Lines that make you cringe

[Tristy]

Here are a couple from the Black Cauldron:

Taran: "Look at me Hen! I can do it!" (Weeeeeeeak!)

Orddu: "You evil nasty people!"

Seriously Disney? You couldn't find any other words besides "people" that would make that line less cringeworthy? Why not something like "Vagabonds" or "Ruffians"?

[slave2moonlight]

Here are a couple from the Black Cauldron:

Taran: "Look at me Hen! I can do it!" (Weeeeeeeak!)

Orddu: "You evil nasty people!"

Seriously Disney? You couldn't find any other words besides "people" that would make that line less cringeworthy? Why not something like "Vagabonds" or "Ruffians"?

I'm with you on the first one.

[qindarka]

Chicken Little:

"Darth Vader is Luke's Father?!"

Toy Story 2:

"No, I am your father".

I usually don't mind pop cultural references but Star Wars references, especially this one, are the pinnacle of lazy writing.


WALL-E:

"John, get ready to have some kids!"

[Rose Dome]

I agree with Goliath on that dialogue from The Lion King. It's so boringly written and cliched I groaned just reading it.

Here are my own mentions:

Eilonwy: How dare you take his side!
Taran: Silly girl! Even if she is a Princess.

John Smith: We've trained savages all over the world!
Pocahontas: SAVAGES?
John Smith: Well...not that you're savage.
Pocahontas: No but my people are!

Pocahontas: NO! (gets in the way of her Father's club) This is the path I have chosen...

Megara: You know how it is with men. They think "Yes" means "No" and "Get lost" means "Take me, I'm yours".

[Semaj]

The Jungle Book

"You wouldn't marry a panther, would you?"

Made sense when Bagherra asked Baloo, but not when Baloo asked Mowgli. Maybe it denoted his uneasiness in telling Mowgli he changed his mind about letting him stay in the jungle, but it felt too awkward.

But didn't it help the scene, really? Since Baloo felt worse than awkward about telling Mowgli he had to go back to the Man Village? (Not trying to argue, just asking.)

It does. But those clumsy lines always bugged me for some reason.

One line from the short "Goliath II" was when after saving him from danger so many times, his mother told him to "Stop being a pest!". The pint-sized elephant was at a disadvantage of being so much smaller than the other elephants, and the narrator had already pointed out how much of a headache it was keeping him out of trouble. Nowhere in this equation was Goliath II being a "pest" on purpose, until that hurtful line convinced him to try running away from home.

[Disney Duster]

WALL-E:

"John, get ready to have some kids!"

Ugh I know! Worst romance ever. The human half of Wall-E is ironically the one that sucked.

John Smith: We've trained savages all over the world!
Pocahontas: SAVAGES?
John Smith: Well...not that you're savage.
Pocahontas: No but my people are!

She said, "No, but my people are savage"?!?!

[Super Aurora]

two from Sleeping Beauty:

Merryweather, Flora, Fauna: [noticing Prince Phillip's cap on the floor] Maleficent!
Merryweather: She's got Prince Phillip!
Flora: At the Forbidden Mountain!
Fauna: [nervously] But we can't... we can't go there.
Flora: We can. And we must!

and

Flora: [Fauna cries at Aurora's and Phillip's wedding] Why Fauna, what's the matter, dear?
Fauna: Oh... I just love happy endings.
Flora: Yes. I do t...


with the first one i literally shout at the screen, "NO SHIT, REALLY?!"
the 2nd make me want murder someone or go watch the climax scene in Berserk or Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

I'll have too come back for any others.

[Cheshire_Cat]

The dialogue between Pocahontas and her friend, Nakoma, irks me somewhat, too. Nakoma just seems like something out of Clueless. I half expect her to snap her fingers and go, "Girlfriiiiieeeeend!"

[Linden]

I agree with a lot of these, but the main one that stuck out to me from your suggestions is the "I got news for you, Shadow Man..." one. Ugh, it's SO cringe-worthy.

