I think we may need to save the Treasures series

[The_Iceflash]

Those three titles: "El Groupo," "The Boys" and "Waking Sleeping Beauty" (even though fine and worthy documentaries unto themselves) don't even fit the idea of "Walt Disney Treasures" - - These are NOT the same thing.

We want more of Walt's actual films, his animation, his television programs - - to enjoy as true entertainment experiences, not just informational documentaries ABOUT Walt's films to further memorialize his time and help nail the vault shut. (...and "Waking Sleeping Beauty" isn't even about Walt's films at all).

Not to mention these recent theatrical releases would be coming out on video anyway, "Treasures" or none.

Great to see these docs made and released - - But they are not the same thing at all for my money.

We still need Ludwig VonDrake, Jiminy Cricket, Ranger Woodlore, Chip an Dale, The Magic Mirror, Annette, Moochie and the gang!!!

Annette?

[merlinjones]

>>Annette?<<

Annette's "Escapade in Florence," "The Horsemasters," "Spin and Marty 2 and 3" all still unreleased...

[Heil Donald Duck]

Those three titles: "El Groupo," "The Boys" and "Waking Sleeping Beauty" (even though fine and worthy documentaries unto themselves) don't even fit the idea of "Walt Disney Treasures" - - These are NOT the same thing.

I agree, Such set would actually be waste of space in the WDT line unless the are added as bonus, but main feature no.

[Escapay]

Those three titles: "El Groupo," "The Boys" and "Waking Sleeping Beauty" (even though fine and worthy documentaries unto themselves) don't even fit the idea of "Walt Disney Treasures" - - These are NOT the same thing.

I could potentially see Walt and El Grupo fitting in the WDT line, but as a supplement, not the main feature. Like, if if it were a Walt Disney Treasures set of Saludos, Amigos and The Three Caballeros, with all their laserdisc supplements carried over and Walt and El Grupo included as a new supplement. Similar to how Disneyland: Secrets, Stories, and Magic was the new documentary (albeit, the prominently featured one) among a lot of archival material about Disneyland.

albert

[WDWLocal]

We still need Ludwig VonDrake, Jiminy Cricket, Ranger Woodlore, Chip an Dale, The Magic Mirror, Annette, Moochie and the gang!!!

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

A Chip & Dale set is totally unnecessary. That would be EXTREME double-dipping, which we should be trying to avoid as often as possible.

Chip & Dale's 3 starring shorts would be better off getting released on Disney Rarities Volume 2 and the Walt Disney Presents episode "The Adventures of Chip & Dale" could be a bonus feature on the second Rarities volume.

[Escapay]

I'd rather have a massive double dipping of Chip an' Dale than no Treasures at all.

albert

[slave2moonlight]

I'd rather have a massive double dipping of Chip an' Dale than no Treasures at all.

albert

I agree, though I would rather see them in a Rarities 2 release. What I want more than anything is Scrooge McDuck and Money, after all, and then the Jiminy Shorts and rest of Chip 'n' Dale, and various other stuff... Of course, there's tons of good material they could still release, but I believe they're really doing the loyal Disney Treasures collectors wrong by leaving loose ends if they end the line. Most specifically the rest of the shorts and the rest of Swamp Fox. And perhaps we should call Song of the South and the package films that have only been released heavily edited loose ends too.

[merlinjones]

>>I agree, though I would rather see them in a Rarities 2 release. What I want more than anything is Scrooge McDuck and Money, after all, and then the Jiminy Shorts and rest of Chip 'n' Dale, and various other stuff... Of course, there's tons of good material they could still release, but I believe they're really doing the loyal Disney Treasures collectors wrong by leaving loose ends if they end the line. Most specifically the rest of the shorts and the rest of Swamp Fox. And perhaps we should call Song of the South and the package films that have only been released heavily edited loose ends too.<<

All of those plus the VonDrake and Ranger Woodlore TV hours at least. VonDrake is a glaring omission from Walt's canon -- he was a major symbol of Walt Disney Productions in the 60's and there is awesome animation of VonDrake by Milt Kahl and some of the animation greats.

[Big Disney Fan]

All of those plus the VonDrake and Ranger Woodlore TV hours at least. VonDrake is a glaring omission from Walt's canon -- he was a major symbol of Walt Disney Productions in the 60's and there is awesome animation of VonDrake by Milt Kahl and some of the animation greats.

Well, Von Drake wasn't totally overlooked. His theatrical cartoon, "A Symposium On Popular Songs", was featured on the Rarities DVD, released in 2005. But yes, he needs more than that. At the very least, they should include "An Adventure In Color/Mathmagicland", the premiere episode for "The Wonderful World of Color".

[merlinjones]

>>Well, Von Drake wasn't totally overlooked. His theatrical cartoon, "A Symposium On Popular Songs", was featured on the Rarities DVD, released in 2005. But yes, he needs more than that. At the very least, they should include "An Adventure In Color/Mathmagicland", the premiere episode for "The Wonderful World of Color".<<

A complete set of all 18 one hour Ludwig hosted "Walt Disney Wonderful World of Color" episodes would be great! Including:

An Adventure in Color
The Hunting Instinct
Inside Donald Duck
Kids is Kids
Man is His Own Worst Enemy
The Truth About Mother Goose
In Shape with Von Drake
Music for Everybody
Carnival Time
Von Drake in Spain
Three Tall Tales
Inside Outer Space
A Square Peg in a Round Hole
Fly With Von Drake
Holiday for Henpecked Husbands
A Salute to Alaska
Mediterranean Cruise
A Rag a Bone a Box of Junk

Plus extras: Ludwig hosted featurette A Symposium on Popular Songs, the Ludwig VonDrake Disneyland LP and unique Disneyland/Vista singles, such as The Von Drake Quake (Twistin' With Ludwig Von Drake) - - as well as a Leonard Maltin tribute to voice actor and Disney Legend Paul Frees.

