Finding Dory

[ianwahlers]

Exactly.

Oh, and back more on topic, I generally have more faith in Pixar's sequels than Disney's because Pixar still (to the best of my knowledge) has waited for the original writer and/or director of each film to come back to do their own sequels (if they wanted to) rather than just pump it out with whomever can make it the quickest.

And on a OCD sidenote, how do you guys organize your Pixar films: chronologically, alphabetically, or a combination of both (i.e. you will eventally put Finding Dory after Finding Nemo instead of strict alphabetical order)?

[kbehm29]

Re: OCD Sidenote

I organize my Pixar Blu-rays in chronological order, except if there is a sequel - then I have to put it next to the original. I even have Mater's Tall Tales next to Cars and Cars 2. I keep the 2 Pixar Short collections at the end.

[DisneyAnimation88]

I can't simply "shut up and accept a stupid sequel for what it is" like you expect me to do. There ARE people besides me who are NOT fans of them, as even Disney eventually owned up to after a while.

Don't go and see the film then. If you don't like sequels or think this one will tarnish your view of Finding Nemo then avoid it and don't put yourself in a position where you could be disappointed.

[ianwahlers]

Re: OCD Sidenote

I organize my Pixar Blu-rays in chronological order, except if there is a sequel - then I have to put it next to the original. I even have Mater's Tall Tales next to Cars and Cars 2. I keep the 2 Pixar Short collections at the end.

I started with all chronological with the first Pixar Shorts collection at the beginning since it fit there.

However, with the 2nd Shorts collection containing later shorts I just stuck it up after the first one but may end up moving both to the end of the collection now. I put the Mater collection with them.

I'm still undecided if I want to put the sequels after the originals or keep it all strictly chronological. At this point it's still not hard to find which one I'm looking for so it's not that important.

The big question later would be if Planes should eventually get put with them (if I buy it) since it's not Pixar.

[David S.]

I'm excited. Finding Nemo has been, and likely will always be, my favorite Pixar film of all time. To be able to revisit this world in another film is a dream come true. That's the wonderful thing about storytelling. We can go anytime, anyplace, and still enjoy a revisit to an old favorite. Why else do we re-read a favorite novel, re-watch a favorite movie, and secretly look forward to what a remake has to offer? The characters live on, the world keeps turning, and it's only a matter of time before we're allowed to return, if we're allowed at all. I'm very glad to see that Pixar's decided to allow us to return to this world. If Toy Story 3 and trailers for Monsters University are any indication, we're in for some fun that was worth the wait.

Well said. Finding Nemo has always been my absolute favorite Pixar film and I am looking forward to spending more time with these characters and settings. If for some reason the film would disappoint me, that would in no way taint my love and enjoyment of the original. I don't even have a problem with Cars 2, which I rank somewhere between #7 and #10 out of the 13 Pixar films (for my taste), although the original is Top 2 or 3 for me.

For example, is The Empire Strikes Back any worse of a film simply because it was followed up by Return of the Jedi?

Not in my eyes, considering Jedi is my favorite of the 6 Star Wars films made to date!

PS/OT. Nice to see you again, Albert! Are you still into Merlin? I've seen the first 8 episodes of the final season weeks ago, before SyFy put it on hiatus with the announcement that the rest would air in May.

[kbehm29]

Re: OCD Sidenote

I organize my Pixar Blu-rays in chronological order, except if there is a sequel - then I have to put it next to the original. I even have Mater's Tall Tales next to Cars and Cars 2. I keep the 2 Pixar Short collections at the end.

I'm still undecided if I want to put the sequels after the originals or keep it all strictly chronological. At this point it's still not hard to find which one I'm looking for so it's not that important.

The big question later would be if Planes should eventually get put with them (if I buy it) since it's not Pixar.

I didn't think about that until now. I will most likely put Planes after Mater's Tall Tales. I know this because I put Voyage of the Dawn Treader with Disney's two Chronicle of Narnia Blu-rays, even though it's not made by Disney. I just can't separate the three - that wouldn't be right. I still hate that Disney gave up making that series. I think they made a bad decision about the release date for Prince Caspian.

