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Prince Edward wrote:Pixar are clearly grabbing some easy cash with all the sequels lately. All the talk about how Pixar supposedly are the studio that are being creative and doing new stuff sounds a bit hypocritical. It seems to me that after Pixar made the ideas they had from the start into movies, they have been struggling a bit to come up with new stories. All the talk about Lasseter being the new Messiah of animation is highly overrated. And Lasseter constantly talking about how much Pixar are teaching Disney about animation and storytelling is irritating to say the least. Toy Story 4 and Cars 3 = $$$ is the new guideline at Pixar animation studios.
Well said.

Lasseter is indeed overrated and despite he's done much good for Disney, he's still not the solely Messiah of animation nor even the new Walt, which many people claim him to be. He has a good eye for a story and quality, but not everything he touches is gold. After all there were other people than him that are equally important to animation and personally I've find several of the so-called "Golden Age" films of Pixar highly overrated.

People are forgetting that Disney were the studio that launched Pixar in the first place and they helped Pixar into the spotlight. And even then, Disney had others who helped them into the Golden Age (Katzenberg, Schneider, Roy Disney, Eisner). Although Pixar shall have credit for expanding their ideas, I still find them inferior to Disney's films. Pixar's films connected with audiences more, but personally I thought Disney expanded their horizons as well, although most of their films from 2000-2004 weren't huge successes.

I guess Pixar has a better reputation because each of their films pre-"Cars 2" were box office hits and actually had a certain universal appeal, while Disney were getting repetive. However, it's unfair that Lasseter is seen as the only, flawless saviour to Disney, while he's only just a human being, who makes mistakes like everybody else.
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What the BH6 cast and crew have to say about TS4:
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Tim Allen & Rashida Jones Chat About 'Toy Story 4' on 'The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon'
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Galyn Susman, the producer of Toy Story 4, shares the following tidbit.
"As you might expect, I'm not really in a position to talk about Toy Story 4 right now. What I can say is that -- while I was ready to say goodbye to these characters at the end of Toy Story 3 -- the story that was pitched to me for the next feature-length installment of this series was so smart and so strong that I understood immediately why John wanted to revisit the world of these characters," Susman enthused. "Beyond that, what else can I say about Toy Story 4 ? Well, if people go to see this new Pixar movie in 2 & 1/2 years, they might see a new toy."
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Ummm....what?
In an interview for Disney Latino, Morris said although Toy Story 4 picks up after Toy Story 3 left off, it isn’t a continuation of the earlier trilogy. (Note: All quotes below have been translated by Google from Spanish to English, and then edited for clarity by me.) He explained:

The third movie ended in a beautiful way and completed a trilogy. I think this movie is not part of this trilogy. It is a separate story, which in turn I do not know if will be continued. Never begin a project with that in mind.

So what will this separate story be, exactly? Morris offered some vague hints:

It is not a continuation of the end of the story of Toy Story 3. Temporarily it is, but it will be a love story. It will be a romantic comedy. It will not put much focus on the interaction between the characters and children. I think it will be a very good movie.

The romcom angle is a new one for the franchise, but it’s the other reveal that really sets Toy Story 4 apart from previous installments. Woody and Andy’s evolving relationship was a crucial element of the first three Toy Story films. The next film sounds more in the vein of the shorts and specials, in which the toys are mostly left to their own devices.

Morris stated the film is currently around the position of being in its third table read, and says the script is “evolving very well.” He also reiterated that they aren’t making Toy Story 4 for the money, but because they came up with an “irresistible” idea. “The decision to make a second or third [installment] entirely depends on how passionate the director of the project is,” he said.
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This news...actually makes me feel better.
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I'm kinda hoping it's about Woody and the gang going on a quest to find Bo Peep. I'm not sure there's a romantic comedy in that, but it could certainly be romantic.
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I don't quite understand what the article meant…it is a continuation of the shorts, yes ? But more romcom based than previous films ?
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The article I read leads me to believe that Buzz and Woody might be skipping Toy Story 4 altogether

http://comicbook.com/2015/03/05/toy-sto ... ill-be-a-/
When Disney and Pixar announced plans for Toy Story 4 last year, many fans protested the decision, arguing that the initial trilogy of films told a complete and satisfying tale.

Well, it looks like those protesters may be getting their way with the upcoming Toy Story installment. In a recent interview, Pixar President Jim Morris revealed that the studios’ next toy-faring adventure would, at best, only have tertiary ties to the original trilogy starring Buzz Lightyear and Woody.

As Morris stated, Pixar’s current plan for Toy Story 4 is to make a romantic comedy that’s light on the human-to-toy interactions, as well as any direct links to the previous Toy Stories.

