Passion of the Christ

[jambo*rafiki]

Hey, wow . . . that is a fairly good depiction!
I'm not planning on seeing this movie. The only reason I would is becuase I'm a Latin student and it is mostly in Latin. I'm not a huge fan of graphic violence, and I don't want my personal image of Christ suffering for us to turn into the 'Jesus Chainsaw Massacre' as one reviewer called it (informative review, by the way . . . but, sadly, I forget where I read it). I think Mel Gibson has done a great job of stirring up publicity through controversy, though. I went to the movies today and there were people lining up two hours ahead of time to see it (thankfully, there weren't any tiny little kids in line).

[Disneykid]

Yeah, I saw that Discovery Channel special. I think that's probably a fairly accurate rendition of Christ, but we also have to keep in mind that that image is basically a mish mash of various things. If I remember correctly, the special had said they came up with an average of what middle aged Jewish men looked like based on remains and skeletons from that period and used that average for Christ. Either way, it's an interesting rendition. I've also read in some places that Jesus might've been clean shaven due to the fact that the emperor's styles affected the styles of common people. Caesar at that time was clean shaven with short hair, therefore Christ might've been, too, especially since Judas had to kiss Him in order to point Him out because he blended in with everyone else so well. I guess we won't know for sure what He looked like till we all croak.

[Aladdin]

[quote="Disneykid"
The only real criticism I keep hearing about the film is that it provides virtually no backstory as to why these things are happening, meaning if you're not already familiar with the life of Christ, you'll be sitting there wondering why everyone's so hateful towards Him. Perhaps Mel should've extended the film by 20 minutes or so by adding flashbacks of Christ telling the pharisees off publicly, and other events (Christ performing miracles on the sabbath which ticked the high priests off) that'd give the passion better context.[/quote]

In my opinion, people who make this criticism are not well-informed. It's been said a million times .... and I'll say it again for he benefit of the people who have not heard it. The movie is about Jesus' last 12 hours. Essentially, it's supposed to show how Jesus died and suffered for all of us. So of course, it was violent and painful. If people are not prepared for that or desire a movie with more "context", then it doesn't take a genius to know that they shouldn't bother seeing this movie.

With everything that's going on in this crazy world this day, i think this film is a good reminder for everyone (MYSELF included), of badly this Man suffered for all of us so that our sins can be forgiven.

[karlsen]

Does it not depic the fact that he rise again on the third day?

I have never liked movies that does not show this, since that is the main part of the message. If Christ had not risen the third day nothing of his extreme sufering was to any good use.

[Sulley]

The film does make several references to Jesus destroying the church and rebuilding it in three days. The film ends with him walking out of his tomb.

[Prince Adam]

I'm glad the movie include his resurrection:

Yes, the crucifixtion is an important part of the story, but it means nothing without the resurrection.

Had he died without rising what would life be like for us?

[jambo*rafiki]

^^ I don't want to think about that.
In other news, my priest mentioned the movie in his homily today, specifically an interview with the man who plays Jesus (I forget his name).

[STASHONE]

Does it not depic the fact that he rise again on the third day?

Thanks for giving away the ending!

[Disneykid]

According to comingsoon.net, 20th Century Fox has bought the rights to distribute the Passion on video and DVD. I think this is GREAT news because Fox always releases excellent DVD's. Here's hoping Passion gets a fully loaded 2-Disc with commentary, documentaries, galleries, and more. Fox would be stupid not to give it that treatment after all the box office money it's been making.

[2099net]

It's not really Fox's decision - it's Mel Gibson's ICON company decision. Just like Fox can't tell Lucasfilm what to do with Star Wars.

[Disneykid]

Well then let's hope ICON has enough sense to give this movie the royal DVD treatment (and that Fox agrees to that). The Passion's already made 117 million in just 5 days. I can easily see this passing the 200 million mark, though predictions that this will beat Titanic are rather absurd as I don't think any movie will beat Titanic for a long time (if ever).

[Sulley]

The actor who portrayed Jesus Christ beautifully is Jim Caviezel, with many small parts in other films. Starred opposite Dennis Quaid in one of my favorite movies, Frequency. I heard he refused to be paid for doing The Passion of the Christ.

[Maerj]

Thanks a lot for giving away the ending guys! Spoiler warning next time!





















Ugh, yes I AM just kidding...

[Grunches]

I'm glad the movie include his resurrection:

Yes, the crucifixtion is an important part of the story, but it means nothing without the resurrection.

Had he died without rising what would life be like for us?

Exactlay. If Christ had just died and didn't raise from the dead then there wouldn't be anything for us Christians. A lot of people talk about how much violence(spelling) is in it he had to take out some more for it not to be a NC-17 movie at least in America. But really if you think about it, all that violence was not how bad it really was. How bad it was for His hands to get nailed how horrible it was to get beaten. Mel Gibson did a good job at bringing this movie to life. I hope that this movie will bring people closer to Christ or to Christ himself.