Back on topic though - I watched the video clip of Ellen announcing the sequel on her show and I am very happy for her. I think that I will look forward to this sequel, and keep my hopes high.

[Semaj]

I can't simply "shut up and accept a stupid sequel for what it is" like you expect me to do. There ARE people besides me who are NOT fans of them, as even Disney eventually owned up to after a while.

Don't go and see the film then. If you don't like sequels or think this one will tarnish your view of Finding Nemo then avoid it and don't put yourself in a position where you could be disappointed.

I'd rather not be in any position where I'm ignoring Pixar.

Fuck this shit.

[SWillie!]

I'd rather not be in any position where I'm ignoring Pixar.

Fuck this shit.

Are you trolling? Or are you genuinely this upset about a movie studio making a movie with already existing characters?

Sotiris, I know you told me to let people be negative if they want to be negative, but come on ^^^

[DisneyAnimation88]

I'd rather not be in any position where I'm ignoring Pixar.

Fuck this shit.

Personally I don't see the big deal here but there is an original Pixar film also being released in 2015, Pete Docter's Inside Out. Before that we have The Good Dinosaur which is released next year and Lee Unkrich's Day of the Dead film that is scheduled for 2016. So it's not like Pixar are only in the sequels game, there's still plenty of original material to look forward to in the next few years.

[Flanger-Hanger]

Another low risk, high profit investment for Disney that will do great work at expanding franchise potential and brand value, while further justifying the price of the Pixar acquisition.






...well, at least I tried to be positive.

[Escapay]

A Christmas Carol has been run into the ground. It's been adapted so many times not because of it's continuing potential but because of Hollywood's lack of originality and fear of risk-taking. It's easier and safer to adapt a well-known pre-existing property rather than coming up with something new and different.

But surely we can still see something new and different within each adaptation of the story. It's part of giving other voices a chance to show their prowess at taking an old story and giving it new life.

One of the best adaptations is from "Doctor Who"'s 2010 Christmas special. It plays around with the idea of ghosts of Christmas past, present, and future, while still offering an original tale that genuinely infuses the very essence of A Christmas Carol.

I hope I'm not coming across as some sort of "Christmas Carol" groupie, lol. I just enjoy the ability to see how different people create different versions of the same story. What do they bring, what do they keep, what do they focus on, etc. It's a fun way to see how timeless tales can take on new meanings and interpretations when different storytellers are at the helm. I see sequels generally the same way. What more can we do with a character or situation that hasn't been done before? What kind of untapped stories are left to tell within these worlds? Sometimes a "happily ever after" will do the trick, but it's always nice to peer beyond the last page and see if there's more pure enchantment and more sheer delight...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYU9pROIH8[/youtube]

For example, is The Empire Strikes Back any worse of a film simply because it was followed up by Return of the Jedi?

Not in my eyes, considering Jedi is my favorite of the 6 Star Wars films made to date!

LOL. Personally, ROTJ is a favorite to watch (simply because it's so ridiculous at times), but I think ESB is the better movie (the best of the six, really).

PS/OT. Nice to see you again, Albert! Are you still into Merlin? I've seen the first 8 episodes of the final season weeks ago, before SyFy put it on hiatus with the announcement that the rest would air in May.

Thanks, Dave. I decided to stick around after the forum upgrade.

Sadly, I haven't had a chance to catch up on "Merlin" due to student teaching, along with my own general sadness that this is the final series. I'm just going to pick up the DVD on Tuesday and watch the episodes eventually. I'd rather stretch it out to last forever than marathon through them and know it's the end.

Albert

[Sotiris]

But surely we can still see something new and different within each adaptation of the story. It's part of giving other voices a chance to show their prowess at taking an old story and giving it new life.

I'm not arguing against adaptations of an original work. I'm simply criticizing Hollywood's overuse of this practice. Surely, even you must feel frustrated by the incessant remakes/reboots/reimaginings that seem to be plaquing Hollywood lately.

