Future Plans For WDW's Fantasyland

[Super Aurora]

Super Aurora I love your map and that is the best theme park castle I admit, but of course I would have Cindy's replacing that (also what Walt wanted specifically). But then Paris could keep their epic Stephen castle, or Disneyland's could become more awesomer. Also Cindy's needs to look more like the film where it was awesomer.

I chose that castle cause I like it the best. I was never a fan of Cinderella's castle.

[blackcauldron85]

Next, why can't you see these pieces of architecture from the films may be just like the Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse which was made by Walt and is enjoyed by adults and kids? And if they aren't, maybe they can be. But since they cover I think even more area than that one treehouse, I think there will be even more to explore.

Swiss Family Robinson is SO themed and big...if we don't know how big these homes will be, then it might be hard to realize how much theming can be included. I haven't seen Swiss Family Robinson (I know, I know...I will someday), so I don't know how big a part the house plays in the film, but I know that they were stranded on the island (?) and made their home...it's neat to see how they survived. I mean, a treehouse home is really, really cool. Not that a cottage can't be cool, but these homes better be themed amazingly well. And have lots to explore besides making birthday cards. Mickey's and Minnie's homes allowed us to explore, so hopefully these homes will be like that.

I just realized, Cinderell could take you on a tour of her house and, with the Fairy Godmother's magic, show scenes of her story, with projections and/or animatronics and/or live people. It would be a timed, guided tour of her house with scenes. This could happen with Aurora and Belle, too, I could see the spinning wheel appearing and Aurora touching it and falling and Phillip coming through the door, or Belle almost touching the rose and the Beast popping out hella scary. Or seeng the mice make Cinderella's dress in her attic, and then the fight between them and Lucifer, and Cinderella bringing down her hidden glass slipper to the Duke, bringing everyone back to the first floor again.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE that idea! Love it! That would be amazing. I want that!

Existing, aging, "temporary" and legitimately popular meet and greets finally begin replaced with ones that look vastly superior and handle crowds better

I think that one of the biggest beefs with this is that Pixie Hollow might not be the most everlasting property to put here, when there are so many other worlds they could use for a meet and greet.

A long over-due replacement for 20K. One that both handles crowds better too.

This is The Little Mermaid ride, right? Are people even complaining about this?

Does anyone think that other Fantasylands will get similar "upgrades" (for lack of a better word at this hour) if this one is popular?

[Flanger-Hanger]

I think that one of the biggest beefs with this is that Pixie Hollow might not be the most everlasting property to put here, when there are so many other worlds they could use for a meet and greet.

Other world's are not as popular now (if billions in sales figures are any indication) and Tink already has a popular meet and greet that pales in comparison to what's offered in Disneyland. Some form of Pixie Hollow should be built.

This is The Little Mermaid ride, right? Are people even complaining about this?

Most not, but some are on the basis of it begin a "clone", which I don't understand. If it's a quality attraction that thematically fits why is there a problem?

[schoollover]

Honestly, if I was remodleing fantasyland here's what I would do

Fantasyland
. I would keep toontown but put in the houses of the princesses there.
. I would make a Dumbo ride section as disney planned it.
. I would build a neverland section around peter pans flight
. Redesign the Barnstormer coaster as a Pinnochio coaster
. Have a Mary Poppins meet and greet
. Ive always had an idea for a one hundred and one dalmatians ride where the person is in a cart and experienceing the movie almost like 4-D or in a 4-D theater with all the effect's such as snow, water dripping on you, getting captured riding on a truck with the back open while a mainac is chasing you, etc.

Adventureland
. Design a Cave of Wonders ride based off of Aladdin with daily meet in greets, and they could even put aladdins marketplace house.
. Have a Tarzan ride somehow like Soarin where you cant travel through the jungle and tarzans house etc.

If they did this I think everybody would be happier

[Disney Duster]

I chose that castle cause I like it the best. I was never a fan of Cinderella's castle.

I like it the best too and I never liked Cinderella's much either, but I mean they could make Cinderella's look better and more like the film's or more like the French Sleeping Beauty one.

I have to say that Amy I bet you make everybody here happy. You're like a Disney princess, but better. Thank you for loving my ideas.

Flam-Ham, yea but, are you forgetting there's strong chance the Tinker Bell franchise won't be as popular in a few years, not making that much money in a few years?

