. It was "a miracle ordained by Heaven" as they say in the movie and Merlin's magic had nothing to do with it in that case. I don't mind it too much, though, because Wart wouldn't have gotten there without Merlin and he's the one who throughout the story prepares him for that moment with the help of his magic, so I guess him appearing in the scene can also be interpreted that way.

My third favorite is probably the 45th Anniversary DVD, but the 50th Anniversary Blu-ray is not bad either. I like that they tried different points of views of the sword scene for that one and the Gold Collection DVD, and though I have the same problem with Merlin here too, his reflection in the sword is actually quite a cool detail. The Gold Collection DVD is also fine, but Wart doesn't look very on-model there.
Disney's Divinity wrote:It is funny that Mim isn’t on more of the covers considering the wizard duel is the part most people remember most fondly. I think I remember her and Merlin having a “fight” scene on the back cover of Classics VHS at least (Merlin’s robes look purple there, too, like on the Spanish VHS).
Yes, it's true; she's usually relegated to the back. By the way, the back cover you described is the same the Spanish VHS has.
Disney's Divinity wrote:I’ve never seen that first VHS cover before. It looks like the cover for a vinyl record.
I hadn't seen it before either. Wart's pose is quite cool there. I don't completely like how he looks though, but the cover is actually not badly drawn.
JeanGreyForever wrote:Is this the first non-package film that hasn't had many covers and releases? Which is ironic because it was one of the first Disney films to be released on VHS on account of being considered a b-title.
Yes, I think so. The Jungle Book will have many more, but after that there'll be several classics with few covers as well.
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My favorite is the Classics VHS. Simple and, well, classic. My favorite almost was the 45th Anniversary Blu-ray, but that one completely gives away that he removes the sword. I know, who doesn't know that this happens? I just don't like that they show it in the two covers. The ones that are different angles you can tell they did that way just because they ran out of ways to show the scene, but the 50th is my third favorite. I love Merlin's reflection. The UK VHS is really bad. It has characters in alternate versions of themselves in the same plane of existence!!!

Marce82, ok, sorry that I wasn't sure you got the different planes thing, but even if characters are touching, (more accurately, they are probably overlapping) they can be in different planes. That's how it is on that Dalmatians cover.
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Hey Disney Duster,

No need for apologies, the whole thing here is to exchange ideas! All in a friendly way.

But no, I wasn't talking about overlapping, or even two elements touching. If you look at the UK blu ray cover, one of the puppies has it's paw on one of the parents' chest. This shows they are clearly interacting, so it implies they exist in the same space (even if they are floating above the title). And all this matters... the less thought/care that goes into a piece of artwork, the worse the result (this applies to the movies as well... disney movies ...particularly 2d ones... are considered high quality animation because care goes into making sure each frame looks like a piece of art)

Disney is a quality company... they should care about what product they put out. Very often, people can tell when something looks wrong... maybe they can't tell WHY. But they can tell it's not right.
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Now about TSITS... yes, it hasn't had that many covers, cause it never goes in the vault. So they keep the same video format out for long stretches. Here we go!

1) Classic VHS: Simple. To the point. It shows the sword in the title, it shows that Wart is destined for greatness. Beautifully rendered, Wart is on model (cause it is a frame taken directly from the film). Love the shaft of light. Great cover.

2) Masterpiece collection: same as above, but why would they remove the shaft of light??

3) Spanish VHS: Same as Classics VHS... I kinda like the inclusion of Merlin... he is pretty on model and the anatomy is pretty good. BUT.... I share D82's objections to the logic of Merlin using his magic...

4) Gold Collection: it's interesting. They are trying to recreate the Classics VHS pose from another angle. And they are semi-successful at it. The foreshortening of the left arm is a little off.... the rendering is a little sloppy. Kinda lame that they included random townspeople on the cover....

5) First VHS: I appreciate that it's a dynamic pose, and that it has the texture of a painting, which is cool and unusual. But the pose makes no sense (think about how he would have pulled the sword... and how he would have landed on this particular pose). He has a young woman's hips, and thick legs (Wart is supposed to be scrawny), and has fingers like a powerlifter. Off model face... crooked mouth, eyes looking in different directions... sigh. They tried.

6) UK VHS: I like the overall composition. I like the idea of more of the film's characters being on the cover, and the background looks good. The execution overall is pretty poor... Merlin is way off model, and most character's look like a half-baked tracing of a better drawing. Kay looks like he is looking at a hole in the ground... and I HATE the transformation animals in the front (sorry Disney Divinity!). Again.... logic: if Wart is there in human form, he can't also be a squirrel in the same space. It's like they are trying to make it seem like there are more characters than there actually are in this film.


