What did you think of: The Three Musketeers?

[Sir Hawkins]

Pehaps, Ciaobelli, it's none of your concern. Though that didn't seem to stop you last time, as I was addressing Poppins#1 and not you.

I could be wrong, but last time I checked this was a PUBLIC forum open for all to comment on anything said to anybody. If you really didn't want anybody elses input than you should have used email or PM.

Back on topic, I've got Three Musketeers coming from half.com for only $12.99, just ordered it last night. I hope nobody paid $25.49 retail at Amazon.

[yoda_four]

Oh and in no way is this even in the same league as Mickey's Christmas Carol or the Prince and the Pauper.

Just to expand on what I said.. I believe this film is better than both those 30 minute specials; even though I found P&P quite similar in story and animation quality. X-mas Carol is harder to compare, as its much more different than Musketeers and P&P. But, in the end, all three are wonderful, considering when they were made.

[Jack]

I really enjoyed TTM. I think most of it has to do with my nostalgiac feeling for the characters, since I grew up with the cartoon shorts and Prince and the Pauper was one of my fav videos to watch as a kid. But the story was pretty good, the movie had a nice brisk pace, and it was just fun.

The thing I missed was Donald's temper. The coward thing worked well for this particular story, but I hope they don't make that a part of Donald's personality in future incarnations of the duck. That's part of what made the original trio so great - optomistic & cheerful Mickey, niave & dumb Goofy, and pessimistic & irritable Donald! The trio isn't as great with that missing link.

[DisneyGirl]

I could be wrong, but last time I checked this was a PUBLIC forum open for all to comment on anything said to anybody. If you really didn't want anybody elses input than you should have used email or PM.

Public forum yes, but there are still things as conversations between two people. A discussion or someone asking for an opinion is one thing, but when two people are conversing (or arguing) a third party may not be welcome. There are many instances where others have used the boards to reply to one person since I was a Newbie...perhaps telling them the same thing is only fair?

In any case, you're right, lets move on.
I got the Three Musketeers yesterday from this small store by my house for $12.99. They almost never have new releases, I was so surprised when they had it.

[Just Myself]

So... disappointed....

MINOR SPOILERS

It had some funny parts, but other than that, annoying, stupid and just plain silly. I was really hoping Donald was gonna kill that frickin' turtle near the end. The funniest part was my friend Cayla:

Cayla:*near the end*Please don't sing again, please don't sing again...
Turtle: And that is the end of this story! But I think it's time for one...
Cayla: PLEASE don't sing again...
Turtle:.. more...
Cayla: PLEASEDONTSINGAGAINPLEASEDONTSINGAGAINPLEASEDONTSINGAGAIN
Turtle:.. SONG!!!
Me, Cayla and my other friend: NOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[castleinthesky]

I liked the movie, but the animation was weak(good for a DTV). Donald should not of been portrayed as a chicken. No I'm going to see all these little kids saying, "Donald turned into a chicken! " Also I though Clarabelle and Horace were a couple; not Clarabelle and Goofy.

[Loomis]

I'm surprised at the generally poor comments this has been getting, as I really enjoyed it.

Like almost every Disney film, it is based on another (older) story, so liberties are going to be taken. This film flat out acknowledges that they aren't really doing that story (the signatures on Mickey's hat), and from the start the tongue is firmly in cheek. I think what I liked most about the film is the willingness to mock the characters. "Donald - I can't understand a word you say". The willingness to break down the "fourth wall" is refreshing from a studio that often takes its feature length films quite seriously. I was laughing out loud more than once.

The use of peripheral characters was also quite clever, and I especially enjoyed the large performance of Clarabelle Cow.

The songs were a little poor though. Simply adding lyrics to existing tunes works well in a Disney short (which this was definitely in the tradition of), but on a feature length basis it wears thin after a while.

The one thing I REALLY didn't like was Fastplay. In and of itself, it is an ok idea. I think it dumbs down the format, but I could live with it if I had to. However, the subtitles over the credits of the film "Stay tuned after the film for a selection of features" is REALLY poor. You get that sort of thing on television, not a a major digital release from a leading studio.

