Was "classic" Disney homophobic?

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The_Iceflash wrote:
Lazario wrote: But racism isn't just an implying of hatred toward black people. It's the reinforcement of simplistic stereotypes that black people are lazy and/or stupid.
Racism
–noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Flashy, the black characters in the movie are seen bonding with a white child. Therefore, they are shown as having like-qualities to a child and reduced to being only as good as he is. While he's a child.

I'll highlight it again:
Racism
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a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
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I don't understand how Uncle Remus bonding with a child reduces him as a character or portrays blacks as stupid and lazy, especially since he seems to be the smartest character in the film, the only adult in the film that gives a damn about what Johnny's going through and actually makes the effort to give him a little guidance.
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Not to mention all the white adults end up coming to him for advice. If anything, that's racism in an entirely different view. Except it's not, because of Johnny and his friends.
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Lazario is right about Remus and his connection to Johnny and the other kids. Is Lazario also a film scholar, or has he studied film? I would like to know.
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I agree with enigmawing and ajmrowland on this.
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Goliath wrote:Well, didn't Donald, Joe Carioca and Donald Duck come out in The Three Caballeros? :wink:

Oh, and there is no such thing as a "gay lifestyle".
I hate how these days everything was really gay all along. Guess it goes to show you you can see what ever you want in anything if it fits your "agenda."

Kirk's firing had more to do with his criminal behavior and nothing to do with his sexual lifestyle. To say other wise is silly.
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enigmawing wrote:I don't understand how Uncle Remus bonding with a child reduces him as a character or portrays blacks as stupid and lazy, especially since he seems to be the smartest character in the film, the only adult in the film that gives a damn about what Johnny's going through and actually makes the effort to give him a little guidance.
Which is why this films needs to be released on DVD! The notion that it is racist is absurd! If anything, it portrays whites as stupid, not blacks.
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You know I for one would be very interested in reading a biography of Tommy Kirk. Tab Hunter and Farley Granger have both written biographies recently that gave a lot of insight of what it was like to be a closeted star in the studio system. Kirk's story would be fascinating. I happen to be a small press publisher (I won't violate forum rules by plugging my company) but it anybody knows of a way to contact Tommy Kirk or if someone who knows him happens to read this comment, send me a private message.
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Thank you Poppins!!!

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Thank you Poppins
for being the ONLY! person who replied to my original post with some idea what I was asking.
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