Pinocchio Platinum Edition Discussion Thread

[singerguy04]

I think we can expect cover art within the next few weeks.

[SpringHeelJack]

Not a fan of the cover art. It's a bit late to differentiate from the standard floating heads over title thing for me. And why is Jiminy on the spine? Gosh, that really burns my toast.

[singerguy04]

Not a fan of the cover art. It's a bit late to differentiate from the standard floating heads over title thing for me. And why is Jiminy on the spine? Gosh, that really burns my toast.

What are you talking about, it hasn't been posted yet.... has it? I can't find it if it has.

[rs_milo_whatever]

It's on the upcoming DVD cover art section; I think it kind of looks like a cd cover.

[singerguy04]

Wow, that's pretty hidious imo. I think the title needs to be centered. Other than that I don't mind it as much. The title placing just distroys it, why wouldn't they center it.

Also the banner on the top says 2-Disc Platinum Edition, that should change back to just plain ol' Platinum Edition, same for the Blu-ray. I didn't like how it said 2-Disc Platinum on Sleeping Beauty for the Blu-ray.

[Escapay]

Who's willing to bet it's the Special Edition DVD, except with a flashy new slipcover/cover art/disc art, DMR points, and a new "Fun with Languages" game?

albert

What's a Fun With Languange game?

It's an abomination on Disney DVDs that started with Peter Pan: Platinum Edition. Allegedly it tries to teach youngsters new words, by using the film as a reference. On Peter Pan it's nothing but the film...with colorful subtitles that are differentiated by a different character's head as an icon so kids know who's talking.

On other DVDs, they've actually tried to turn it into a game of sorts, but all it does is insult the intelligence of the viewer.

And reading the list of specs that Fflewduur posted, let me be the first to say THANK GOD they don't list Fun With Language.

UD says it will include "The Sweat Box." That isn't the ENG documentary, is it?

No, it's a featurette about the history of the Sweat Box, like how it was used and how important it is to Disney animation.

DVD BONUS FEATURES

DISC ONE

• Pinocchio’s Matter of Facts - - Learn fun facts about Pinocchio and other related subjects as you watch the movie.

• Audio Commentary -- An all-new audio commentary with Leonard Maltin, Eric Goldberg and J. B. Kaufman.

• Disney Song Selection -- Select this option to sing along with favorite songs as the lyrics appear onscreen.

DISC TWO

•No Strings Attached: The Making of Pinocchio -- Witness the behind-the scenes magic that transformed Carlo Collodi’s popular book into a classic animated film.

•Deleted Scenes --

* The Story of the Grandfather Tree -- Kindly Geppetto tells Pinocchio about the Great Pine Tree from which Pinocchio is descended.

* In The Belly Of The Whale -- The most elaborate of Pinocchio’s deleted scenes that remain in the Disney Archives, these recently discovered storyboards reveal a different version of Geppetto inside Monstro.

• Alternate Ending -- A recently uncovered set of small storyboard panels reveal plans for a different version of Pinocchio becoming a real boy.

• The Sweat Box -- The Sweatbox was a small projection room at the Disney studio where Walt critiqued story reels, rough animation, and dailies of films in progress with his anxious artists.
This piece traces the history of the Sweatbox and brings to life this important part of Walt Disney’s artistic process.

• Live Action Reference Footage

• Pinocchio Art Galleries

• Deleted Songs -- An audio collection of period “pop” recordings of songs that not used in the final film.

• Pinocchio Puzzles -- Hosted by Jiminy Cricket, Pinocchio’s Puzzles is a multi-tiered Puzzle game that contains six unique wooden puzzles for the viewer to assemble. Each puzzle forms an image from the film that comes to life once they are complete.

I'm all giddy for "No Strings Attached", hope it'll continue with the quality and calibre of the past few docs (why oh why didn't they do this for Peter Pan?!?), even if it's likely not going to be my preferred length (90 minutes). One thing I hope (and expect) that they'll discuss is how Gideon was originally to be voiced by Mel Blanc (he did several recordings), but the filmmakers ultimately decided to make him mute like Dopey. In addition, I'd love if the early part of the doc could cover the original designs for Pinocchio (in which he's not instantly likeable and looks more puppety) and Gepetto (a more crotchety old man with a rather domineering personality like Doc).

