Peter Pan & Wendy (Live-Action)

[Disney Duster]

The girls being included in Pleasure Island and The Lost Boys is woke bull****. Thank God this film won't be remembered in a year or so.

[Disney's Divinity]

For me, the always racebending the redheaded characters was the annoying thing (talking about Pan here). I'm not looking forward to this one overall even though I do think the poster is good. There have been so many PP films at this point, and I've never been that attached to PP as other fairy tale / fantasy stories.

The synopsis described the film as POTC-esque. While I doubt that will be true, I do think they pulled off that feeling with the poster at least.

[Disney Duster]

Oh, yeah we lost another redhead! I do like the poster and yeah, it's kinda POTC-feeling, true.

[carolinakid]

Does anyone know the ethnicity of the actor playing Peter Pan? I’m not good at these things, but he possibly could be Latino, or even south Asian. I could picture him as Mowgli in the parks.

[D82]

Two upcoming books based on the movie are listed on Amazon. The first one is a novelization of the film and the second an original story set in its world centered on Tiger Lily. The first synopsis refers to her as "the powerful Tiger Lily" and the second, which is most likely a prequel, says she has always wanted to be a leader. I wonder if she'll be her tribe's chief in this version. It's also interesting that it says she and her community can choose whether to grow up or not.

Peter Pan & Wendy Junior Novelization

Fly away on a journey to Neverland with this novelization of the Walt Disney Studios live action film Peter Pan & Wendy, coming to Disney+.

Wendy Darling isn’t sure she’s ready to grow up. Growing up means no more nights in the nursery, sharing stories about the heroic Peter Pan with her younger brothers, John and Michael. Then, to Wendy’s surprise, Peter Pan himself appears, alongside his fairy companion Tinker Bell--and the pair whisks the children off to Neverland, a magical place where no one has to grow up.

Once in Neverland, the children plunge headfirst into adventure, encountering Peter’s rival, Captain Hook, and his dangerous pirate crew. But as they team up with Peter’s loyal Lost Boys and the powerful Tiger Lily to match wits and swords with Hook, Wendy wonders if there is more to Peter’s story--and growing up--than she first imagined . . . and if uncovering those secrets might be the key to saving Neverland and finding herself.

This thrilling novelization of Peter Pan & Wendy also includes a photo insert featuring images from the film!

Source: https://www.amazon.com/Elizabeth-Rudnic ... ref=sr_1_3

Tiger Lily and the Secret Treasure of Neverland

Tiger Lily and her community, the Indigenous people of Neverland, possess a unique ability: they can choose to grow up. But for now, Tiger Lily is enjoying being thirteen, spending time with her grandmother and exploring alongside her horse and her friends.

Then Tiger Lily uncovers a plot by two of Captain Hook’s pirates, who are searching for a mysterious, powerful treasure. Determined to protect Neverland, Tiger Lily sets out on a very grown-up mission: find the treasure first, and keep it out of the pirates’ reckless hands.

As her journey takes her from Mermaid Lagoon to the Lost Boys’ secret fort and beyond, Tiger Lily will need to become the brave leader she has always wanted to be. Can she save her home and people she loves before it’s too late?

Set in the world of Disney+’s upcoming live-action film Peter Pan & Wendy, this original story from acclaimed author Cherie Dimaline weaves a tale of Tiger Lily as you’ve never seen her before.

Source: https://www.amazon.com/Cherie-Dimaline/ ... ref=sr_1_3

[Sotiris]

The ability of the Indigenous people to choose to grow up or not is stupid and unnecessary.

[DisneyFan09]

So the Native Americans are going to be a part of this remake as well? Well, let`s hope they`ll get a different treatment than they did in their animated predecessor. Now that Disney learned the backlash of misrepresenting them, regardless of good intentions (*cough, Pocahontas, cough*)

[carolinakid]

I don’t think you can DO Peter Pan without the Indians and Princess Tiger Lily.
I will miss What Made the Red Man Red? though. It’s one of Disney’s catchiest songs and I love Tiger Lily’s dance on the drum.
Is Peter Pan and Wendy a musical?

[Sotiris]

Is Peter Pan and Wendy a musical?

We don't know yet, but probably not. I think if any of the songs were retained in the remake, we would have heard about it by now. Maybe there will be a couple of new songs like in the Pete's Dragon remake, given it's by the same director.

[singerguy04]

Something that's kind of catching my eye is that beyond saying they are Indigenous people, it doesn't mean they're being represented as American Indigenous people's like in the animated film. I'm not familiar enough with the source material to say, but did Disney portray them as "American Indians" an artistic choice or is that what the original play calls for? Maybe in this version they are just indigenous to Neverland? Not unlike saying Wakandans are indigenous to Wakanda.

[Farerb]

They are Native Americans in the original play as well, that wasn't invented by Disney.

[D82]

Is Peter Pan and Wendy a musical?

We don't know yet, but probably not. I think if any of the songs were retained in the remake, we would have heard about it by now. Maybe there will be a couple of new songs like in the Pete's Dragon remake, given it's by the same director.

I too wondered whether or not it would be a musical recently. I don't know why I hadn't thought about it before. I don't think it has been discussed here until now either. I guess you're right we would've heard about it by now if it was, Sotiris. Plus, judging by the director's words and the images of the movie we've seen, it doesn't seem the remake will stick too close to the original. If it indeed isn't a musical, it'd be the first Disney remake since Mulan not to include the songs from the original. I wonder if there'll be any backlash to that, but maybe Peter Pan's songs are not that iconic or popular compared to those of other Disney classics. They may include one or two in the credits, though. They did make a new version of "Candle in the Water" for Pete's Dragon, though I think it was only featured in the soundtrack and not in the film itself.

