Once Upon a Time in Wonderland

[ajmrowland]

They changed the Knave's introduction. He used to refuse to help the town when Grumpy asked and Cinderella was not there.

Too bad. "I don't help anyone" was a much better performed line than "I'll get right on that". More interesting anyway

[disneyprincess11]

Dang, Cyrus is hot

[RyGuy]

I enjoyed this a lot more than I thought I would. Good show.

Re: Jafar . . . Naveen Andrews and Barbara Hershey were a couple for a LONG time. Maybe we'll see a Jafar/Cora hookup?

I doubt it, but it would be kind of funny.

[ajmrowland]

I enjoyed this a lot more than I thought I would. Good show.

Re: Jafar . . . Naveen Andrews and Barbara Hershey were a couple for a LONG time. Maybe we'll see a Jafar/Cora hookup?

I doubt it, but it would be kind of funny.

I doubt it too. Cora was long out of Wonderland by now, so unless Jafar visits the Enchanted Forest, we won't be seeing it.

But yeah, all the changes from the extended preview took me by surprise. Entire scenes being reshot and relocated, one bit that was moved towards the end, and all the additions.

[disneyboy20022]

I enjoyed this a lot more than I thought I would. Good show.

Re: Jafar . . . Naveen Andrews and Barbara Hershey were a couple for a LONG time. Maybe we'll see a Jafar/Cora hookup?

I doubt it, but it would be kind of funny.

I doubt it too. Cora was long out of Wonderland by now, so unless Jafar visits the Enchanted Forest, we won't be seeing it.

But yeah, all the changes from the extended preview took me by surprise. Entire scenes being reshot and relocated, one bit that was moved towards the end, and all the additions.

Also the red queen has differ attire on in the preview compared to the actual show.

The show as kinda dull for me, until my favorite villain showed up, Jafar.

I wonder what the timeline is for this show and the current events of Once Upon a Time. We see the Knave in Story Brooke, but the London Alice is in doesn't look very modern. I mean if the only thing that can help Alice forget is some painful procedure, clearly some modern big time drugs haven't been invented yet.

[disneyboy20022]

Did any of you guys notice that the voice of The White Rabbit is John Lithgow?

[DC Fan]

So, this series is going to be a one Season only or they have plans to keep it going.

Frankly, I think that´s too much already. Also, it doesn´t have the appeal Once Upon a Time does.

[Disney's Divinity]

Re: Jafar . . . Naveen Andrews and Barbara Hershey were a couple for a LONG time. Maybe we'll see a Jafar/Cora hookup?

I read about that the other day on Naveen Andrews' Wikipedia page. I had no idea before then; what a strange pair.

Dang, Cyrus is hot

Every guy on this Wonderland show is hot. Cyrus, Jafar, and the Knave/whateverhisnameis are all gorgeous.

Did any of you guys notice that the voice of The White Rabbit is John Lithgow?

Yeah, and Keith David did the Cheshire Cat, right? I haven't checked it though.

I agree, the show was a bit dull, but I kind of expected that (which is why the Jafar/Aladdin stuff seems more interesting to me). I do think the show'll get better, since the first episode is really just setting all the pieces in place. Other thoughts: I don't really like the actress they got for the Red Queen. And I was surprised the 3D was as good as it was. Don't get me wrong--it wasn't phenomenal or anything, but for a TV show, it was pretty good.

[ajmrowland]

I doubt it too. Cora was long out of Wonderland by now, so unless Jafar visits the Enchanted Forest, we won't be seeing it.

But yeah, all the changes from the extended preview took me by surprise. Entire scenes being reshot and relocated, one bit that was moved towards the end, and all the additions.

Also the red queen has differ attire on in the preview compared to the actual show.

The show as kinda dull for me, until my favorite villain showed up, Jafar.

I wonder what the timeline is for this show and the current events of Once Upon a Time. We see the Knave in Story Brooke, but the London Alice is in doesn't look very modern. I mean if the only thing that can help Alice forget is some painful procedure, clearly some modern big time drugs haven't been invented yet.

even forgetting London. The preview showed the wraiths destruction. Honestly, my favorite line delivery was taken out when they removed that scene. As for the Painful Procedure, it's acommon device even in some modern day dramas and fiction. Smallville had at least one.

Regarding the CGI, it is very good for network television. Not surprising since most of "Once"s effects are solid and it's impressive that the main show had full CGI characters made for little more than a scene or two, so "Wonderland" should not look worse.

[disneyboy20022]

Apparently Silvermist from the Tinkerbell movies has made her way into Wonderland in the latest episode. I was shocked. Very interesting. Also I wonder how Alice will defeat Jafar and The Red Queen and it's that wondering that has me interested. Also I'm glad they aren't watering down Jafar's evilness in this show.

[Disney's Divinity]

I think they just needed a fairy, so just took somebody from the Tinkerbell series at random; plus, relates to OUAT just featuring Tinker Bell this past week. I liked the episode, actually, but something about this show feels very...empty. Like there isn't much happening. I do love the scenes of Jafar though; the villains' scenes are the highlight of the series so far.

Watching the past episode, I thought that the guy who plays Cyrus (the genie Alice is trying to get to) would have actually been much better as Neal/Baelfire on the regular OUAT than the guy we got for that character. The way he talks/smiles/moves his face is very similar to Rumpel's actor.