In the end, I really enjoyed the film simply because I have always enjoyed the Mickey/Donald/Goofy dynamic. I love these sorts of ventures because, like the House of Mouse, it is more than willing to mock the sacred cows but at the same time they are celebrating them. Compared with the other 'self-mocking' film of this year (Lion King 1.5) I'd say it is leaps and bounds ahead.

[DisneyGirl]

I'm surprised at the generally poor comments this has been getting, as I really enjoyed it.

Like almost every Disney film, it is based on another (older) story, so liberties are going to be taken. This film flat out acknowledges that they aren't really doing that story (the signatures on Mickey's hat), and from the start the tongue is firmly in cheek. I think what I liked most about the film is the willingness to mock the characters. "Donald - I can't understand a word you say". The willingness to break down the "fourth wall" is refreshing from a studio that often takes its feature length films quite seriously. I was laughing out loud more than once.

The use of peripheral characters was also quite clever, and I especially enjoyed the large performance of Clarabelle Cow.

The songs were a little poor though. Simply adding lyrics to existing tunes works well in a Disney short (which this was definitely in the tradition of), but on a feature length basis it wears thin after a while.

The one thing I REALLY didn't like was Fastplay. In and of itself, it is an ok idea. I think it dumbs down the format, but I could live with it if I had to. However, the subtitles over the credits of the film "Stay tuned after the film for a selection of features" is REALLY poor. You get that sort of thing on television, not a a major digital release from a leading studio.

In the end, I really enjoyed the film simply because I have always enjoyed the Mickey/Donald/Goofy dynamic. I love these sorts of ventures because, like the House of Mouse, it is more than willing to mock the sacred cows but at the same time they are celebrating them. Compared with the other 'self-mocking' film of this year (Lion King 1.5) I'd say it is leaps and bounds ahead.

I agree, I enjoyed Clarabelle's appearance in the film, and many of the things they poked fun at and side references to The MMC and The Lion King were amusing, however, I agree, FastPlay was horrid, and I stated so at fastplaysurvey.com
Hopefully they'll keep those to the preschool DVD and nothing else, (which is what I voted for).

[Jake Lipson]

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I too am very suprised at the negative response. I just got this and loved it. I thought the classic trio was well realized and respected faithfully while throwing in the irreverance that made it all the more fun. Donald could have been a little more tempered but I think the coward thing really worked for this perticular situation, and his temper was more than served in the single scene with him and the turtle.

I really loved the mock operatic tone of it -- Pirates of Penzance at the climax was a riot -- and the turtle was very amusing and effective. Has many brilliant lines, including "When the villian is that happy it can only mean one thing - BAD GUY SONG!" Shame that the best one -- French gravy anyone? -- got cut out. I don't really think that cut scene slowed the movie and even if it wasn't, it's so relentless in its pace at other times that leaving that in there wouldn'tve hurt it.

Anyway, it's really late, so I'm going to sign off and sleep. More later.

[DisneyGirl]

"When the villian is that happy it can only mean one thing - BAD GUY SONG!"

Yes, this is one of my favorite quotes from the movie, that and when Pete quotes The MMC and Simba.

[Loomis]

it's so relentless in its pace at other times that leaving that in there wouldn'tve hurt it.

Yes, I think you've summed it up nicely there. It is that great humour that just keeps coming, so even if some jokes fall flat, you have another 15 coming right up.

Very much in the tradition of the old shorts, where the animators would try and "out-gag" each other.

[Sorcerer Mickey]

Did you know that in behind the scenes, they were going to bring back the villains to fight the Musketeers, especially Maleficent? I'm glad it was Pete, because if they faught with Maleficent, it would be an unfair battle!


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Um, yeah! It was a cute movie, definately #1 DTV Movie in my book! However, one bad part was the Turtle singing, I thought that wasn't great at all, but I loved it when Mickey and Minnie first looked at each other, it was beautiful! The jokes were really funny, especially Goofy's mind that was actually an operator's voice! I laughed so hard on that! But my favorite scene was when Goofy and Donald rescue Mickey from prison before he was about to drown. Then, after that, they had a heartwarming friendship talk about the power of friendship, even if Goofy has no brain, or Donald's a coward [Donald: I HEARD THAT!], or if Mickey's too short! If they work together by the power of friendship, nothing can stop them!

So, yeah! I enjoyed it, and definately way ahead of Lion King 1 1/2! #1 in my book, and I can't wait for Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas!