Here's some more:

Dr. Doppler: "All my life, I've been waiting for an opportunity like this, and here it is screaming, "Go Delbert! Go Delbert!..."

Dr. Doppler: "Woof."

[gunshot]
Tarzan: What was that?
Tantor: It wasn't me, I swear.

Terk: "We're too late! I can't believe it! If only you had asked for directions."

[pap64]

John Smith: We've trained savages all over the world!
Pocahontas: SAVAGES?
John Smith: Well...not that you're savage.
Pocahontas: No but my people are!

She said, "No, but my people are savage"?!?!

While they could have worded it a bit better, she isn't saying that her people are savages, she is basically stating that John Smith thinks that everyone is a savage except for Pocahontas.

It's like if someone said to me "Boy Puertoricans are some of the worst people ever", I argued it, and then the person said "Oh but you are not one of them". Even if the person apologized for indirectly calling me a bad person he still made mention of MY race being bad people, and that's what Pocahontas points out: that even John Smith apologizes to her he still implied that her friends, her family, her CULTURE is bad.

[Dr Frankenollie]

I kinda think that if you take away that stuff, you're going to have another bland prince with no personality. Not saying this type of personality is the only one he has to have, but it IS the personality they gave him and I think it fits the movie well.

I see what you mean...but if the writers couldn't think of good comedy lines for Flynn, they shouldn't have done so at all. I still like Flynn, because his relationship with Rapunzel has depth, and he becomes more of a character than just lame comic relief after the Snuggly Duckling scene.

[qindarka]

I do tend to give the film a bit of a pass for Flynn's awful lines because it does fit his character of being a pathetic figure who thinks he is much cooler than he actually is. Some of his lines in the opening narration are inexcusable, though.

[Tae]

My biggest problem with Flynn's dialogue is I can see it dating the movie pretty quickly, compared to, say, Little Mermaid or Cinderella where the speech isn't so full of phrases/ways of speaking that were current when the movies came out.

[Lazario]

Actually, those Parent Trap cupids were almost on the Sound of Music marionette level of indescribable squirmage

Honestly, I could probably go on forever if we're including live-action too. Though I actually can enjoy Haunted Mansion to some degree, for example, I know there are a lot of cringe worthy moments in that, and any movies I was disappointed in, like Country Bears, I'm scared to rewatch and find all the cringeworthy moments. But, again, in general, I don't have a great memory. I will say that, while the cupids or the opening of Parent Trap in general doesn't bother me, I am sure there were several other moments in that film that make me cringe a little. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's just the one that comes to mind, and that's one some people may not believe. It's that "Let's Get Together" song that is supposed to be so cute, and all the soccer moms find so cute, and all. It's not that it's so horrible, it's just a couple things. One, I just don't find it believable that this performance would take place. I understand its purpose in the girls' plan, but it's a moment that goes beyond my suspension of disbelief, I guess. But, maybe that is less my problem with it than the other, which is just how the parents crack up so much at it. I know people love to see their own kids perform, but maybe that's it, I guess. It's always less enjoyable for the outside viewer. Sometimes my reason for disliking something is not so much that it is unlikable, but rather, I just get frustrated at HOW MUCH other people like it when I don't think it's THAT good. Again, I'm not talking about the movie "The Parent Trap". I LOVE that movie. I'm talking about that one bit. I don't altogether hate it, but when they do the "Say Hey Alligator" line in the song, and that just breaks up the mom and dad, I'm like, "Really? That was as cute and funny as all that?" I just don't get it. Anyways, there, I said it. I kinda like the song and love the movie, so this was hard for me.

Hot damn, GOOD CATCH! I didn't exactly think the same thing but I did notice on the very last rewatch that the Hayley Mills twins (:D) weren't exactly the best singers in the world. However, I'll defend the parents laughing in general. Not because what they were laughing at was cute but because they were more surprised at what the girls were doing. However, you have a very good point. Mostly because my they're laughing because they're surprised argument is meant to reflect just a little bit of how I think Miss Inch would react if she were watching this considering how well the girls are getting along now. Plus, there's the matter of resentment Susan should still be feeling at Sharon over what she talked about on the phone- being upset that Sharon was and still would be able to spend more time with the mother. That this arrangement as a scheme would and will have cheated Susan out of getting to spend more real time alone with the mother. But, as far as the parents know, the girls have been getting along swimmingly ever since they met at camp. Anyway, I still think the parents were more surprised than charmed. So, I somehow believed their spontaneous laughter more than you.

