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The film had a record opening in Mexico last weekend:
Also from Disney, and Pixar, Coco started off its overseas career in Mexico, and it too flew past Sunday estimates with $9.3M vs a projected $8.4M. The release fell just ahead of the Día de Muertos holiday (that’s why Thor‘s not there yet). The film opened at No. 1 and scored the biggest opening weekend for an original IP animated pic, and the top debut for an animated movie outside summer vacations in the market.
Source: http://deadline.com/2017/10/thor-ragnar ... 202196942/


Judging by the comments I’ve read on social media, it seems that Mexican people are loving the movie (and it's making many of them cry). Also, they all seem to agree that it represents their culture very accurately.

However, it also looks like Olaf’s Frozen Adventure is getting a bit of backlash in the country. I guess that’s because many people don’t know the short is paired with the film before going to the cinema, or they don't know it's so long. They go to see Coco and then they have to sit through a 20 minute short before they can see the actual movie. Some people are angry and others confused, some even thought the cinema was projecting the wrong movie.
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I think what Mexicans think is more important than what non-Mexicans think of the movie. Esp. "white saviors" who want to comment on the film.

On the other hand, i'm curious to see how will this Frozen reaction do in other countries. Like I've said before that I don't think this movie will be very popular in either Europe or Asia, but Frozen is super popular in both places, so who knows.
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thedisneyspirit wrote:I think what Mexicans think is more important than what non-Mexicans think of the movie. Esp. "white saviors" who want to comment on the film.

On the other hand, i'm curious to see how will this Frozen reaction do in other countries. Like I've said before that I don't think this movie will be very popular in either Europe or Asia, but Frozen is super popular in both places, so who knows.
I don't know about the other countries but in Sweden Olaf's Frozen Adventure is not currently planned to be with Coco (Coco will be in Swedish cinemas February 22nd) and will instead be avaliable on Itunes December 1st.

And I don't have Itunes :cry:
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Interesting...Interesting...

I didn't even know there was a big mexican population in Sweden tbh.
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thedisneyspirit wrote:I think what Mexicans think is more important than what non-Mexicans think of the movie. Esp. "white saviors" who want to comment on the film.

On the other hand, i'm curious to see how will this Frozen reaction do in other countries. Like I've said before that I don't think this movie will be very popular in either Europe or Asia, but Frozen is super popular in both places, so who knows.
Agreed. I also enjoy hearing what people who actually match the nationality/ethnicity of a Disney movie feel about it. For example Hawaiians about Lilo & Stitch or Greeks about Hercules (I know the latter was disgusted with the film lol and received to have its world premiere there). So it's heartening to know that Coco has been well received and is considered authentic.
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Wait, what? Why are they pairing a 20 minute long anything with a movie? 6 minutes is kinda the max you can get away with on a short before a movie. At a certain point it becomes a double feature. And these two have nothing in common with each other.
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Kyle wrote:Wait, what? Why are they pairing a 20 minute long anything with a movie? 6 minutes is kinda the max you can get away with on a short before a movie. At a certain point it becomes a double feature. And these two have nothing in common with each other.
Didn't The Prince and the Pauper open before The Rescuers Down Under? That has a 25 minute running time. Even Mickey's Christmas Carol opened before a reissuing of The Rescuers and that has a 26 minute running time. So while it isn't very common nowadays, it's not really new for Disney.
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It might not be new, but I stand by thinking it's not smart either. You're going to annoy people. Especially now that movies have so many ads, they want to get to the reason they paid to be their in the first place.
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It seems the backlash against the Frozen short in Mexico was bigger than I thought. Some theaters have even decided to stop projecting it with the film.

DisneyBluLife wrote:I don't know about the other countries but in Sweden Olaf's Frozen Adventure is not currently planned to be with Coco (Coco will be in Swedish cinemas February 22nd) and will instead be avaliable on Itunes December 1st.

And I don't have Itunes :cry:
What a shame! :( I understand their decision though; it doesn't make much sense to release a Christmas short in February. However, it looks like it will be shown with Coco in Japan and the film opens there in March. In my country Coco opens December 1 and, thankfully, Olaf's Frozen Adventure will be paired with it.

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thedisneyspirit wrote:I think what Mexicans think is more important than what non-Mexicans think of the movie. Esp. "white saviors" who want to comment on the film.