Final Rating: 4.7/5 (.3 deduction for the Turtle's singing)


My favorite quote:

Mickey: We'll save the princess, or die trying!

Donald: .... die?

[castleinthesky]

The #1 DTV in my book is Lady and the Tamp 2!

[Yensid98]

I was able to seeThe Three Musketeers as part of Donald Ducks Hollywood Walk of Fame Star Celebration.

I thought it was the best direct to DVD movie from Disney I have seen. That said, its no feature animation. It plays more like an extended Mouse Works show. Cute, with a few real laughs, but a very flimsy story. The characterizations of Daisy and Clarabell have been drastically altered (and Clarabell seems to have lost her udder). Now Daisy is the worldly-wise mentor of Minnie and Clarabell is a more villainous character. These changes may be just because the characters are "playing" roles in a story, but the more "contemporary" feel of these characters didn't sit well with me.

However i did like the redesign of Minnie and Mickey. Giving Minnie that tuft hear not only helps to further differentiate her from Mickey but also adds many further possibilities for character animation.

Strongest is the animation and voice work. Production wise, the feel is of a top-notch Saturday Morning cartoon. I wish the backgrounds were more detailed and textured, but it is a direct to DVD movie. The children in the audience seemed to really like the movie and appropriately so, as it seems more aimed to children than a general audience. Though there is an occasional wink at an more adult viewer.

One other thing I really didn't like was the music which is all set to widely known classical arrangements such as The Nutcracker Suite. The idea might've worked if the lyrics weren't so bland. If it was an attempt to be Fantasia or Sleeping Beauty, it didn't work. It's undoubtedly the weakest part of the movie.

Still it was great to see the original Mickey gang together again in a new story (especially on a big screen). That was the biggest thrill for me. I would love to see more money and time invested in stories with these characters. I'd suggest renting this before you buy.

[Luke]

Welcome to the forum, Yensid. I agree with most of your comments and insight!

[yoda_four]

Did you know that in behind the scenes, they were going to bring back the villains to fight the Musketeers, especially Maleficent? I'm glad it was Pete, because if they faught with Maleficent, it would be an unfair battle!

Isn't it rather obvious that stuff was made up? The whole "behind-the-scenes" segment was basically tongue-in-cheek: Mick was doing Disneyland, Donald was on TV, Goofy was doing sports. Its all fluff! (well, most of it.) Why would they have that producer guy under the villains pics. Besides, you dont seriously think they would consider importing a villain from a different classic when Pete is already Mickey & Gangs "historic bad guy". It's like taking Jafar and Captain Hook and making em switch movies! I think the only good part about that 10 minute segment was seeing the storyboards and when Donovan Cook said, "They were waiting for the perfect director..... They realized that would take too long so they just settled for me."

[Lumiere]

i enjoyed the movie, the only thing that I hated was the turtle!

[goofystitch]

I thought it was pretty well done. I loved the fact that all of the backgrounds where water color, making it look more like a classic Mickey short than House Of Mouse. Anyways, I thought it was Ok. It could have been better, but I would much rather see more DTV movies like this than sequels. This proves they can do something original.

[Mayhem]

However i did like the redesign of Minnie and Mickey. Giving Minnie that tuft hear not only helps to further differentiate her from Mickey but also adds many further possibilities for character animation.

Agree with that, it was about the first thing I noticed in the film (aside from Tress MacNeile doing Daisy's voice... one thing in so many years I've come to perfectly detect her tones in animation!) and made it better in a way.

I picked this up whilst on holiday in the US last week and watched it Tuesday (hence the bump to this topic). I liked it. Sure there's a few flaws, Clarabelle is woefully underused and her motives aren't that clearly explained why she works with Pete, but she livened up any scene she was actually in. The Opera stuff was funny, Pete always hams it up and it was intriguing to see THAT pegleg back again!

Best gag for me? Mickey attempting to avoid drowing and noticing the sign "You must be this high to survive this dungeon"

[Isidour]

Hi!

certanly it´s not the best DTV Disney movie I´ve ever seen, but it have it magic.

specially on the "donald, I didn´t undestand you" and the Opera´s Walpaper scene.

by the way, does somebody understand the Lion king´s gag than Pete say? (the "I just can´t wait to e king" opera)