[Sotiris]

Sorry for the absence, but... Twitter silence for 6 months = Finding Dory (and more.) #staytuned

Source: http://twitter.com/andrewstanton/status ... 6083435520


More? Hmm. Could the report be accurate and as exchange for Finding Dory, Disney will give Stanton another chance to direct a live-action film?

[Atlantica]

I am in two minds about this; it truly does not need a sequel having such a perfect ending the way it did. BUT the characters were just so brilliant, I would like to see them again, against my better judgment. I also think Ellen's mad excitement for it has also rubbed off on me too

I would like this to be just as brilliant, if not more so, than Toy Story 2 was to Toy Story.

(Also, just a side note here; considering Ellen has been hankering after a sequel for so long, why didn't she voice Dory in the parks? I may have that wrong, but I wasn't aware she had involvement in Dory beyond the movie).

[Escapay]

Surely, even you must feel frustrated by the incessant remakes/reboots/reimaginings that seem to be plaquing Hollywood lately.

I think the speed in which they go through with these remakes/reboots/reimaginings could be slowed down a bit (The Amazing Spider-Man being an example, but an understandable one since Sony would lose their licence if they didn't have a movie out by a certain deadline, I think). But so long as it keeps a property alive and helps bring attention to the original work, I'm fine with it on some level. For example, no amount of quirkiness could have saved Tim Burton/Johnny Depp's Dark Shadows, but its re-exposure helped me (and I'm sure others) get re-acquainted with the original series again. And it got the 1970 and 1971 films released to Blu-Ray, albeit without the intended director's cut for Night of Dark Shadows.

Overall, I just like to focus on the positives of what a sequel/remake/whatnot can bring (for itself and the work it's based on), rather than find reasons to dislike it before it's even made.

Albert

[SWillie!]

Overall, I just like to focus on the positives of what a sequel/remake/whatnot can bring (for itself and the work it's based on), rather than find reasons to dislike it before it's even made.

EXACTLY.

[Flanger-Hanger]

Overall, I just like to focus on the positives of what a sequel/remake/whatnot can bring (for itself and the work it's based on), rather than find reasons to dislike it before it's even made.

Albert

That's no fun.

[pinkrenata]

Overall, I just like to focus on the positives of what a sequel/remake/whatnot can bring (for itself and the work it's based on), rather than find reasons to dislike it before it's even made.

Bleh. I'm feeling sort of bored by the whole idea, so I'm just going to keep my big mouth shut and go away.

[Escapay]

Overall, I just like to focus on the positives of what a sequel/remake/whatnot can bring (for itself and the work it's based on), rather than find reasons to dislike it before it's even made.

EXACTLY.

That's no fun.

But it's less stressful.

Bleh. I'm feeling sort of bored by the whole idea, so I'm just going to keep my big mouth shut and go away.

Haha!

If you can bring the type of fun and on-the-spot sarcasm I can rely on (namely from your Disney Princess DVD reviews), by all means, stay and share your thoughts on Finding Dory!

Albert

[Sotiris]

But so long as it keeps a property alive and helps bring attention to the original work, I'm fine with it on some level. For example, no amount of quirkiness could have saved Tim Burton/Johnny Depp's Dark Shadows, but its re-exposure helped me (and I'm sure others) get re-acquainted with the original series again. And it got the 1970 and 1971 films released to Blu-Ray, albeit without the intended director's cut for Night of Dark Shadows.

While I admit there may be a silver lining - mainly the release of the original on home video - I highly doubt that any of these remakes and reboots are needed to reacquaint the audience with the original property. It's like saying that we need trashy pop covers of classic songs for the same reason. That appears as a mere rationalization of a harmful practice that is solely financially motivated. You talk about the positive aspects of such a practice yet you ignore the negative effects it has on cinema and on culture at large.

I do believe that overuse and over reliance on franchise-building can be artistically detrimental as it stifles creativity and originality. It's not a coincidence that more often than not these remakes and sequels are awful.