It's a tie for the bottom two: 45th and 50th Anniversaries.

50th: why is the character being lit from underneath??? Wart is off model. And look at his boot: is he standing on the anvil?? The scale is way off. Merlin is very on model.... but it doesn't feel like a reflection to me. Specially cause they aren't respecting the dent on the edge of the blade of the sword. Half of the blade is one angle, the other half is another. Merlin is being reflected as if it was all flat... which, to me, makes it look like he is trapped in a glass cube or something.

45th: sorry again, Disney Divinity. Seems we have very different criteria for this stuff. Merlin is way off model (that mustache... those EYEBROWS). Wart's hands are clasped too tightly to be holding the sword's thick handle. Wart looks ok... so do Ector and Kay (though, once again, they look like they are in a different plane, way too low and big... and they are clearly intended to be farther away looking at the sword). But my main issue here is the dark background, the font and that "shield" the title is in. It makes it look like this is some kind of sword-and-sorcery adventure film... and this is certainly not that.

I really think the Classics VHS cover is wonderful. Understated. Beautiful
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Disney Duster wrote:My favorite almost was the 45th Anniversary Blu-ray, but that one completely gives away that he removes the sword. I know, who doesn't know that this happens? I just don't like that they show it in the two covers.
I hadn't thought of that. You're right, both the 45th Anniversary Blu-ray and the first VHS reveal the ending. Though the trailers always show that famous moment too, so it's not easy for people who haven't seen the film not to get spoiled.
Marce82 wrote:50th: why is the character being lit from underneath??? Wart is off model. And look at his boot: is he standing on the anvil?? The scale is way off. Merlin is very on model.... but it doesn't feel like a reflection to me. Specially cause they aren't respecting the dent on the edge of the blade of the sword. Half of the blade is one angle, the other half is another. Merlin is being reflected as if it was all flat... which, to me, makes it look like he is trapped in a glass cube or something.
Maybe they mean the sword and its magic is what lights up Wart from underneath? But you're right, the light doesn't make much sense. As for Merlin's reflection in the sword, I also agree it's not completely realistic, but at least there's an attempt to show that the two sides of the blade don't reflect exactly the same thing, as Merlin's hat doesn't continue on the left side. Anyway, I agree with you. You have a really good eye for perspectives, anatomy and all these things related to drawing. As always, I hadn't noticed many of the flaws before you pointed them out.
Disney's Divinity wrote:My favorite has always been the 45th Anniversary! I love how Merlin’s at the top with Archimedes and flying books everywhere, plus the sword being held up instead of in the stone. I love the boxset that came with that, too, (although I think you can buy the boxset with the 50th Anniversary version on the DMC as well…?).
I guess this is the box set you mentioned, right? I hadn't seen it before. It's not like the book that opens the film, but it's quite nice. And yes, the same set was also released with the 50th Anniversary Blu-ray.

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While I was searching for these covers, I also found this poster that shows an extended version of the drawing from the first VHS:

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And also this concept art for the Gold Collection DVD. I think Wart looks better there than in the final cover.

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D82 wrote:
Disney Duster wrote:My favorite almost was the 45th Anniversary Blu-ray, but that one completely gives away that he removes the sword. I know, who doesn't know that this happens? I just don't like that they show it in the two covers.
I hadn't thought of that. You're right, both the 45th Anniversary Blu-ray and the first VHS reveal the ending. Though the trailers always show that famous moment too, so it's not easy for people who haven't seen the film not to get spoiled.
I mean, with this logic, about half the Disney covers would be "spoilers". The Sleeping Beauty covers would "spoil" that Phillip manages to beat Maleficent and reach Aurora and the Cinderella covers would "spoil" that against all odds, she manages to make it to the ball.
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JeanGreyForever wrote:I mean, with this logic, about half the Disney covers would be "spoilers". The Sleeping Beauty covers would "spoil" that Phillip manages to beat Maleficent and reach Aurora and the Cinderella covers would "spoil" that against all odds, she manages to make it to the ball.
Yeah, it's true. Well, I guess it's not really a spoiler that a Disney movie has a happy ending. But I understand Disney Duster; at least they could avoid showing the very ending of the movie.
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Marce82, I was looking at the wrong cover, yes in the Blu-ray cover the puppy touching her looks weird!

