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Divinity, Ursula will be interacting with Flotsam and Jetsam. There's no way Disney would just CGI them into the movie and make them work just floating there. C'mon man, that wouldn't work!
You're right, that wouldn't work. But, yes, I do think they would do that.

The picture of the doll looks better than robster's picture (as far as the design--the hair not being so big--not the artwork which is pretty). I stil hate that jacket though. And, yes, her tentacles are shorter. I sort of expected that from a live-action version, but it's sort of funny to me they made Ariel's tail more cumbersome and complicated (read: gaudy), but they made Ursula's tentacles smaller and less interesting. :roll:

The pink and white dress is still as ugly as I remembered it being, personally. So far the only design we've seen that I've liked was the Queen's dress (the outfit for the character who didn't exist in the original :lol: ). More pretty for what it was, although I though it was a weird fit for the time period because it had a modern feel and didn't feel very "royal."
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Yes, the Queen's dress wasn't bad. I especially liked the texture of the fabric (I guess it's pleated or something like that?) and what seems like ocean-inspired elements like the pearls on the bodice (which is better appreciated in the full-sized version of the image on the left below) or the tiara.

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Oh, you feel Disney would just CGI them in? Ok, Divinity, that's how you feel.

The Queen's dress actually does fit the period, especially in that it is a full, big, tiered skirt. But...egads, I think it's worse than Ariel's! I'm guessing the leaked pics hold the worst costumes and the good ones we will see later. I hope!
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I suppose by modern I mean the lower half looks sort of like something I could see a celebrity like a Christina Aguilera walking along the beach in (maybe a touch less wide though).
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I've just noticed that in the picture I posted the other day (below left), Halle doesn't seem to be wearing a pink sash at her waist like she does in other photos. Or perhaps the light makes it look lighter there. Anyway, maybe that's why the dress looked different than what some of us remembered.

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By the way, those aren't the only outfits we saw. As you may remember, Noma was also spotted on set in a white or white and pink dress, though the photos weren't too good.

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In modern day, people wear all sorts of things that echo or mix with the past.

I think I am just not a fan of tiered skirts. But actually looking at these costumes again, they are pretty. I don't like Ariel's belt or sash on her waist, maybe that is why I didn't like the whole costume at first. But really, it's not bad, and it sounds like some great costumes will be in this film after all.
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Little Mermaid director says his new take on Ariel spotlights a 'modern woman'
https://ew.com/movies/little-mermaid-mo ... interview/
"No. 1 is her passion — that fire is very important," he explains of this new take on Ariel. "She feels displaced and it's really an epic story of finding your true self. But also there needs to be a great deal of joy. It's a strange combination of innocence and wisdom, and a great deal of soul and heart. She's very modern in that way."
While among the surface world, Ariel falls in love with Prince Eric, who doesn't believe the mermaids of the deep are as bad as he was taught. Marshall and the writers took that as another opportunity to flesh out the Eric role.

"The role of Eric in the animated film — I'm sure the original creators would agree with this — it's a wooden, classic prince character with not a lot going on," the director says. "There's a whole story that's developed in our film. He has a mother, a queen, that's new to the film. He has a very similar trajectory in a way to Ariel. He doesn't feel like it's where he fits in, his world."

"These two kindred spirits find each other and really teach the world about prejudice and about breaking down barriers and walls between these two worlds," Marshall adds.
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Humans not only knowing about the existence of merfolk, but actively hating them is probably the stupidest change they made for the remake.
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He stresses there was "no agenda" when casting Ariel for The Little Mermaid. "We just were looking for the best actor for the role, period. The end," he remarks. "We saw everybody and every ethnicity."
Why do they continue spreading this lie? We know the role was reserved for a Black actress and while they were legally obligated to allow people of all races and ethnicities audition, only Black actresses were in actual contention. Wouldn't it be better not to insult people's intelligence and admit this? They could have easily justified their decision by pointing out the benefits of diversity and representation, the importance of having Black female leads etc. It's no secret Disney has established quotas and practices color-conscious casting for their projects. I just don't get the pretense.
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To be fair, she actually looks like a creature of the deep, which is way more authentic and fitting for this kind of character let alone overall subject matter. As much as I still wish that Bonnie Wright Would’ve followed in our fellow Harry Potter costars footsteps and be Ariel, This feels a lot more authentic let alone helps it stand out as its own thing instead of just being a carbon copy like her Harry Potter costar’s eH?
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I don't get the need for smoke and mirrors either. Like you said, they could've easily justified it with the same crowd and they'd get the same ra-ra PR for it anyway, so I'm not sure why they feel the need to dance around it.