[Big Disney Fan]

The problem with a lot of the specials is that they are replays of past Disney cartoons, and you know how this public here feels about the Disney people repeating themselves, or as they call it "double dipping". I'm making an exception with "Color and Mathmagicland", since that is the premiere episode of The Wonderful World of Color, but that's it.

[merlinjones]

>>The problem with a lot of the specials is that they are replays of past Disney cartoons, and you know how this public here feels about the Disney people repeating themselves, or as they call it "double dipping". I'm making an exception with "Color and Mathmagicland", since that is the premiere episode of The Wonderful World of Color, but that's it.<<

Sound like you haven't seen them all. "Carnival Time" is almost entirely original too - - and there are new animated musical numbers and clever comedy bits in most of the shows that we are all missing out on now - - plus the compilation episodes are entertaining in their entirety and make for a pleasant viewing experience quite different than chronologically logged shorts on other volumes. The context is new and Paul Frees changes the tone of many cartoons with his new narration and wrap-arounds. It's not the same thing, nor double-dipping at all. And we get to see see more Walt too!

Besides, when did the rights holders ever refrain from "double-dipping" offerings of a far less rewarding, engaging and creative kind? No one is forcing anyone who feels otherwise to buy it - - but if it isn't available at all no one gets any of the Paul Frees fun! I'd pay extra for such a set!

[merlinjones]

A blogger did a fun theoretical cover for this release:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2sYXHRFeJNk/S ... +Drake.jpg

[Big Disney Fan]

Sound like you haven't seen them all. "Carnival Time" is almost entirely original too - - and there are new animated musical numbers and clever comedy bits in most of the shows that we are all missing out on now - - plus the compilation episodes are entertaining in their entirety and make for a pleasant viewing experience quite different than chronologically logged shorts on other volumes. The context is new and Paul Frees changes the tone of many cartoons with his new narration and wrap-arounds. It's not the same thing, nor double-dipping at all. And we get to see see more Walt too!

I didn't say all of the specials, I said a lot, meaning "many, but not all". "Carnival Time" could be one of the ones on the DVD. They could focus on mainly the episodes with more original animation than not.

[Deco King]

I'm so pissed off because I held off buying the Donald Duck Treasures Tin with the Clown of The Jungle and Trick or Treat shorts and now they're ridiculously expensive about $75.00!!

[merlinjones]

>>I'm so pissed off because I held off buying the Donald Duck Treasures Tin with the Clown of The Jungle and Trick or Treat shorts and now they're ridiculously expensive about $75.00!!<<

Wow - - the cheapest reseller copy for that title on Amazon right now is $102.95!!!

- - So who is saying there's no market for these?

[pvdfan]

^There will always be a market for the Fab 5. But as other series have show (Oswald, Front Lines, Tomorrowland ect.) the market is very small on other sets. I truly think Dr. Syn became a title where sellers bought it in mass just for resale.

It's sadly gotten to the point where joining D23 and buying the huge set is cheaper then just buying the 4 Donald's, Dr. Syn and Disneyland secrets set.

[Big Disney Fan]

^There will always be a market for the Fab 5. But as other series have show (Oswald, Front Lines, Tomorrowland ect.) the market is very small on other sets. I truly think Dr. Syn became a title where sellers bought it in mass just for resale.

It's sadly gotten to the point where joining D23 and buying the huge set is cheaper then just buying the 4 Donald's, Dr. Syn and Disneyland secrets set.

It's a good thing I got them when I did then. Talk about dodging a bullet.

[slave2moonlight]

All of those plus the VonDrake and Ranger Woodlore TV hours at least. VonDrake is a glaring omission from Walt's canon -- he was a major symbol of Walt Disney Productions in the 60's and there is awesome animation of VonDrake by Milt Kahl and some of the animation greats.

Definitely want that stuff as well, and I would have to say the Moby Duck episode is as important as any Von Drake ones (I mean, the one time Moby was animated!). As for folks who often bring up that the Von Drake episodes are largely old material with Ludwig bumpers, this was not always the case (as with "Carnival Time"), and the Ludwig material makes them completely different viewing experiences anyway. I for one would not be satisfied with just the Ludwig material minus the recycled content, as I've heard suggested. I wouldn't find that pleasing to watch at all. And I definitely feel Ludwig's Mickey and the Beanstalk is an example of how great these shows can be on their own merit (I have avoided the current release of that one though, so far, as I hear it is terrible quality).

As for the live-action TV show episodes, the ones that were not film-like stories I mean, I would be quite content if they would at least release Disneyland Showtime. There are a few others I would particularly like, but they are later stuff like the EPCOT opening special and the Mickey Mouse Club at Disney World.

And, I do so wish they'd come up with some sort of DVD line to release their very worthy 80's and 90's TV material in the future. Fluppy Dogs, Totally Minnie, Mr. Boogedy 1 and 2, and the list goes on and on... Some of the stuff wouldn't need to be in a special DVD line, but stuff like Totally Minnie and Mickey's 60th WOULD make more sense that way.

[merlinjones]

>>at least release Disneyland Showtime<<

I love that. "Disneyland Showtime" definitely needs to be released on an additional Disneyland set, along with "From the Pirates of the Caribbean to the World of Tomorrow" and "Holiday Time at Disneyland" - - and how about adding vintage in-park films such as "America the Beautiful," "The Story of Oil," "Mouseketeer 3-D Jamboree," "Disneyland's 50th Anniversary," etc.