Ludwig Von Drake wrote:If the True Life were not from Disnleyland then what were the animal shows that were "advertised" in the first episode of disneyland?
It's too bad that the assorted treasures will not be comming out this year. I was really looking foward to it.
Surely they where showed in one or another form in Disneyland TV show, but the where not CREATED for that show, which I was commented upon earlier. Most of Disney´s work showed up in that TV show sooner or later.
Paka wrote:I'm also wondering what exactly the True-Life Adventures set is gonna have on it...
I´m sure it will only contain the featurettes + some bonus material maybe (maybe in form of the introductions from the TV-shows when they where showed there.)
True Life Adventures makes Wave 4 worth it alone. I haven't seen those since I was a kid. If I remember right, Disney Channel used to play them kind of late at night sometimes. Too bad they don't run them at all anymore.
The Pluto and Mickey set will be good without a doubt. As for the MMC club, I've only seen bits and pieces of them over the years. How long did it run? Seems that there are a lot of episodes to fit on to 2 dvd's. Perhaps this could be the first 3 disc treasure?
Just like Warner Bros didn't think a high-quality Looney Tunes set would sell (so edged their bets on multiple surveys, lower quality alternatives etc) they have now found out that... surprise, surprise, high quality cartoons sets do sell, and it's not just children who are interested in them. The Looney Tunes Golden Collection is still in Amazon's top 50 DVD sellers frequently, and has outselled by a mile the All-Stars collection or the Tom and Jerry compliation discs.
The same is true for Disney and the Treasures. They've seen not only how well the Warner set has sold, but also how well their own Treasures have sold. You know, the numbers that they are printing for these sets aren't that Limited. Not really. A quarter of a million is still a good number of DVDs to print. Even 165,000 is a good number. I doubt any of the cheap and cheerful catalog titles Disney releases have a print run any bigger, and they're just has hard to find in "normal" shops by all accounts.
So in short, Disney have seen that there is a gap in the market, and they they can support the gap and make money. Therefore, they will continue to exploit and benefit from the Treasure releases.
Well, when rumours started a while back that these four would be the 4 sets for wave four, I was so depressed and I prayed that something would change, and for a while it looked like truelife adventures would be replaced by the assorted treasure set, which was somewaht good news, but to now hear that this is indeed the line up for wave 4 is a bit upseting, I personally am not looking forward to the true-life adventures, perhaps I'll see one and my whole view will be changed, but it is doubtful, everyone's dismay at the MMC set has sorta rubbed off on me, and Pluto's cartoons are not among my favorites, but surly are ranked higher than the other 2 sets, the only one I'm REALLY looking forward to is MICKEY!!!!
I sure hope Wave 5 looks a lot better! I hope to see a Donald vol 2 and Silly Symphonies vol 2, and perhaps even the Assorted treasures set, and a Fantasyland set....
I don't find the lineup of Wave 4 bad at all. The Mickey and Pluto sets are as essential as anything else in the WDT series.
To those who are in particular not looking forward to the True Life Adventures: Do you know anything about these films? We don't know which films are going to be included, all or just some of the shorts or whether any of the features will be there. But I guess this could turn out to some people to be a hidden "pearl" or "diamond", like "On the Front Lines" or "Tomorrowland".
The Mickey Mouse Club set is the one I'm least excited about, but I guess even that's going to be worthwhile. I'm taking for granted that this is the old show from the 50s. Disney's early television success is after all another important part of Disney history.
Lars Vermundsberget wrote:The Mickey Mouse Club set is the one I'm least excited about, but I guess even that's going to be worthwhile. I'm taking for granted that this is the old show from the 50s. Disney's early television success is after all another important part of Disney history.
Mickey Mouse Club was show with children mouseketeers and animated shorts. I tried to find a episode guide but I couldn't. Also each day of the week was a different theme.
Ludwig Von Drake wrote:Mickey Mouse Club was show with children mouseketeers and animated shorts. I tried to find a episode guide but I couldn't. Also each day of the week was a different theme.
Mickey Mouse Club was sort of a 50's version of MTV's TRL, only instead of music videos they had old Disney shorts, etc.
Here's a sample of an episode guide available from billcotter.com. He sells a $10 CD Rom all about Disney TV. This is only a sample page from his website, but it will give you an idea about what was featured on the shows.
So, let's see.... What's left in the Treasures series for us completists?
In terms of animated shorts, we can assume:
Already Released:
MM B&W I
MM Color I
MM Color II
Goofy
Silly Symphonies I
Adventures in Music (on Fantasia discs)
Roger Rabbit (on Who Framed Roger Rabbit discs)
Three Little Pigs (on Silly Symphonies I)
Seemingly Obvious Upcoming Releases:
MM B&W II (wave 4)
DD II, III (and IV, maybe?)
Pluto (wave 4)
Silly Symphonies II
Specials (including maybe the really limited series, like Bonkers, Chip 'n' Dale, Donald and Goofy [or will this be on the Donald discs?], Figaro)
Not-Quite-as-Obvious Possibilities:
Alice Comedies
Oswald the Lucky Rabbit
Early Stuff (Lafflets, Laugh-O-grams, Song-o-Reels)
For live-action shorts:
True-Life Adventures (wave 4, perhaps?)
People & Places
For television and theme park programs, the sky is really the limit. I don't dare predict anything along those lines.
While I don't think the Pluto cartoons as good as some of the others, it's still exciting. The True Life Adventures don't seem like something I'll enjoy watching (not a nature person- far from it), but I really want them for collective purposes. Of course, MMBWII is awesome, and it ties with the Mickey Mouse Club as the most exciting offerings from this wave!
Lon, great list. How cool is it that in a few waves, all of these items (truly treasures) will be available to the public??
Since there are plenty of silly symphonies and jimny Crickett shorts on the MMC they will probabbly be released soon since they had to be refurbished for the MMC DVD.
feedmelinguini wrote:Not-Quite-as-Obvious Possibilities:
Alice Comedies
Oswald the Lucky Rabbit
Early Stuff (Lafflets, Laugh-O-grams, Song-o-Reels)
I posted this in another thread a while ago, but I'll say it again here. Recently I was corresponding with Dave Smith (famed Disney Archivist) regarding his advice on pursuing a Disney career. He was kind enough to give me some pointers, and I also asked him about these shorts, if they will ever be released to the public. Here is his reply:
Keith:
The problem with the silent films is that Disney does not own the rights to them. Many of the Alice Comedies were copyrighted by various entities, eventually ending up with RKO. Universal has the copyright to the Oswalds.
Dave
So while it seems to be a possibility that these shorts will be released, I doubt if Disney would feel there is enough of a demand to do whatever is necessary to secure the rights to these films for public release. (I believe that certain shorts from this period are available through these other companies, on various cartoon collections and such)