JeanGreyForever, those covers spoil that Aurora might get awakened, and that Cinderella might get to live with the Prince, but they don't spoil the ending of the movie.
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I mean, if Phillip's face is an inch above Aurora's, likely he's going to kiss her and unless the film is Maleficent, she's definitely going to wake up from that kiss lol.

I think a lot of people who watch The Sword in the Stone for the first time will likely assume that Wart pulling the sword won't be from the end of the film but midway or 3/4 of the film and the rest is him dealing with the repercussions. And just because he lifts the sword doesn't necessarily mean he will become king so viewers would think there are more obstacles to come like the people not accepting him or some dastardly figure opposing him.
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Marce82 wrote:Now about TSITS... yes, it hasn't had that many covers, cause it never goes in the vault. So they keep the same video format out for long stretches. Here we go!



4) Gold Collection: it's interesting. They are trying to recreate the Classics VHS pose from another angle. And they are semi-successful at it. The foreshortening of the left arm is a little off.... the rendering is a little sloppy. Kinda lame that they included random townspeople on the cover....
Two of the townspeople are Sir Ector and Kay.
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Thank you for posting those images, D82. I like that the extended picture of the first VHS' cover even includes the wolf.

Yes, Marce82, we do disagree, but that's fine. Everyone has their own tastes.

We ended up with more posts about TSitS than I expected considering nobody seemed to care much about Dalmatians. I guess only the princess films will really get the conversation going.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:Thank you for posting those images, D82. I like that the extended picture of the first VHS' cover even includes the wolf.

Yes, Marce82, we do disagree, but that's fine. Everyone has their own tastes.

We ended up with more posts about TSitS than I expected considering nobody seemed to care much about Dalmatians. I guess only the princess films will really get the conversation going.
Not all, but The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast - sure. I personally have a lot to say on these.
For me The Sword in the Stone is a lot like 101 Dalmatians. The covers look very similar, and I agree with you I like the 45th anniversary the best along with the Classics VHS.
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The Sword in the stone French "villains" slipcover:
https://www.trzcacak.rs/imgm/hTboJxb_pi ... ollection/

The Sword in the stone UK "heroes" slipcover (no villains slipcover of this movie exist in the UK) :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sword-Stone-DV ... B0017QMXHE
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DisneyBluLife wrote:The Sword in the stone French "villains" slipcover:
https://www.trzcacak.rs/imgm/hTboJxb_pi ... ollection/

The Sword in the stone UK "heroes" slipcover (no villains slipcover of this movie exist in the UK) :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sword-Stone-DV ... B0017QMXHE
The heroes slipcover is one of the better ones I've seen so far. It's not just generic clipart and the specific piece they used really works as a standalone cover here even with the monochromatic background.
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JeanGreyForever wrote:
DisneyBluLife wrote:The Sword in the stone French "villains" slipcover:
https://www.trzcacak.rs/imgm/hTboJxb_pi ... ollection/

The Sword in the stone UK "heroes" slipcover (no villains slipcover of this movie exist in the UK) :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sword-Stone-DV ... B0017QMXHE
The heroes slipcover is one of the better ones I've seen so far. It's not just generic clipart and the specific piece they used really works as a standalone cover here even with the monochromatic background.
I agree. And I had never seen that Madam Mim cover before. She doesn't look bad either.
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D82: thanks again for the kind words! I am an illustrator myself, so I tend to pay attention to these things. And good catch about Merlin's hat in the reflection... the arm does look like it connects. But in a true reflection, the far side would reflect something totally different. Oh well... nice idea on their part.

AND THANKS FOR POSTING THAT EXTENSION OF THE ORIGINAL COVER AND DRAFT FOR THE GOLD COLLECTION!!! I had never seen those before!!! Is there a way to see them in higher resolution??

About that extended cover for the original vhs... execution may not be perfect... but GREAT perspective, wonderful background and lighting.

As for the draft for the Gold collection: that rough looks pretty good actually. It is not the first time I have seen a cover get messed up by the painter/shader, based on a very good drawing (another example coming when we get to Beauty/Beast).

And DisneyBluLife: c'mon... give me a little credit here. I know two of them are Sir Ector and Kay... but the others are random knights from the tournament at the end.

As for spoilers... I see Disney movies a little like romantic comedies. We all kinda know how they will end, but it's about enjoying the ride to that end that counts. So I don't mind spoilers on covers.






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