However, you made me really think for a second. And now I've got another one for my list. From The Parent Trap as well. And it's Sharon's rant session with her father over him marrying Vicky. (Might misquote) "OH! And when I think of all the plans we made. All the days and weeks and nothing but working and piano lessons..." (really, I lost her after that - and don't own the DVD yet, so I can't fetch the subtitles) I can't imagine how this kind of behavior went over in the early 1960's but I feel like if I had done something like this (start yelling at the wall like I was talking to a real person) with my family as a tween - which would have taken place over 30 years later, they would have expected it but still treated me like I was nuts. Did parents find this sort of thing more commonplace behavior in the late 50's and early 60's? Or, is it a Hollywood thing? Either way, her accent is breaking. And her voice is becoming extremely grating on the ears. And I'm missing the point of this, humor wise. AND the story is getting more lost than the father claims to be. AND why doesn't Vicki react like she's getting exactly what she wants, now that Sh-usan is flying off the handle- she has a better argument to get him to ship her off somewhere. Instead, she sits her down like she knows exactly what Sh-usan's talking about rather than being even more lost than the father is / more ready for her to say anything at that point. It's a torturously labored sequence that I think could only drive audiences today up the wall. Which might explain why overall, this movie's popularity is slipping with people who don't already have it as part of their nostalgia.

But, I know exactly what you mean about the movie. It's still magical to watch. It's that nostalgia thing. But of course, I've been arguing forever here that I think what Disney used to have (and lost in the 80's) is a real heady quality to their films. I don't know how they did it. But those movies are a real trip and get me high. I can't pinpoint exactly what it is except to say it's magical.

two from Sleeping Beauty:

with the first one i literally shout at the screen, "NO SHIT, REALLY?!"
the 2nd make me want murder someone or go watch the climax scene in Berserk or Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

I'll have too come back for any others.

Get therapy. Seriously. (They are little old ladies. NOT terrorists, politicians, rapists, mass murderers, etc. Your little tyrades against them just make you look freaking weird. Not funny.)

Have you even seen The Texas Chainsaw Massacre? The ending is about the family's insanity. NOT about their brutality. Sure, they drop a hammer over Sally's head a few times. But that's because they put it in Grandpa's hand and Grandpa was a sick and practically dead man decked out like a corpse. He couldn't hold it steady and was so out of it, he had no idea what they were doing. He didn't feel like holding it so, because they were holding her head in place for him to hit her, when he would drop the hammer- it had no place to fall but over her head. The only true brutality which takes place in the finale of that film is when Leatherface accidentally saws into his own leg. Which is naturally ironic since his "power trip" of being able to say who lives or dies by wielding the chainsaw makes him careless and Sally is able to get away.

Of course, none of this applies to the trendy, piece of shit remake. Which I assume you're talking about. Either way, exactly why are you attempting to invoke anything from my area of expertise against any aspect of one of Disney's greatest movies? You know I had to come in and correct you. Now you're going to say I'm starting something when I'm contractually obligated - being the huge horror fan that I am - to set the record straight whenever a film from the 70's-80's heyday is mentioned. That's like mentioning Coupling and not expecting Escapay to show up. Or Dr. Who and not expecting... (who's the Dr. Who expert here? Pap? Frankenollie? You?) You understand my dilemma.

[Super Aurora]

Get therapy. Seriously. (They are little old ladies. NOT terrorists, politicians, rapists, mass murderers, etc. Your little tyrades against them just make you look freaking weird. Not funny.)

Uhh no. I just don't like those lines. Get over it. And No I'm not saying that to be funny or to provoke yo. Just as usual, you and your false assumptions over other people.