“It is not a continuation of the end of the story of Toy Story 3,” Morris told Disney Latino. “The third movie was over in a beautiful way and completed a trilogy.”

Morris further revealed that the fourth installments story would not launch a new story arc or franchise. Instead, he hopes to contain it to a standalone story, for now at least.

But, Morris insinuated that development is still very fluid at this point, and plans could still change. So, who knows, maybe this isn’t the end of Buzz and Woody after all.

Toy Story 4 hits theaters on June 16, 2017.
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So, without the original cast, this whole idea sounds basically like "lets make another billion+ dollars by slapping a beloved brand name onto a generic story we grabbed out of the air".

Pixar could make it work without Buzz and Woody, (after all, developing original characters is probably their story team's strong suit) but it sounds very forced. I'm just scared that the film will lack passion or creative effort if they're only using the name and the "toys coming alive" idea for easy money. :huh:
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Atlantica wrote:It is a continuation of the shorts, yes? But more romcom based than previous films?
That's what I understood. In other news, Josh Cooley has been named co-director of Toy Story 4.
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Thank you for clarifying for me. Just seemed like such a strange and vague write up I wasn't so sure !!
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The sequel won't have a subtitle as some had speculated and will just be called "Toy Story 4". No surprise there. Logo taken from the Disney presentation at CinemaCon.

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Some news regarding the film:
Toy Story 4, for example, came about because film-makers Andrew Stanton and John Lasseter — who’s also the chief creative officer at Pixar, “came up with a new idea”, said Morris. “We all felt when we finished Toy Story 3 (that) it was a perfect trilogy, you know, ‘let’s consider that complete’. Toy Story 4 (has) the same ideas and is set in the same world, but it has a different story thread, with a love story more that’s internal to the characters — and not so much the interaction with the outside world,” he said, adding: “I kind of like leaving that original trilogy alone.”
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We don't know that. These initial logos tend to change, some more drastically than others. They didn't keep the good dinosaur's initial title "the untitled pixar movie about dinosaurs" did they? Or a bugs life's "bugs". They may just not be ready to reveal the final title yet.

By the way, kinda off topic but have you guys seen this new Woody coming out? Its insanely accurate. Not to mention insanely expensive. I just wish it didn't have to have that seam on the head, because otherwise its perfect.
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Sotiris wrote:The sequel won't have a subtitle as some had speculated and will just be called "Toy Story 4". No surprise there. Logo taken from the Disney presentation at CinemaCon.

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Some news regarding the film:
Toy Story 4, for example, came about because film-makers Andrew Stanton and John Lasseter — who’s also the chief creative officer at Pixar, “came up with a new idea”, said Morris. “We all felt when we finished Toy Story 3 (that) it was a perfect trilogy, you know, ‘let’s consider that complete’. Toy Story 4 (has) the same ideas and is set in the same world, but it has a different story thread, with a love story more that’s internal to the characters — and not so much the interaction with the outside world,” he said, adding: “I kind of like leaving that original trilogy alone.”
Source: http://www.todayonline.com/entertainmen ... -east-asia
Still, this is where we begin to reach "The Land Before Time" terrain.
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Kyle wrote:We don't know that. These initial logos tend to change, some more drastically than others. They didn't keep the good dinosaur's initial title "the untitled pixar movie about dinosaurs" did they? Or a bugs life's "bugs". They may just not be ready to reveal the final title yet.
Doubtful. If they were planning to rename it into anything other than "Toy Story 4", they would have announced the film as "untitled Toy Story movie" but they didn't. They announced it as "Toy Story 4". Having the title with an Arabic numeral has become too recognizable for the Toy Story sequels to have it changed now and since it's a direct sequel, unlike Monsters University, the title makes sense as well.
Semaj wrote:Still, this is where we begin to reach "The Land Before Time" terrain.
They are releasing the 14th film in the series now, so Toy Story would have a lot of catching up to do to reach that number. :P
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Semaj wrote:Still, this is where we begin to reach "The Land Before Time" terrain.
The TLBT sequels were made by people completely unrelated to the first film and were irredeemably awful in all ways. Not really the same.
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I hope they do eventually drop the 4. There's no reason to call it that when Jim Morris and John Lasseter keep saying it's separate from the original trilogy.
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estefan wrote:There's no reason to call it that when Jim Morris and John Lasseter keep saying it's separate from the original trilogy.
They're just trying to soften the blow because of the backlash. It's still a direct continuation no matter how much they try to spin it.
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I think I would need to see more of what and who its about to decide if the 4 should stay. I'd need to see how much of a departure it really is. If for example we followed Cobat Carl (I know they wont, just hypothetically speaking) and woody and buzz only had a minor cameo they should really give it a subtitle.

But if it really is just as much of a continuation as the last two sequels the by all means keep the number.
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