I think Ariel having superpowers is the dumbest decision (much like when they did it with Mulan), but having humans know mermaids exist is pretty dumb to me, too.
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Disney's Divinity wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:13 amI think Ariel having superpowers is the dumbest decision.
Well, that hasn't been confirmed yet. It might be something that's exclusive to the tie-in prequel novel. Also, it depends on what her power is. If it's something like "love" or "empathy" then it won't be too intrusive to the narrative.
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Maybe only some people believe the merfolk are real, and bad. But if that's not the case, yeah, that's the stupidest thing, along with the super powers and the daughters of Triton ruling different seas.
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They are going for a WSS/ Romeo and Juliet take. The prologue will probably be like Frozen II young Eric playing or something and then it's time for bed and his mother, the Queen, explaining that there was a bloodless battle or something.
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It's like they are trying to sabotage the movie. The original has been done for 30 years, much more creative minds tried and tested the story until we got what we got and no one EVER asked for the humans to know and hate merfolk. There's absolutely no need for you to try and reinvent the wheel
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Disney Duster wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:45 pm Maybe only some people believe the merfolk are real, and bad. But if that's not the case, yeah, that's the stupidest thing, along with the super powers and the daughters of Triton ruling different seas.
Why is it stupid for the daughters to rule the different seas? I’m actually quite intrigued by that, I think it’s actually quite kool :) Besides, what else are they going to do? It’s nice to actually give them some kind of meaning and purpose which they would have to do in a live action in more realistic context
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Farerb wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:18 pmThey are going for a WSS/ Romeo and Juliet take.
Are they really under the impression that inserting one of the most common and overused storytelling devices in literature and cinema will somehow add depth and uniqueness to their adaptation? :roll:
rodrigo_ca wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:30 amThe original has been done for 30 years, much more creative minds tried and tested the story until we got what we got and no one EVER asked for the humans to know and hate merfolk. There's absolutely no need for you to try and reinvent the wheel.
They are taking away one of the best part of the merfolk mythos; the mystery and legend surrounding their existence. Not to mention, having the merpeople hate humans simply because they eat fish is a much more organic and reasonable motive than hating them because of some convoluted personal history between them.
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Patricier21 wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:13 amWhy is it stupid for the daughters to rule the different seas? I’m actually quite intrigued by that, I think it’s actually quite kool :) Besides, what else are they going to do? It’s nice to actually give them some kind of meaning and purpose which they would have to do in a live action in more realistic context
I find it stupid because I find the entire ocean of Earth too big to let one family rule it. Like, who ruled the seas before Triton's daughters were born? Which offspring will rule different seas when some daughters die? What was Ariel gonna rule and who will take her place?

Ariel's sisters didn't need to rule to add more to them. It would be better to give them more personality than rename them and give them all Queen statuses.
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Disney Duster wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:26 pm
Patricier21 wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:13 amWhy is it stupid for the daughters to rule the different seas? I’m actually quite intrigued by that, I think it’s actually quite kool :) Besides, what else are they going to do? It’s nice to actually give them some kind of meaning and purpose which they would have to do in a live action in more realistic context
I find it stupid because I find the entire ocean of Earth too big to let one family rule it. Like, who ruled the seas before Triton's daughters were born? Which offspring will rule different seas when some daughters die? What was Ariel gonna rule and who will take her place?

Ariel's sisters didn't need to rule to add more to them. It would be better to give them more personality than rename them and give them all Queen statuses.
It all runs in the family. Don’t forget they have more family than that including urchin from the TV series etc. triton himself ties back into mythology as possibly being related to Poseidon, a.k.a. the god of the seas of which Ursula was actually his daughter on once upon a time. It very well is something around those lines.

Just because you’re blinded by hatred and are specious And impressionable does not mean that it’s necessarily as bad as you think, let alone that others think the same way no matter what no matter how otherwise it may seem. Please don’t ruin it for others, if anything you and others negatively towards this is do we need a lot more than what you were accusing the movie/filmmakers of doing themselves no matter what no matter how Otherwise it may seem
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Another person's opinion can't ruin your experience unless you choose to let it. If you can't simply ignore them, the Block function works just as well. I've loved many films and/or been excited for many films despite extreme negativity directed at them, sometimes by a lot of people and sometimes by only a select few--recent examples I can think of are Frozen, Frozen II[/i], The Princess and the Frog, Raya, A Wrinkle in Time, B&tB 2017, Aladdin 2019, Pinocchio 2022, POTC5, now Wish and Frozen III. :) All the teeth-gnashing in the world can't take away your love for something--if you do like it or love it for real, and it's not simply about ego.
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