IN FACT, they would HAVE to keep re-releasing the Tinker Bell films as if they were a DAC in order for them to keep making money off of Pixie Hollow in the future!!! Otherwise people wouldn't remember them at all and they would be more obsure than they are now, and they wouldn't make any money.

[DisneyDude2010]

IN FACT, they would HAVE to keep re-releasing the Tinker Bell films as if they were a DAC in order for them to keep making money off of Pixie Hollow in the future!!! Otherwise people wouldn't remember them at all and they would be more obsure than they are now, and they wouldn't make any money.

Yeh It totally agree. The franchise is so stupid in US they releasing them straight to DVD but in UK there viewing in cinema's first WTF

They need to make a really good movie on them for the Big screen so they wont be forgotten or just dissolve the franchise i don't care - Add Tiana to Fantasyland Instead

[blackcauldron85]

Other world's are not as popular now (if billions in sales figures are any indication) and Tink already has a popular meet and greet that pales in comparison to what's offered in Disneyland. Some form of Pixie Hollow should be built.

Well, yeah, I mean, it would make more sense to create Fairy Hollow than Atlantis, Prydain, Treasure Planet, Little Patch of Heaven, etc., but I just am wondering if it would have been better, since they're spending so much money, to build something a little more evergreen. That's why I still think that Never Land or Wonderland would have been perfect. Pixie Hollow is kind of excluding the stereotypical male population, while Never Land would have something for everyone, including Pixie Hollow, and of course, Wonderland could be for everyone, too.

Most not, but some are on the basis of it begin a "clone", which I don't understand. If it's a quality attraction that thematically fits why is there a problem?

Gotcha. I'm iffy on cloning, but in this case, I'm much too exited, since I want this ride!

I would keep toontown but put in the houses of the princesses there.

But the princesses don't live in Toontown. They live in Europe. I mean, not Tiana or Pocahontas or Mulan, but the rest of them.

I would build a neverland section around peter pans flight

Do you mean moving Peter Pan's Flight into a new area? Or physically right where the ride is currently? Is there enough space? (I know that this is all hypothetical, but still...I care. )

Ive always had an idea for a one hundred and one dalmatians ride where the person is in a cart and experienceing the movie almost like 4-D or in a 4-D theater with all the effect's such as snow, water dripping on you, getting captured riding on a truck with the back open while a mainac is chasing you, etc.

I'm all for fully-immersive rides! Great idea!

Design a Cave of Wonders ride based off of Aladdin with daily meet in greets, and they could even put aladdins marketplace house.

Yes, please.

Have a Tarzan ride somehow like Soarin where you cant travel through the jungle and tarzans house etc.

Another yes, please!!!

I have to say that Amy I bet you make everybody here happy. You're like a Disney princess, but better. Thank you for loving my ideas.

<3 Thanks! So many people here have amazing ideas! (I was even reading Bobby some just now and I said the same thing, that a lot of our members should be Imagineers!)

Flam-Ham, yea but, are you forgetting there's strong chance the Tinker Bell franchise won't be as popular in a few years, not making that much money in a few years?

Again, you say what I meant to, only more concisely.

IN FACT, they would HAVE to keep re-releasing the Tinker Bell films as if they were a DAC in order for them to keep making money off of Pixie Hollow in the future!!! Otherwise people wouldn't remember them at all and they would be more obsure than they are now, and they wouldn't make any money.

Extremely, extremely valid point.

Add Tiana to Fantasyland Instead

Technically New Orleans Square in Disneyland would be where she would best fit (and they could make a TP&tF section in Port Orleans Resort at WDW!), but I'm all for adding Tiana anywhere!

[Flanger-Hanger]

Well, yeah, I mean, it would make more sense to create Fairy Hollow than Atlantis, Prydain, Treasure Planet, Little Patch of Heaven, etc., but I just am wondering if it would have been better, since they're spending so much money, to build something a little more evergreen. That's why I still think that Never Land or Wonderland would have been perfect. Pixie Hollow is kind of excluding the stereotypical male population, while Never Land would have something for everyone, including Pixie Hollow, and of course, Wonderland could be for everyone, too.

I find it hard to believe that Tink herself will ever die off in popularity or that kids years later won't want to meet her. The size of PH at Disneyland is also very small and includes a little nighttime show with fountains and lights that's pretty neat from the video I've seen. If a dark ride or variation of the Tow Mater attraction from DCA gets built too, is it not possible that their popularity will last beyond the time Tink's token friends are forgotten?