I'm surprised (and excited) at the listing for live-action reference footage, as it's not exactly something easy to come by apparently (Peter Pan, I'm looking at you!).

Regarding the deleted scenes, there are a few that are discussed in David Koenig's Mouse Under Glass that are not mentioned so they either don't exist as storyboards anymore, or the DVD producer probably didn't know about them, or didn't think they'd be worth including:

-Alternate climax to Stromboli's marionette show - it was to include a jungle scene complete with Ubangi puppets.

-Pleasure Island Montage - showing additional "bad things" kids could do there. Some really morbid stuff like a shooting gallery where cops are the targets, and burning teachers in effigy.

-Bogyland - a darker area of Pleasure Island, with monsters.

Honest John & Gideon Follow Pinocchio - the PI Coachman says he'll pay the pair to retrieve Pinoke, so they follow him (and we'd have seen a montage of him and Jiminy returning home, battling the weather, hiding his donkey parts, etc.), then eventually be caught by the law.

If the laserdisc and other PE's are any indication, we'll likely see these for the art galleries:

Visual Development - which can likely encompass three sections of the laserdisc's galleries: "Gustaf Tenggren's Studies For Pinocchio", "Early Conceptual Drawings", and "Inspirational Paintings". I'd rather have a separate Tenggren gallery, but oh well.

Storyboard Art - new stuff, though it could include the laserdisc's "Conceptual Drawings For Scenes Never Used" gallery (though that itself could be the source of the deleted scenes that will be presented)

Layouts & Backgrounds - including "Color Call-Outs" and "Background Paintings"

Character Design - standard stuff, along with "Animators' Models" and "Animators' Model Sheets"

Live-Action Reference

Production Photos - b&w photos

Publicity

No mention of trailers, even though the 1940, 1984, and 1992 were used in the laserdisc. Well, that's one reason to hold on to the old disc, it's got the 1940 trailer.

Regarding the cover, it's more than likely I'll only see it a few times, as I put my DVDs in a binder, so the cases usually stay on the shelf and I don't spread them out on my bed and stare at them like some wide-eyed fan. So it's design isn't too big a deal for me. But it definitely could be better.

albert

[disneyboy20022]

Cool...Pinocchio Comes to Disney DVD and Blu Ray on my 22nd Birthday

I actually Love the cover art.....

and as for the spine I agree Jimminy isn't the best choice to be on it however I don't think it's the worst idea...I mean they could have added the Blue Fairy on the spine for the Blu Ray

Although I don't like how the Blue Fairy appears on the cover itself..it reminds me of how another Disney Character appears in the stars..Mufassa in The Lion King when he says this

Simba, You are my Son and the One True King

[Disneykid]

I'm positive that cover art is just a mock-up. There has only been one PE whose first revealed cover ended up being the finalized one (The Little Mermaid). Every other Platinum cover shown to the public has been altered afterwards, sometimes more than once. Pinocchio and Gepetto on the new cover are both taken from previous ones (Pinocchio from the 1993 VHS, Gepetto from the Gold Classic DVD). The Blue Fairy and Monstro are taken from the 1992 re-release posters (Blue Fairy from the teaser, Monstro from the final one). Observe:







Platinum cover art which I'm not using img tags on since it'd be eating up too much bandwidth directly from this site.

Only Jiminy and Figaro seem like new pieces. I'm sure this cover will be altered for the better before March. I like the overall feel of it. I just think it needs better composition.

As for the bonus materials, they sound fantastic. If you think about, this is the last Platinum with mostly new features. Snow White and Fantasia will undoubtedly port over most of their previous DVD content as will distant re-releases like Beauty and the Beast.

I'm especially interested in The Sweatbox featurette as it has the potential to be something frank and honest ala the Sequence 8 featurette on Sleeping Beauty. It also looks like Leonard Maltin will be the go-to guy for commentaries, now, based on this and Sleeping Beauty. That's fine by me since he always has a lot of interesting things to say, and I really hope he does a commentary for Alice when that hits BD (Platinum or not). The lack of trailer mentioning is a little worrying, but I'll be optimistic and hope Disney just didn't think them worth noting on the press release (which has happened before).

