cant disagree.Goliath wrote:Look out... long post coming through! I'm now discussing this topic in two threads; the other is in 'Movies, music and tv'. It would be better if we decided on *one* thread to continue. I leave it up to you.
I wasnt saying she was either. I guess I got the comments from that page going through my head. Besides, "Slut" is as often used by girls to other girls as it is by guys. Not disagreeing, just saying.I wouldn't call her 'slutty'. Ever. No matter what she wears or how she behaves. In my opinion, 'slut' is a mysoginistic word that's being used by hypocritical males (mostly), as a means to keep women in line; to decide how a woman should or shouldn't dress or behave. If they don't obey, they'll be labeled 'sluts'. There's no male equivalent to the insult. A man can do whatever he pleases and never be called a similar thing.ajmrowland wrote:2. Being optimistic, but the slutty ship hasn't sailed quite yet. There may be hope for her.
oh, no harm done. I dont use the term that often, either.So that's why I won't call her that. I was not attacking you, by the way, ajmrowland. Just some general thought I felt I should share before I continued the discussion.
I'd nearly forgotten about that. Still, I cant say it was direct parental decision or bad influence from her dad, but I do think she should balance things out, and she seems to be trying to with her new movie and all that. Only time will tell, unless we get a fortune teller on here.I'm wondering how much of this 'new image' was really Miley's own decision. I think it's dangerous that some people on this board are applauding Miley for it, since we don't know whether it's something she wants, or if it's decided for her, by her father. She's only 17 years old and thus underage. And we've seen in the past what her father will do for money. He even exploited Miley's little sister. Go back a page or two and you'll find the horrible pictures of a 9 year old dressed up like a... Well, let's say with that outfit and those photo's made public, you wonder why they just didn't move next door to a registred sex offender and opened the windows at night...
blackcauldron85 wrote:It's not like she was stripping or anything. I mean, she showed a little more skin, but Britney and Christina were at this age, too.
I find parents are often as much at fault as the stars are. Aren't they the ones supposed to be telling their kids WHY they shouldn't dress like that?Like I said, I'm not a prude and I will never say to a woman how to dress or behave, but I just think it sends the wrong messages to teenage girls about 'how to be taken seriously'.
Everybody has different tastes, but I think we can establish what's good singing and what's not. Miley sounds good because they've run her voice through the computer a zillion times to make it sound better; at least that's how I judge it. I would put her on the same level as your average American Idol-finalist. (I wouldn't want to be caught ever watching that program, but it's on when my sister's home, unfortunately.) Oh, and just so you know, that was not a compliment.[/quote] Miley can sing, when we can hear her voice over the "echos", but she cant act. no. The computer would have to be really good to make her voice still sound like hers.blackcauldron85 wrote:1. Miley can sing. Very, very well.
Do you remember her pole-dancing during a show aimed at teenagers? Including the half-dressed dancers in the background? Hvae you seen how she behaves in the 'Party in the USA' clip? (Again, I curse my sister!) Do you think that shows self-respect? Have you seen how her father dressed up his 9 year old daughter? Do you think that's good parenting?blackcauldron85 wrote:2. I hope that Miley doesn't go the alcohol/drug/sleezy route that Britney and Lindsay did (and I'm a fan of them). I hope that her parents have raised her well enough, and that she has enough self-respect, to stay away from things like that. I'd hate to see her go the bad-girl route. But dressing up a little doesn't mean that she's whored herself out.
[/quote] I havent seen the clip, but I know the pole dancing was an ice cream truck, and it wasnt meant to be a sexy one. As for the PITUSA clip, I will never even watch that a first time because that song is obnoxious shit.