[Old Fish Tale]

Regarding the CGI, it is very good for network television. Not surprising since most of "Once"s effects are solid and it's impressive that the main show had full CGI characters made for little more than a scene or two, so "Wonderland" should not look worse.

I'm sorry, but do you really think so? I haven't seen any episode of 'Once Upon a Time in Wonderland' (and I won't), but I did see nine episodes of 'Once Upon a Time' and the special effects were so poor (the acting and the writing too). Almost nothing looked believable.

I'll just leave these here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02FnzgVrQIQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCQKmHiw2Wk

Those are some of the best special effects I've ever seen on a television show.

[ajmrowland]

I think they just needed a fairy, so just took somebody from the Tinkerbell series at random; plus, relates to OUAT just featuring Tinker Bell this past week. I liked the episode, actually, but something about this show feels very...empty. Like there isn't much happening. I do love the scenes of Jafar though; the villains' scenes are the highlight of the series so far.

Watching the past episode, I thought that the guy who plays Cyrus (the genie Alice is trying to get to) would have actually been much better as Neal/Baelfire on the regular OUAT than the guy we got for that character. The way he talks/smiles/moves his face is very similar to Rumpel's actor.

I agree about the series lacking something genuinely.


Didn't notice that.

Regarding the CGI, it is very good for network television. Not surprising since most of "Once"s effects are solid and it's impressive that the main show had full CGI characters made for little more than a scene or two, so "Wonderland" should not look worse.

I'm sorry, but do you really think so? I haven't seen any episode of 'Once Upon a Time in Wonderland' (and I won't), but I did see nine episodes of 'Once Upon a Time' and the special effects were so poor (the acting and the writing too). Almost nothing looked believable.

I'll just leave these here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02FnzgVrQIQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCQKmHiw2Wk

Those are some of the best special effects I've ever seen on a television show.

"For network television" has some weight here. I've seen lots of shows with visual effects and none look that good. But there are times where OUAT, out of such a crop, stands out.

Game of Thrones is a higher budget show made for a premium channel. Not network television. Even the Borgias looks good for VfX and it's not nearly as popular.

[Old Fish Tale]

Yes, 'The Borgias' also had amazing CGI.

[disneyboy20022]

At least they were wise to leave the Hatter/Jefferson out of this as recasting him would only cause more confusion

Again I wonder if anyone can say what the timeline is, as the knave keeps saying things about S'mores and Alice doesn't know what that is. Another thing the Knave brings up is a Care Bear. Could it be the white rabbit can dig through time lines or something. That's my biggest complaint about the show is I don't know what the timeline of it is, For me it is entertaining other than that, but it's no Once Upon A Time.

[ajmrowland]

Yes, 'The Borgias' also had amazing CGI.

Yeah, I undersold it. It's pretty fantastic.

Point is for a series that most likely has less money due to no subscriptions, and twice as many episodes per season, Once aint half bad

At least they were wise to leave the Hatter/Jefferson out of this as recasting him would only cause more confusion

Again I wonder if anyone can say what the timeline is, as the knave keeps saying things about S'mores and Alice doesn't know what that is. Another thing the Knave brings up is a Care Bear. Could it be the white rabbit can dig through time lines or something. That's my biggest complaint about the show is I don't know what the timeline of it is, For me it is entertaining other than that, but it's no Once Upon A Time.

<spoiler>I remember news of him being recasted so it's still up there for me.


It seems increasingly apparent that the Rabbit travels through time in our world and the Knave/Will ended up in the present/Storybrooke that way.</spoiler>

[Old Fish Tale]

I haven't seen many ABC shows, but they made 'Empire' in 2005, which was such a treat! But the estimated budget was $50.000.000, so everything looked amazing! And the acting and writing was great too!

[disneyboy20022]

This recent episode was the best one so far. A lot of interesting twists in it.

Was it just me or did The Caterpillar remind anyone of Jabba the Hutt. Espically the knave being in dept and the catepillar put a bounty on Will. I cracked up when I saw that entire scene

I really how there were flashbacks from Will's time in the enchanted forest with Robin Hood. Also it seems Anastasia from Will's past is actually the red queen

Is this the Red Queen in the show or the Queen of Hearts or did the Red Queen succeed above the Queen of Hearts (after Cora left)? I'm a little confused of who this queen is given some of the spoilers we found out in the latest episode..

[Disney's Divinity]

I'm just guessing here, but as far as I understand: the Red Queen took over after Cora left. From OUAT, we know Cora left Wonderland even before Regina's curse took everyone to Storybrooke, so that's a long time the Red Queen had to take over until this time, which apparently takes place after the curse had been broken in Storybrooke (I'm assuming though; I just don't think the Knave would know who he is when the White Rabbit comes to get him if the Curse hadn't been broken).

I did like the reveal that Anastasia/Red Queen was from Storybrooke and was the woman the Knave broke the heart of. I admit I didn't guess her; when they showed a woman in bed with him, I guessed it was Belle or Aurora, tbh.

[Atlantica]

I'm really struggling to understand the Red Queens voice ..... No idea where she is supposed to be from just somewhere that's posh I suppose?