On the other hand, i'm curious to see how will this Frozen reaction do in other countries. Like I've said before that I don't think this movie will be very popular in either Europe or Asia, but Frozen is super popular in both places, so who knows.
Agreed. I also enjoy hearing what people who actually match the nationality/ethnicity of a Disney movie feel about it. For example Hawaiians about Lilo & Stitch or Greeks about Hercules (I know the latter was disgusted with the film lol and received to have its world premiere there). So it's heartening to know that Coco has been well received and is considered authentic.
I also agree. I believe having a team of advisors from the place where the film is set, like they also had for Moana, makes a big difference. They've always done research trips, but I don't think they had that kind of advisors in the past, had they? Many times I've heard in Hollywood films or in American songs someone saying something in Spanish and saying it wrong, and I always wonder "couldn't they just have shown it to at least one Spanish speaking person to make sure it was correct?". Even The Book of Life has some inaccuracies in that regard. For example, half of the characters pronounce the name of the village in the film wrong. Whereas all I have heard from Coco in Spanish so far has been correctly said and pronounced.
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Here's the final trailer:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvr68u6k5sI[/youtube]
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The fact that in Mexico the movie is being generally liked is good. I imagine some salty American/European is mad he can't butt in and be all "omg it's so racist you stupid brown people don't recognize when your culture is being insulted", heck, I'm pretty sure he's holding himself from having a heart attack. :lol:

Also, is it just me, or is this movie just not attracting the attention of this forum? Then don't complain when Disney doesn't do what you want. :roll:
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thedisneyspirit wrote: Also, is it just me, or is this movie just not attracting the attention of this forum? Then don't complain when Disney doesn't do what you want. :roll:
I know for some reason that I haven't been very attentive to this film. But in general, the movies I really follow are the 90s style musical or more fairy-tale esque ones like Frozen and I guess Moana, whereas I never followed Big Hero 6 and Zootopia as much. The Pixar films fit more in the latter category. The main ones I really follow are the sequels like Dory, and The Incredibles when that gets a bit more traction. I didn't realize the film is only a few months away and that was my absolute favorite film when I was young, so I'm really excited for that.

My hype for Coco has increased though after hearing the good reviews. After hearing all the controversy, I think I dismissed this film too soon and thought it was just Disney's attempt to tap into the Latin market without actually putting much effort (like Elena). And admittedly, I tend to prefer films with a Eurasian origin, because those lend themselves more to the 90s style musicals we got from Disney as well as fairy tale films, so the Mexican setting didn't really grab my interest either despite living in Texas.
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I haven't paid attention because I don't care for PIXAR films. Well, John Lasseter-connected films in general, but especially coming from PIXAR. Occasionally they knock it out of the park (Inside Out, Toy Story 3, The Incredibles), but mostly they leave me cold.

The only thing about this I'm currently interested in checking out is the grandmother angle and the Lopezes' song. I may not even see this for years if Disney removes itself from Netflix before this is available there.
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The premiere of Coco is being live streamed right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfj1YDMW2hA

Here's also a new clip that has been released today:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di2bCDqa_Ro[/youtube]


UPDATE

• New featurette and other videos:

• The name of the character John Ratzenberger voices in the film has been revealed:
  • A nice gem also came from Pixar's Instagram Story as they revealed John Ratzenberger's character name in the film — Juan Ortodoncia (which translates to orthodontics — very interesting). We know from our interview with Lee Unkrich that he only has one line in the movie, but he's an Easter Egg in his own right in Pixar films and we're always happy to hear what his character's name is.
    Source: http://www.pixarpost.com/2017/11/cocos- ... miere.html

• And Coco continues to break records at the Mexican box office:
  • Disney’s and Pixar’s animated Coco is beloved in Mexico where it opened last weekend ahead of the Dia de Muertos (Day of the Dead) holiday and in its second weekend moviegoing saw an increase of 12%. That is an unusual feat but word of mouth is very strong on this critical favorite.

    The family film from directors Lee Unkrich and Adrian Molina has already grossed $28M in the country and has earned more in its first 10 days in Mexico than any other animated film ever has. It’s already the highest-grossing new IP animated release there ever.
    Source: http://deadline.com/2017/11/thor-ragnar ... 202202193/
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The early reviews have been quite positive so far, so that's a good sign I think.
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Pixar Production Designer Harley Jessup “remembers” Coco
http://animatedviews.com/2017/pixar-pro ... bers-coco/

Gael García Bernal Talks About Singing in Pixar's 'Coco'
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/g ... co-1056611
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