[MickeyMouseboy]

Correction to Mr. Indianapolis it's 144,000 these are in a special position that no other have, these individuals are picked by holy spirit. (Re 14:1, 3; 7:4,9) These 144,000 will rule as kings with Jesus Christ (Re 5:9,10; 20:4) This doesn't mean people that are not part of the 144,000 will die or be cut from existance. (Fiery Hell does not exist Re 20:10,14,15 says hell will deliver up other dead, be destroyed. If bad people were to go to hell for eternaty to be tortured the teachings that many churches teach go against on what the scriptures really say meaning that it is a bad teaching in many churches. Hebrew Word "She'ol" which many bibles translate as "Hell" means nothing but grave or ditch) Hell is a place of Inactivity not torment (Ps 6:5; Ec 9:10; Isa 38:18,19) also if hell existance would Job have prayed to go there? (Job 14:13)

The bible speaks of a great crowd that no man was able to number of all nations, tribes, and peoples (Rev 7:9,10,14) These are the ones that have survives the great tribulation and will live on earth under new ruleship and cleansed from past things (Rev 21: 3,4; Ps 72:8 ) Some churches teach that this earth will be destroyed but the Bible says it will be forever (Ec 1:4; Ps 104:5) Many people in Jesus era believed in a resurrection in the future under God's kingdom here on earth (Joh 11:23,24) knowing this, who will be resurrect and who won't? Those ruling with Jesus will be like him (1Co 15:49; Php 3:20,21) Those not ruling will be on Earth (Re20:4b, 5,13; 21:3,4) Sinners against the Spirit will not rise. (Mt 12:31, 32) People that will die in armaggeddon will be the evil doers, corrupt ones, so, the righteous can prosper. (Pr 21:18; Re 11:18 ) Also, many churches teach "Once saved, always saved" this is not scriptural! Partakers of the Holy Spirit can Fall (Heb 6:4, 6; 1 Co 9:27) Salvation is not instantaneous. (Php 2:12; 3:12-14; Mt 10:22) Must work energetically to attain salvation.(Lu 13:23,24; 1Ti 4:10)

I hope everyone read the scriptures for biblical proof of stuff that is explained, if you just read the explanation without the proof you have no right to go off on me but anyways for other question about other matters please feel free to PM me , AIM me or E-mail me! I'll be more than happy to answer any question pertaining this post and other religious stuff you might have questions about. MMB does not claim to be a minister or expects you to believe anything written. But, what is written is based on what the bible says and not on the thoughts and opinions of MMB or any individual other than God's.

[Disneykid]

I just came back from seeing the film and I'm in awe. It was an amazing experience, and that's just what it is - not a movie, an experience. It's so horrifically graphic yet Mel does various things throughout (most notably having flashbacks) that help you get through it. I don't know how I would've reacted if all those distractions weren't there. Despite the bloodiness, there's a certain beauty into the way it's been shot. It all feels very poetic while maintaning a rough grizzliness. Anyone who doesn't feel moved by this film (you don't have to cry or be religious, just moved) might as well be dead. The use of Satan and demons throughout was brilliant, and I absolutely love how subtle the resurrection is. The acting was totally believable and not once did I think "Wow, that's good acting," because it didn't feel like a movie. Heck, there weren't even any trailers or a title logo before the movie started. If there's one flaw in the movie (and honestly, the only one), it's that not enough backstory is provided for the characters. The flashback scene where Mary Magdaline meets Jesus makes no sense because we don't see the whole scene as shown in the Bible and in other Jesus films - we see the tailend of it. Unless you know the story of Christ, the role some people play like John and Mary Magdaline seem superfluous. Besides that, though, the film's practically perfect. This totally deserves to sweep the Oscars next year, but I feel that the Acadamy's too PC to nominate it for anything, let alone win it. We'll see...

[Luke]

I too saw this today, and I too was moved. Seeing Mel's treatment of the material almost makes me wish that he would make a prequel, if that not's the hokiest response to a film like this. I just see how poignant, dramatic, and cinematic this adaptation of the last 12 hours are, and it makes me yearn for likewise powerful treatment of the 'backstory' that Disneykid notes is missing. Of course, we may know the backstory, but the great majority of us know <i>this</i> story too, and I think it's an incredible emotionally moving experience on film.

Limited in scope? Yes. Hard to watch? At times, undoubtedly. But still a rewarding film experience that I'm glad crowds are rushing to see to the degree they might see a mindless summer blockbuster.

[MickeyMousePal]

I can't wait to get Passion of Jesus Christ.
I have not seen it but plan to when it comes out on DVD.
Passion made $125 million in 5 days beating Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King surpassing it by $1 million.

[Loomis]

Just to lighten up the discussion, I thought y'all would find this amusing:

http://www.theonion.com/news/

[jambo*rafiki]

In order to bring these and other truths to light, Christ teamed up with screenwriter Ron Bass, who wrote both Snow Falling On Cedars and My Best Friend's Wedding. The two have been co-writing a high-concept script, temporarily called Untitled Jesus Project.

"We're still hammering out the treatment, but I'm really excited about where it's headed," Christ said. "It really beefs up My relationship with John the Baptist, something all of the other movies missed. They always put in the beheading, but they leave out the quiet moments when John and I would hang out, eat locusts and honey, and talk about the redemption of Man. I think our friendship will really resonate with a lot of viewers."