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D82 wrote:Full music video of the Mexican end credits version of Remember Me (unfortunately, like some of the other official Disney videos from Mexico, it doesn't seem to be available in all countries): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfzmjgpx-VE
I don't understand why they geo-lock music videos. It's so stupid. There's literally nothing to be gained from this. Don't they want more views? Despacito wouldn't be breaking YouTube records right now if it were restricted to only Latin American countries.
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Its usually tracking or advertising purposes. They want control over what markets see what and when, so they can tailor ads to them.
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"Remember Me" is now available for purchase on iTunes and Amazon.
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15 Pieces of Beautiful Coco Concept Art That Are a Feast for Your Eyes
https://ohmy.disney.com/movies/2017/10/ ... ncept-art/

Concept Artist Ana Ramírez Brings Homegrown Touch to Pixar’s ‘Coco’
https://www.awn.com/animationworld/conc ... ixars-coco
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D82 wrote:Full music video of the Mexican end credits version of Remember Me (unfortunately, like some of the other official Disney videos from Mexico, it doesn't seem to be available in all countries): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfzmjgpx-VE
I don't understand why they geo-lock music videos. It's so stupid. There's literally nothing to be gained from this. Don't they want more views? Despacito wouldn't be breaking YouTube records right now if it were restricted to only Latin American countries.
I guess they have their reasons, like the ones Kyle mentioned, but at least apparently, it seems like a wasted opportunity for publicity more than anything else.

By the way, iTunes has the running times of the soundtrack tracks and it surprised me how short the songs are. "The World Es Mi Familia", for example, is just 50 seconds long.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/coco- ... app=itunes
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First clip:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFqeYK96JXc[/youtube]

A featurette about the making of the film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=946WZKoMSlU

And "Remember Me" performance on Dancing with the Stars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbkHkVO ... e=youtu.be
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• Disney Latino has released a second clip which shows the moment where Miguel meets Héctor. The clip is in Spanish, but I bet it'll soon be available in English too. I have to warn it reveals a plot point that I believe hasn't been revealed yet, so if you don't want to know too much about the story, maybe you shouldn't watch it. Though if you don't understand Spanish, you won't be spoiled. Here it is:
• Snippets of "The World Es Mi Familia" and "Un Poco Loco" from a Miguel singing doll.

• New promo clip: https://twitter.com/DisneyStudiosLA/sta ... 1849412609

• New international poster: https://www.cinemagouda.nl/afbeeldingen ... D-HIGH.jpg

• A couple of new stills: • And more promotional material from Mexico:
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Another clip has been released: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/pix ... 03562.html

Each one is more spoilery than the last! Ernesto de la Cruz seems surprised to learn he has a great-great-grandson. Do you think he didn't know he had a daughter?

EDIT: I've just remembered the photo Miguel has in which his great-great-grandparents appear with their daughter, so De La Cruz clearly knows about her. He's just surprised to learn he has a great-great-grandson then.
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Pixar's 'Coco' Opens The Morelia International Film Festival & The Reviews Are In
http://www.pixarpost.com/2017/10/coco-m ... tival.html

Pixar’s ‘Coco’ Moves Morelia to Tears
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/pixar ... 202595961/

How Pixar’s Coco Honors Mexico—and Defies Trump
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• First listen to Michael Giacchino's score from a concert for his 50th birthday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZtguu8lMjY

• The song "Un Poco Loco" has been released (yet again, the video can't be viewed in all countries): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYTs7M7rKB4
It's also available for purchase on iTunes and Amazon, and you can listen to it on Spotify as well.

• Press conference and an interview with the creators at the Morelia Film Festival in Mexico: • Chinese poster: https://twitter.com/leeunkrich/status/9 ... 6762018818

• New TV spot and promo clips: • Some character design sketches by Daniel Arriaga: • And review of "The Art of Coco" book with photos and a video (spoiler alert): https://www.parkablogs.com/node/13242
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^ I'm glad the film is getting good reviews. Right now it has an 88% rating at Rotten Tomatoes with seven positive reviews and one rotten: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/coco_2017

The Chinese trailer has also been released today:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb04N1AmZgU[/youtube]
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Disney has released a lyric video for the end credits version of Remember Me, performed by Miguel featuring Natalia Lafourcade:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iDxU9eNQ_0[/youtube]

The Mexican soundtrack has been released today. Disney Mexico has uploaded all the songs to their Youtube channel, but as always they aren't available in all countries. The only songs from that channel that are now available outside Mexico are the English movie versions of the songs "Remember Me" and "Un Poco Loco", that we had already heard. However, you can listen to snippets of all the tracks here: https://freeiplus.com/itunes/album/coco ... 88533-812/

Here's also the music video for the Latin American end credits version of "Remember Me", that previously couldn't be viewed in all countries (unfortunately though, the last seconds of the song are missing): https://twitter.com/DisneyNewsLA/status ... 1126345728
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D82 wrote:Disney has released a lyric video of the end credits version of Remember Me, performed by Miguel featuring Natalia Lafourcade.
I was not expecting this. The orchestration, tempo, and performances (Miguel's in particular) are ill-fitting. They've turned it into an oddly laid-back song that doesn't mesh well with the composition. The style almost sounds Polynesian-inspired instead of Mexican. Carlos Rivera's rendition is still the best version of this song, so far.
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Sotiris wrote:Carlos Rivera's rendition is still the best version of this song, so far.
I agree. It's much better than the version released today.

