The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader

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I haven't read this book in probably a decade but I thought that the only kids were just Edmund, Lucy and Eustace? I didn't think that Susan and Peter showed up, but I honestly can't remember. I agree that it's a little weird, even though there are the same actors and voices. I might see this in theaters, but right now I'm not very sure. PC was good, but it was nowhere near the magical experience of TLTWATW (and I know that it's the most "beloved" of the Narnia books).
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ajmrowland wrote:OMG Susan!

that said, Lucy's actress, georgie Henley has definitely grown more than I thought she would.

note the apparent extended beginning from the book.

the scene with the painting is nicely done, though I imagined it differently-like they get thrust onto the border of the painting and swept to stormy sea. here, it's in the room.

The White Witch's appearance threw me. Never expected that again.

As for the lack of grandness, that was never really there in the book either.
Yeah, Lucy looks so similar to Susan now I can barely tell the difference. For instance, in a shot with Susan in her Wardrobe outfit with the dress and the arrows, I almost swear I can see Lucy's face. I think there's a new scene at the end, with the Pevensies reminiscing about Narnia, the world in which they all can no longer visit.

Reepicheep seems fatter, but his voice change is hardly noticeable. I still would've preferred Izzard.

Ha ha, people still think Edmund's a kid despite his voice change and growth in height!

I think they're throwing the White Witch in pretty every Narnia now so that they won't forget her before her appearance in Nephew.

I actually think this is still capturing the magic found in the first two films, I mean, it's just the trailer. Disney certainly did a great job, I'm sad they left, but I think it'll still capture the tone of the first two. Though I do think they're gonna make it more violent, even there isn't that much violence in Voyage at all. I can't wait!
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Barbossa wrote:Looks alright but it's weird - has the same actors, same voices, but just doesn't feel that it ties to the other two. You can see right away the different style. Don't know if it's the music or the change in director. The Disney ones, I dunno, they just felt "grander" right from when I saw the trailers.
I think I know what the problem is. The first two films were shot on film. This third one has been shot digitally. So there are moments in the trailer where it has this weird motion blur thing going on that's reminiscent of Public Enemies (makes sense; that film and this one are by the same director of photography). It makes it look a bit cheap. It must be this specific kind of camera used because other digitally-shot films like Star Wars Episodes II and III, Sin City, Avatar, and Alice in Wonderland all look more cinematic than this.

While I agree this trailer doesn't feel as epic as those done by Disney's marketing department, I'm still pleased with what I see. Random thoughts:

* The water effect is really clever. It's not coming out of the entire frame; just the bottom portion that depicts the water. A lot of people are criticizing the look of the painting, but I think it makes sense with how the transition is done. If the Dawn Treader had been shown more prominently in the painting, then the logical thing to happen would've been for it to have crashed into the bedroom at the rate the water was pouring in. Putting it on the horizon allows the kids to still be some ways off from it when coming to the surface.

* What's up with Aslan when Lucy is looking at him in the mirror? His face is different (though not bad), but his mane looks like it got a serious trim. Perhaps this is an unfinished shot?

* Wow, Bill Nighy's Eddie Izzard impersonation is spot on. Looks like the casting change is going to be a lot smoother than I thought.

* The appearance of the White Witch is causing huge controversy (again). The biggest complaint seems to be that it's too reminiscent of her cameo in Prince Caspian. I don't think it's going to quite be the same thing here. The Dark Island is an island of nightmares. Her appearance (despite how the trailer has it edited) is probably meant to haunt Edmund, not lure him in. There's nothing to lure him to. She was half alive in PC, but she's just an illusion here.

* I love all of the bits of Lucy with the book of spells. The image transformation from her to Susan very subtle and nicely done. The shots with the snow falling are gorgeous.

* I like idea of Lilliandil being a star. It adds more magic and fantasy to the proceedings. How this affects her relationship with Caspian and her minor role in The Silver Chair will be interesting.