Have you even seen The Texas Chainsaw Massacre? The ending is about the family's insanity. NOT about their brutality. Sure, they drop a hammer over Sally's head a few times. But that's because they put it in Grandpa's hand and Grandpa was a sick and practically dead man decked out like a corpse. He couldn't hold it steady and was so out of it, he had no idea what they were doing. He didn't feel like holding it so, because they were holding her head in place for him to hit her, when he would drop the hammer- it had no place to fall but over her head. The only true brutality which takes place in the finale of that film is when Leatherface accidentally saws into his own leg. Which is naturally ironic since his "power trip" of being able to say who lives or dies by wielding the chainsaw makes him careless and Sally is able to get away.
Of course, none of this applies to the trendy, piece of shit remake. Which I assume you're talking about.

Brutality or insanity. Both works. My point was addressing is watching something opposite of SB.

Either way, exactly why are you attempting to invoke anything from my area of expertise against any aspect of one of Disney's greatest movies?

Uhhh no. I'm not attempting provoking you at all. You're making yourself be provoked over nothing. I wasn't even thinking about you when typing my post.

You know I had to come in and correct you.

No I wasn't expecting or hoping you reply at all. I posted lines that made me cringe, not "lines that I list just to piss Lazario off".

Now you're going to say I'm starting something when I'm contractually obligated - being the huge horror fan that I am - to set the record straight whenever a film from the 70's-80's heyday is mentioned. That's like mentioning Coupling and not expecting Escapay to show up. Or Dr. Who and not expecting... (who's the Dr. Who expert here? Pap? Frankenollie? You?) You understand my dilemma.

I don't give a fuck about your Horror film knowledge nor do I care. My post was just to list few possible examples of going watch something opposite of SB.

[Lazario]

I admitted up front that my reply was going to look suspicious but I've more than proved it was entirely academic.

Anyway, I said what I said and you can't undo it or twist it. Try though you may.

[qindarka]

I admitted up front that my reply was going to look suspicious but I've more than proved it was entirely academic.

Anyway, I said what I said and you can't undo it or twist it. Try though you may.

Super Aurora meant nothing against you and you launched an unprovoked attack on him. Now you are trying to weasel your way out of it and paint him as the villain? Enough already.

[Lazario]

You don't know Super Aurora. You're judging what has happened based on one post. Super Aurora and I have been talking on this board for years. So, exactly how are you qualified to make this judgment again?

Don't get involved.

[slave2moonlight]

Honestly, I could probably go on forever if we're including live-action too. Though I actually can enjoy Haunted Mansion to some degree, for example, I know there are a lot of cringe worthy moments in that, and any movies I was disappointed in, like Country Bears, I'm scared to rewatch and find all the cringeworthy moments. But, again, in general, I don't have a great memory. I will say that, while the cupids or the opening of Parent Trap in general doesn't bother me, I am sure there were several other moments in that film that make me cringe a little. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's just the one that comes to mind, and that's one some people may not believe. It's that "Let's Get Together" song that is supposed to be so cute, and all the soccer moms find so cute, and all. It's not that it's so horrible, it's just a couple things. One, I just don't find it believable that this performance would take place. I understand its purpose in the girls' plan, but it's a moment that goes beyond my suspension of disbelief, I guess. But, maybe that is less my problem with it than the other, which is just how the parents crack up so much at it. I know people love to see their own kids perform, but maybe that's it, I guess. It's always less enjoyable for the outside viewer. Sometimes my reason for disliking something is not so much that it is unlikable, but rather, I just get frustrated at HOW MUCH other people like it when I don't think it's THAT good. Again, I'm not talking about the movie "The Parent Trap". I LOVE that movie. I'm talking about that one bit. I don't altogether hate it, but when they do the "Say Hey Alligator" line in the song, and that just breaks up the mom and dad, I'm like, "Really? That was as cute and funny as all that?" I just don't get it. Anyways, there, I said it. I kinda like the song and love the movie, so this was hard for me.