The ability of the Indigenous people to choose to grow up or not is stupid and unnecessary.

It doesn't sound like a good idea to me either. It's possible it's only part of the prequel novel and not the film itself, though.

[singerguy04]

They are Native Americans in the original play as well, that wasn't invented by Disney.

That's what I was wondering, I know Disney didn't invent the story. I didn't know whether or not Disney chose what type of people were represented.

[carolinakid]

You Can Fly is probably the most popular and iconic song from the 1953 film. You Can Fly is heard quite often in the parks.

[Vlad]

The film does have a POTC quality to it, based on the plot and the poster they've shown so far. I don't think it will be a musical, but most likely, the animated film's songs will be heard in the score, like in Mulan. For example, when they fly off to Neverland, the "You Can Fly" melody will be heard in the score.

[Sotiris]

They may include one or two in the credits, though. They did make a new version of "Candle in the Water" for Pete's Dragon, though I think it was only featured in the soundtrack and not in the film itself.

If they end up producing a rendition of one of the songs from the original, either for the end credits or the soundtrack, The Second Star to the Right is the most likely candidate. But I'm not holding my breath, even for that. This particular director doesn't seem to care about or respect the original films he's remaking.

You Can Fly is probably the most popular and iconic song from the 1953 film. You Can Fly is heard quite often in the parks.

I would say The Second Star to the Right is the most popular one given it's the song most often covered from the movie.

[DisneyFan09]

They are Native Americans in the original play as well, that wasn't invented by Disney.

True.

And regarding my comment about the Natives, I just wanted to clarify that I have nothing against them being a part of the remake. On the contrary, I would`ve rather liked that. But considering the controversy that both Peter Pan and Pocahontas got for their representations of Native American people, it`s still surprising that they`re going to be a part of it. After all, there have been speculations about the scrutiny being a reason for why they weren`t in Return to Neverland (despite how it`s somewhat irrelevant for being a cheapquel).

[D82]

You Can Fly is probably the most popular and iconic song from the 1953 film. You Can Fly is heard quite often in the parks.

I would say The Second Star to the Right is the most popular one given it's the song most often covered from the movie.

Yes, I think those two are the most popular ones. It's true "The Second Star to the Right" is most likely the most covered one, but "You Can Fly" is part of one of the most iconic moments in the film; Peter and the kids flying over London, so that probably helps. I, for one, when I think of Peter Pan's songs, that's the first one that comes to mind, so I'm not sure which one's more popular. Although, "The Second Star to the Right" is perhaps the most well-regarded.

Personally, I don't consider Peter Pan among the Disney classics with best songs, but I think they're not bad either. When I was a child my favorite was "Following the Leader." I always tended to prefer the most cheerful songs. I still do in many cases, but my favorites from the film are now "The Second Star to the Right" and "Your Mother and Mine." I think I like the former a little more, but the latter is such a beautiful tribute to mothers and I love the lyrics, especially verses like:

What makes mothers all that they are
Might as well ask, "What makes a star."

If they end up producing a rendition of one of the songs from the original, either for the end credits or the soundtrack, The Second Star to the Right is the most likely candidate. But I'm not holding my breath, even for that. This particular director doesn't seem to care about or respect the original films he's remaking.

I didn't get the sense he was a big fan of the animated film by the way he spoke about it at D23, though maybe I'm wrong. But I don't think not including the songs or not sticking close to the original films necessarily means not to respect them. I suspect Tim Burton's remakes, for example, are not too faithful versions precisely because he respects them more than others and doesn't want to "mess" with them too much.

I don't think "Pete's Dragon" is Disney's best remake, but to me is a perfect example of how remakes should be: keeping the basic story elements, but making something quite different with them, which from my point of view, results in more interesting films that feel like they have more of a reason to exist and are less offensive to the originals.

I actually prefer when the remakes don't keep the original songs for the reason I just mentioned. But at the same time, the musical ones tend to include some new songs and that's one of the few things I enjoy from these films, so I don't mind it that much anymore. However, I'm not a big fan of them having very different composers writing the new songs in the case of the old films, like they did with Lady and the Tramp and Pinocchio, or will do with Snow White.

[Disney's Divinity]

The film does have a POTC quality to it, based on the plot and the poster they've shown so far.

I think they channel POTC with the poster, too. I'm skeptical they'll manage it with the film itself though.

I like that the Indigenous people can "choose" to grow up, I think that could be an interesting detail. I mean, in the animated film there are adult Native Americans, adult mermaids, and there's also the pirates who are older men. Only the Lost Boys don't grow up because of Peter Pan. I think that's actually a good change they could make, having an older Tiger Lily who is a Chieftainess and peaceful force opposite Captain Hook and the pirates being more destructive, with Peter Pan and the Lost Boys in the middle and not really aligned with anyone and more of an anarchic / chaotic force.

I was never really fond of any of the songs in this movie--this might be blasphemy, but I'd say I'm more of a fan of "I'll Try" than anything from the original (and I don't even like Return to Neverland much at all)--but I'd prefer if "You Can Fly! x3," "Second Star to the Right," and "Yo Ho (A Pirate's Life)!" were in this. I actually like "Your Mother and Mine" more than those three, but it's not as remembered as they are, I imagine. The music here--much like in films like Hercules, Tarzan, Pinocchio, etc.--helps to differentiate these live-action Disney films from other live-action adaptations that are constantly coming out that generate little interest. People like the Disney versions of the stories more than a random adaptation, and the songs being present is more likely to draw audiences in, imo. Without them, I don't think this film stands a chance. There are so many live-action films of Peter Pan that they all sort of blend together into a bland blob.

[D82]

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