[DisneyFreak5282]

I wouldn't be too disappointed if this wound up being the final edition of the cover art. I like it better than 101D or TJB (the SB one was alright).

[PeterPanfan]

It doesn't sound like that many bonus features, but I'm sure some will be added. I'm EXTREMELY excited for this!!

[Stats87]

It doesn't really fit the pattern of other Platinum cover arts

[JDCB1986]

I think it's safe to say that there will be some tweaking to the cover art, but I am glad that they are kind of moving on from the "head above the title, with a sprinkling of other characters underneath" format. And for the most part, I think this is one of the strongest covers in the Platinum Collection.

I think Pinocchio himself needs to be tweaked slightly (maybe a bit more shading on his nose.) Figaro's eyes need fixing, he looks like he's about to kill Geppetto and then maybe changing the colour of the logo. It doesn't go that well with the colour scheme of the rest of the cover. And also seems to get lost with the pale blue on the spine.

Too, I like the way Merriweather isn't in a box on the spine of Sleeping Beauty, I hope they keep that up and remove the box around Jiminy !

And finally... Adding the word "Edition" after "70th Anniversary" on the spine.

[Simba3]

I don't like the logo very much, I much prefer the logo we see in the Platinum Edition trailer.

I'm not sure how I feel about the cover. I think it looks off centered and kind of strange. It's different than most, and I don't think I like it. I think I DO prefer the title centered.

Now, I haven't seen the film in a long time, so my memory may have just failed me- but why is he holding an apple? It seems random to me, but it probably isn't. What is the significance of that?

[TheSequelOfDisney]

I actually really like Pinocco's coverart. The only thing that really needs to be tweaked is Pinocchio himself. Something that would also be cool would have the slipcover holographic over Pinocco so that when you turn it he would turn into a real boy. Just a thought.

The bonus features sound pretty good, though lack of trailers is kinda worriesome. If they just follow my outline of all the bonus features in the Ultimate DVD/Blu-ray thread, the Blu-ray would be simply amazing (though that won't happen).

I'm pleased so far.

[DisneyJedi]

I really am glad this is being re-released. I had a taped copy, but that one got busted when I tried rewinding it one day.

Basically, I was trying to rewind the movie, then the tape got jammed. I tried to pull the tape out, only for the film in the tape to snap and break.

Therefore, I'm glad the movie's being re-released so soon. ^_^

[rs_milo_whatever]

but why is he holding an apple? It seems random to me, but it probably isn't. What is the significance of that?

My brother asked the same thing; doesn't Geppetto give him an apple when he goes off to school?

[Simba3]

but why is he holding an apple? It seems random to me, but it probably isn't. What is the significance of that?

My brother asked the same thing; doesn't Geppetto give him an apple when he goes off to school?

And it's not just that he's holding the apple, but that he looks completely enthralled with it, as if it is the most fascinating thing he has ever seen. The cover makes it look like the apple is an intricate part of the story. It's works on Snow White's cover art, obviously, but not on this one.

[rs_milo_whatever]

perhaps he should be holding Jiminy

[yukitora]

Aww, they changed the logo!

I don't really like the layout of the cover. The blue-border on the DVD kinda makes it all seem very cramped, so hopefully they'll changed that. I was hoping for a more organic look for Pinocchio, seeing as how he's made out of wood and all. I wonder if the only reason they're associating blue with Pinocchio is to promote the new format.

[Escapay]

If they just follow my outline of all the bonus features in the Ultimate DVD/Blu-ray thread, the Blu-ray would be simply amazing (though that won't happen).

If it's any consolation, at least one of your ideas from the Ultimate thread was used.

And they did use the title "No Strings Attached" for the documentary, which is what I posted in my (completely incomplete) Ultimate idea circa April 2007. Of course, it's a common phrase, but I would have figured Disney might have gone with the "let's take a song name or lyric from a song!" approach as they did for several of the Platinum docs ("Tale as Old As Time", "You Can Fly", "Treasures Untold", "The Bare Necessities", etc.). Then again, I got the idea for the "No Strings Attached" title from the comps we'd give guests in the parks (be it a fastpass, a free snack, a merch replacement, etc.), so it does come full circle back to Disney...

albert