LK was promoted out the waahoo.. Movies, Plays, Soundtracks, Merchandise.. You couldn't go anywhere without seeing that Lion on everything.. I'm surprised McDonalds didn't change teh shape of the logo to a lion.DisneyFan 2000 wrote:Seems like The Lion King overshadows everything else, as usual: Pocahontas and every other classic from that point, Aladdin's DVD, even Disney's other sequels are shameful compared to Lion King 1.5/II...
Um.. What? You have to go into more detail than that!Mr. Toad wrote:They just cant seem to let go of the past as a population.
How long have you got? Do we need to do an American history course starting with the importation of slaves up into present day? An entire analysis could take months.Lightyear wrote:Um.. What? You have to go into more detail than that!Mr. Toad wrote:They just cant seem to let go of the past as a population.
When you get time, explain how slavery is still happening in present day.Mr. Toad wrote:How long have you got? Do we need to do an American history course starting with the importation of slaves up into present day?
I know I'm getting a wee bit off topic, but I want to warn you Lightyear that I was told by a moderator once that I should never post a message with just an emoticon.Lightyear wrote:Mr. Toad wrote:How long have you got? Do we need to do an American history course starting with the importation of slaves up into present day?
Thanks for the forwarning chay.chaychay102royal wrote:I know I'm getting a wee bit off topic, but I want to warn you Lightyear that I was told by a moderator once that I should never post a message with just an emoticon.
. I couldn't believe what I was hearing and from that day on, I knew people didn't remember it. And oh yea, let's not forget what my friend said. "It came out on DVD, when?"
I think Mr. Toad is talking about the scars that were left on the nation from the Civil War. The US has yet to fully heal from that war.Lightyear wrote:When you get time, explain how slavery is still happening in present day.Mr. Toad wrote:How long have you got? Do we need to do an American history course starting with the importation of slaves up into present day?
Actually, the Sultan says it a couple of times, but I really never noticed it. For one instance, when he has a fight with Jasmine at the very beginning, he turns to Rajah and says "Allah forbid you should have any daughters!" or something like that. Still, it's much more vague than the stuff shown in Mulan or even Pocahontas.chaychay102royal wrote:I don't think it was about racism at all. I haven't seen Aladdin in years, but I don't recall any mention of Allah.
I simply didnt' buy the DVD because it didn't include the original theatrical version.Prince Eric wrote:I hope I'm not opening up a can of worms here, but I think I've waited long enough from the Aladdin: Platinum Edition release to suggest this.
About two years ago, I wrote a journalism piece that won a national award about Disney and their marketing strategies. A good chunk of it was concentrating on Aladdin, especially the delays in its DVD release. As everyone may know, it was moved back a year and switched with The Lion King. The reason was supposedly to cross-promote the animal friendly Brother Bear. In my opinion, this raises the first big question mark.Besides the fact that they're animal movies, they have no connection, and one was being released on DVD and the other touted for the big screen. I did a little research, and found an obscure chat transcript with someone who had been involved in the Aladdin production and said things were coming full circle. Aladdin had been postponed for production/theatrical release because of the Gulf War, and he said now, the events of 9/11 were preventing the DVD release. In other words, Disney wanted to give the public an additional full-year before releasing the DVD release of Aladdin, a film based on Arab folklore and a movie that made mention of Allah.
In my piece, I mentioned (half-sarcastically) that perhaps Disney has realized that there once properous franchise has been ruined - I mean, would families who had loved ones in Iraq by a movie with Arab characters, no matter how "Americanized" or "Disneyfied" they were? I didn't really take my rant seriously, but when 2004 ended, and it was reported that Aladdin was a dissapointment on DVD, I couldn't help but wonder if what I had written was really true. Now, I'm not saying America is racist and anti-Arab (and I KNOW no one on here is, because we all bought like, two copies of the Aladdin: Platinum Edition DVD), but what I DO think is that maybe American as a whole has decided to push Aladdin out of the popular zeitgeist. American is just conflicted, uncertain, and uncomfortable in this regard. While people will never say it directly, I do feel that the situation in Iraq may have had something to do with poor sales. Say what you must, but the point is, it IS a possibility.
What why didn't you? It's not like they added a crappy song or anything, the changes were great IMO. Now people don't have to hear, "Good Teenages, take off your clothes!"Son Of Flubber wrote: I simply didnt' buy the DVD because it didn't include the original theatrical version.
I believe it's more important to preserve these films rather than alter them.Timon/Pumba fan wrote:What why didn't you? It's not like they added a crappy song or anything, the changes were great IMO. Now people don't have to hear, "Good Teenages, take off your clothes!"Son Of Flubber wrote: I simply didnt' buy the DVD because it didn't include the original theatrical version.
I know that we had near-life-size cut-outs of Jafar, who looks very ethnic (and I think bares resemblance to Osama bin Laden, actually) to place throughout stores, so I don't think Disney wanted to shy away from reminding people that there were Arabs in the movie. But then Jafar's the bad guy so I guess you could argue that they didn't mind that as muchMinnieMe wrote:I also agree that promotions for Aladdin were lacking compared to other DVD releases (it's one of my favorite movies and I don't remember any promotions that caught my eye). This very well may have been due to fears about Arabic influences.
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