* The beach at Aslan's country is beautiful, and the wall of water is pretty cool. Hopefully the effect of him here is unfinished, though, because he's significantly smaller than the others. This happened with PC's trailer, too, and was later fixed for the final film.

* I wonder what the closeups of Peter and Susan are from. They're obviously in Narnia, though I'm sure this is some sort of dream sequence. A lot of purists are alarmed over this bit, but I'm glad to see the two of them back so long as they're not literally back in Narnia.

Since this is just a teaser, the presentation's pretty vague. It's obvious they're focusing more on the nostalgia from the previous two than on the specifics of this installment. Looking at what it's here rather than how it's edited together, I like what I'm seeing. It seems like this is going to be more of a fantasy than LWW and PC, which is fine by me so long as it doesn't become too childish.
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I was disapointed not to see it in my showing of Toy Story 3 but I saw it online. I have two issues that could become lesser issues over time: The jumping creatures look awkward in their jumping motion and the fact that Edmund has the same issue Peter had in Caspian, did they have to do that again?
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Reepicheep's been recast...again. This time by Simon Pegg.

I have to admit, between Bill Nighy and Simon Pegg, I think Pegg's a better choice since it's easier for me to hear him doing an Eddie Izzard impression than Nighy. Still, I wonder what went wrong with both Izzard and Nighy for this to happen. It also makes me wonder who the heck we're hearing as Reepicheep in the teaser trailer. Outtakes by Izzard from Prince Caspian? Nighy before he got replaced? Pegg as we'll hear him in the final film?

And a thought just occurred to me. I adore Bill Nighy and would love to see him in this franchise. The perfect role for him just came to me when making this post: Puddleglum in The Silver Chair.
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so, remind me why Eddie Izzard isnt doing an impression of Eddie Izzard in this movie?
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New trailer:
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I had a chance to see the first trailer on the big screen, and after seeing this 2nd one, I am actually liking it better.
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While the first one is more comprehensive since it's a theatrical teaser (this one is a DVD teaser only shown on Diary of a Wimpy Kid), I do like this second one better. It's a bit more skillfully edited and gives the film more of an epic feel the first one was lacking.

The effects still need some work (Reepicheep on the mast, Lilliandil's entrance, the mermaid), but there's plenty of time for that. Conversely, Aslan looks excellent and dare I say better than he does in LWW and PC. There's less of a digital sheen to his face, and it's not as overly animated.

The mystery of where the four Pevensies are together is still just as baffling as ever, though. Dream sequence? I'm almost positive, but the location and context are unclear.
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I do agree with Disneykid. After all, it is a theatrical trailer.
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Three clips have been released:

http://www.narniaweb.com/2010/08/three- ... n-treader/

They're obviously edited to a heavy degree, so they're not fully indicative of what's in the final film. Still, I like what I'm seeing. The cinematography is noticeably different from the first two with more of a handheld feel. This doesn't bother me, and I'm glad to see this looks more film-like than the rather digital-looking trailer.

I was taken aback by Eustace at first. Maybe it's because I'm too used to the Eustace from the BBC miniseries, but Will Poulter's deliveries weren't what I was expecting. After a few seconds, though, I he started to grow on me. I like how he delivers all of his lines very forcefully and curtly, and he's more animated than I imagined. This is obviously indicative of Poulter's acting because he speaks more fluidly and carefully in the third clip.

It's interesting how the second clip takes place in a sort of ravine rather than in a cave like the book. It does feel less claustrophobic than a cave set would. We also hear our first line from the mysterious little girl people keep wondering about.

I do think the writing in the third clip's a little too obvious and not as subtly handled the way Edmund's conversion was in LWW, but perhaps it'll play better in the actual film where the dialogue's allowed to breathe.
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Disneykid wrote:Three clips have been released:

http://www.narniaweb.com/2010/08/thr...-dawn-treader/

They're obviously edited to a heavy degree, so they're not fully indicative of what's in the final film. Still, I like what I'm seeing. The cinematography is noticeably different from the first two with more of a handheld feel. This doesn't bother me, and I'm glad to see this looks more film-like than the rather digital-looking trailer.