By the way, I've updated my previous post with more info about the film's soundtrack.
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D82 wrote:By the way, I've updated my previous post with more info about the film's soundtrack.
Thanks! I managed to get a hold of the Mexican soundtrack. Here are my impressions.

Marco Antonio Solis' version of "Remember me" is much better than Benjamin Bratt's. You can tell he's more experienced, being a musician and all. He's more tonally correct, and the color of his voice is more pleasant. He also sings "Much Needed Advice" which is a brief song mixed with dialogue.

The lullaby version of "Remember Me" by Gael Garcia Bernal is quite affecting and will undoubtedly become a fan favorite. Gael also sings "Everybody Knows Juanita" which is nice too. There is a second lullaby version of "Remember Me" that's dubbed "Reunion" sung by Luis Angel that reminded me of "I Am Moana" due to it being a duet with his great-grandma.

"Un Poco Loco" and "The World Es Mi Familia" are cute, fun songs, even though the latter is very short. "Proud Corazon" is the best of the three and the most uplifting.

You already know how I feel about the "Remember Me" renditions by Carlos Rivera and Miguel. The former's stellar while the latter's pretty awful, partially due to Miguel's performance. The solo version by Natalia Lafourcade is an improvement over the duet as it has a better flow, structure and vocals.

I enjoyed all the covers of the pre-existing Mexican songs as well as the original "El Corrido de Miguel Rivera". "La Llorana" stands out the most with a powerful performance by Angelica Vale. "Un Mundo Raro ", "Besame Mucho", and "La Bikina" are all great covers. The performers selected are top-notch and a perfect fit for the genre of each song.

"Jalale" is a pre-existing, instrumental piece by the Mexican Institute of Sound. I didn't care for this one.

Michael Giacchino's score is pleasant as always but not particularly memorable.

All in all, it's a pretty great soundtrack with high production values and excellent performances. Too bad most of the renditions won't be included in the American soundtrack. If you can only buy one, I recommend getting the Mexican one for the extra songs.
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^ I've also listened to the soundtrack (in my case through an illegal source :oops:, I couldn't resist, though I plan to buy the CD when it comes out where I live) and I pretty much agree with everything you said.

I love "Proud Corazon" too, it's a beautiful song. My favorite songs from the soundtrack are the three Miguel sings; I don't know which one of them I like the most. It's a shame Disney didn't submit any of them to the Oscars. I also agree that "The World Es Mi Familia" is too short. They should've made a longer version specially for the soundtrack, like they sometimes do.

"Much Needed Advice" is the song that was featured in the teaser trailer. I couldn't find any pre-existing song with the same title in Spanish either, so I guess it's an original song too, despite not being included among the new creations in that press release.

I didn't think about it before, but I guess in Spain we're getting the same soundtrack as Mexico, because Disney Spain decided to use the same dubbing for our country, which by the way, is an excellent decision in my opinion. It would have seem very strange to us to hear Mexican characters speak in a perfect Spanish from Spain. It would be the same as if British people, for instance, got a film set in the States and the characters spoke with British accent. The first teaser released here was dubbed for Spain, but then they reconsidered their decision and all the trailers and clips have been with the Mexican voices.
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I was reading a review and this bit caught my attention.
Coco takes few narrative risks, peddling a simplistic story in which our hero learns pat lessons while failing to undergo any sort of significant inner journey.
Source: https://www.screendaily.com/reviews/coc ... 36.article


That's the vibe I've been getting from all of the trailers and clips that have been released so far. I suspect this stems from making the character's struggle an external instead of an internal one. The whole thing about Miguel being forbidden to become a musician by his family is incredibly silly and unconvincing (it was just as silly as when Ariel's Beginning did it and Triton even had a better reason than Miguel's grandma). If they needed to make Miguel's central conflict about him becoming a musician they could have come up with a more believable starting point. For example, they could have made him struggle with his need to work in order to support his family and his passion for music. It would have been a good way to introduce some more mature themes like the effects of poverty and class struggle in a nuanced but accessible way instead of making Miguel's main problem so clichéd and artificial. Miguel's need to survive hampering his ability to follow his dreams would have been a much more realistic problem than his family banning music.
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