Hot damn, GOOD CATCH! I didn't exactly think the same thing but I did notice on the very last rewatch that the Hayley Mills twins (:D) weren't exactly the best singers in the world. However, I'll defend the parents laughing in general. Not because what they were laughing at was cute but because they were more surprised at what the girls were doing. However, you have a very good point. Mostly because my they're laughing because they're surprised argument is meant to reflect just a little bit of how I think Miss Inch would react if she were watching this considering how well the girls are getting along now. Plus, there's the matter of resentment Susan should still be feeling at Sharon over what she talked about on the phone- being upset that Sharon was and still would be able to spend more time with the mother. That this arrangement as a scheme would and will have cheated Susan out of getting to spend more real time alone with the mother. But, as far as the parents know, the girls have been getting along swimmingly ever since they met at camp. Anyway, I still think the parents were more surprised than charmed. So, I somehow believed their spontaneous laughter more than you.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I can believe the parents laughing. That's kinda what I was saying at one point, that I realize parents do laugh and get extremely amused when their own kids do stuff like that. It's just so much less amusing to me, as someone who is NOT their parents. I see it for the corniness it is and also notice that the singing isn't so good, ha. Being a huge fan of oldschool Disney though, I have a high tolerance, even love for corniness. I guess this bit just crosses the threshold a little too much for me. Just, you know, one of those moments that you get a little embarrassed to be watching, because it's just THAT corny. Still, I can tolerate it. I think overall it's a really good movie, not just for the nostalgic reasons, though of course that is part of it.

If you want to talk about Disney that is bad about being cringe worthy though, I was watching the Best of the Mickey Mouse Club DVD yesterday (partway, but then I took a break), and there's a show I love purely for the nostalgia. Not counting the classic cartoons they show, the original Mickey Mouse Club is 90 percent cringe worthy at least.

But, I know exactly what you mean about the movie. It's still magical to watch. It's that nostalgia thing. But of course, I've been arguing forever here that I think what Disney used to have (and lost in the 80's) is a real heady quality to their films. I don't know how they did it. But those movies are a real trip and get me high. I can't pinpoint exactly what it is except to say it's magical.

I think it's the idealized depiction of the world that the films made during Walt's day present to us. Not just the squeaky clean aspect, but the vibrant colors and the striking personalities. Even though people aren't always happy or pleasant, it looks like such a pleasant world. Everything's kinda glossy and new, even old stuff. And, of course, there's the styles of the 50's and 60's in the films with the contemporary settings. The Gnome Mobile keeps coming to mind for me at the moment. I think a lot of that stuff also reminds one of footage of Disneyland the theme park in the 60s, and Walt himself, and I think those give most fans a really warm feeling. I think those films, especially the ones from the 50s and 60s, create a world that, even with the baddies running around in them, really seem safe and pleasant, and fun, and anything could happen, but nothing really bad (in the end, at least). You could imagine being a kid and reading an Uncle Scrooge comic on your porch, and suddenly discover your brother can turn into a dog. Or you could buy a new car that turns out to be alive and hooks you up with a girl you've had your eye on. Or, of course, your nanny could turn out to be frickin' awesome and magical. And, even if it was NOT a world where people constantly broke into song, you still could do it if you felt like it, and no one thought it was weird, whether you're Sean Connery working in a field, or Pollyanna walking down the sidewalk, or, of course, Maurice Chevalier. But, even when crazy stuff happened, it was usually a magical thing in an otherwise (though unusually pleasant looking) real world with regular people. They even still had some of that magic in the 70's with stuff like Freaky Friday and the Dexter Riley movies (though, I bet I could come up with some cringe worthy moments from Freaky Friday, ha). That pleasantly Disney-esque world wasn't in all their 70's films though. It was starting to fade and make way for the 80's seriousness.

[Lazario]

Would you look at that, everyone? A forum member who actually sticks to the subject of the thread!

(Sorry, s2m. I will get back to you very soon. Just had to throw that in there.) (And sorry to everyone else who is sticking to the topic, I just wanted to illustrate a troubling forum pattern.)