I was taken aback by Eustace at first. Maybe it's because I'm too used to the Eustace from the BBC miniseries, but Will Poulter's deliveries weren't what I was expecting. After a few seconds, though, I he started to grow on me. I like how he delivers all of his lines very forcefully and curtly, and he's more animated than I imagined. This is obviously indicative of Poulter's acting because he speaks more fluidly and carefully in the third clip.

It's interesting how the second clip takes place in a sort of ravine rather than in a cave like the book. It does feel less claustrophobic than a cave set would. We also hear our first line from the mysterious little girl people keep wondering about.

I do think the writing in the third clip's a little too obvious and not as subtly handled the way Edmund's conversion was in LWW, but perhaps it'll play better in the actual film where the dialogue's allowed to breathe.
When I went on that page, the clips had dissapeared.
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Sorry about that. It's fixed, now.
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Don't worry, it's okay. Thanks.
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I can't wait for this! I loved the first film and very much liked the second, so even with a different studio I have high hopes for number three. It's probably my favourite of the books, and should make for a really fun and action packed film, I'm imagining something a little like Jason And Argonauts or Sinbad, a thrilling sea adventure. I'm at a loss to explain what the White Witch is doing in it though? Much as I adore Tilda Swinton, it seems very pointless!
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I do hope that the other 4 books in the series get made into movies. With Harry Potter finishing up now, Narnia will be able to take the reigns in the family-friendly fantasy genre.

I'd like to see Disney reboot The Chronicles of Prydain series. If not as an animated series, then live action movies.

I really wish Walden and Fox didn't screw-up The Dark is Rising, but they did. Could also use a reboot, but done properly and made so all five books in the sequence could get screen-time.
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i saw the clips...and im nearly crying..prepare for the worst....they look hideous...the acting is bad...the camera-work worse..and the computer-graphics like being robbed from a bad b-movie.....the scene with eustace on the dragon-island is so awfull..you dont even see him being transformed...the trailer looked so fairytale-like and good...this looks so bad..
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Barbossa wrote:I really wish Walden and Fox didn't screw-up The Dark is Rising, but they did. Could also use a reboot, but done properly and made so all five books in the sequence could get screen-time.
I love The Dark is Rising series and was initially excited that a film was being made. Imagine my disappointment to see how the film ripped the book to shreds. I'm not a book purist and actually encourage changes to suit the film format, but all of the film's "original" ideas were ripped from better stories. I actually think the book series would make a great miniseries. They're very ponderous books, so there's less of a need to rush things and add in action when you're dealing with television.
Toky wrote:the scene with eustace on the dragon-island is so awfull..you dont even see him being transformed...
Well, you do realize these clips are heavily edited, right? They play out almost like trailers for the scenes they represent. I'm pretty sure we'll see Eustace transform, unless they want to keep that a surprise so that when the dragon appears, the film audience doesn't know it's Eustace at first.
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Well, you do realize these clips are heavily edited, right? They play out almost like trailers for the scenes they represent. I'm pretty sure we'll see Eustace transform, unless they want to keep that a surprise so that when the dragon appears, the film audience doesn't know it's Eustace at first.
i didn't know, i hoped they were/are edited...fingers crossed,so that the movie doesn't look like a cheap b-film
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King Louis 2010 wrote:I can't wait for this! I loved the first film and very much liked the second, so even with a different studio I have high hopes for number three. It's probably my favourite of the books, and should make for a really fun and action packed film, I'm imagining something a little like Jason And Argonauts or Sinbad, a thrilling sea adventure. I'm at a loss to explain what the White Witch is doing in it though? Much as I adore Tilda Swinton, it seems very pointless!
I agree with your latter statement.

I absolutely LOVED the first film. The second film had it's moment, but was overall a bit dissapointing. It's a pity that Disney aren't doing this film anymore, though.
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Its only a pity on Disney's part, not ours. This movie should be just as good as the other two. Clips look great, albeit unfinished and chopped up.
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