This section and it's merits have been argued to death elsewhere online and its substance has been apparently left open in all of Disney's statements in case changes are made. I say some form of PH should be made and we should probably wait and see what the final result is before passing judgment. At this point nothing has happened to the plot of land reserved for it despite the massive clearing of dirt and demo work to build the BatB and LM sections and work on the Pooh queue happening now.

[blackcauldron85]

^ I don't doubt that people will want to meet Tinker Bell for years to come; even without her own series, she's one of Disney's most popular characters. It's just her friends who I'm doubting. And as for Mater, I guess we'll have to wait and see, but I can see Pixar's characters being forever loved...

[Disney Duster]

I didn't know they already had a Pixie Hollow at Disneyland...it's smaller than what Disney World planned, though. I honestly would think you would need just the tree and Tink's home, I'm sure those could fit in a large Neverland area.

And maybe some Pixar characters are forever but Cars characters...ehhh...

[Flanger-Hanger]

When I said "a variation of Tow Mater's" I was referring to the possibility of a ride in PH that was like the Cras attraction, but themed to PH.

I never said Tow Mater himself was a character whose popularity will stay over time.

[blackcauldron85]

^ Oh, I misread what you had typed. Maybe a ride would add to their popularity, sure.

[DisneyDude2010]

I have read now on many sites that faze 2 of the Fantasyland Expansion, Pixie Hollow is getting pulled back for "retooling" as the company put to much attention on Tink and therefore no one remembers the others (as well)
and as the land is mostly girl themed they are considering making it fun for all the family i.e rollercoasters etc.

If this is true I would love to see Rapunzel or snow white added to the land instead.

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[Atlantica]

What Disney does with ignoring Tink's friends would be kind of the same if the wizarding world of harry potter ifgnored ron and hermione, you know ? The secondary characters are wonderful; they add so much to each picture. They NEED to be there to make it the best experience possible. Plus with Tink III, we get to see her friends SO much more than in the other movies as well, as they get their time to shine. This would be the perfect opportunity to put them in the parks more.

[Margos]

What Disney does with ignoring Tink's friends would be kind of the same if the wizarding world of harry potter ifgnored ron and hermione, you know ? The secondary characters are wonderful; they add so much to each picture. They NEED to be there to make it the best experience possible. Plus with Tink III, we get to see her friends SO much more than in the other movies as well, as they get their time to shine. This would be the perfect opportunity to put them in the parks more.

Definitely! Nice to see I'm not the only one who feels that way!

[blackcauldron85]

Disney says Fantasyland expansion plans are changing
http://www.laughingplace.com/Latest-ID-75210.asp

The whole article is worth reading, but here is something that stuck out to me:

Staggs said planners are also reviewing the Fantasyland expansion with an eye toward blending “aspirational rides” — rides that offer thrills or tension — with attractions designed for guests of all ages. And he said they want to ensure that the additions are flexible and can be updated or adapted over time.

[Flanger-Hanger]

Interesting Article. It states how much of what was originally planned will be included in the final design too (makes sense, they've already started foundation work for TLM).

It also sounds as if the Princess experiences are begin kept but added on too, along with the overall budget staying largely the same.

As for thrill rides, I'm concerned with where they plan on putting one if most everything is coming as originally planned or where the money will come for such an experience. Maybe Pixie Hollow since it's not "Princess" based technically?

And as for what it could be, that rumored Seven Dwarfs roller coaster fits the description of both "thrill ride" and princess based.

Finally (not based on the article), it appears the Pooh queue will be finished on November 14th when the attraction opens from closing on the 25th of October, to do queue work that can't be done with it open.

[Disney Duster]

This is great! They are keeping the original homes, but just plussing them and making them better!

I wonder if the "aspirational rides" will be with the princesses in any way. Like, in their homes after you meet them, or before you meet them. That would be cool.

[singerguy04]

This is wonderful news! I really hope they do something better with Aurora. Being that Sleeping Beauty is my favorite Animated Classic, I think it'd be very embarrassing for a 24 year old man to visit the attraction without children.

[Big Disney Fan]

This is great! They are keeping the original homes, but just plussing them and making them better!

What homes?