I've Just Bought My Very First Disney DVD!!

[DiscoDan]

Bambi is AMAZING! although I read the book recently that it's based on - and it's even better! I highly recommend it!

http://www.amazon.com/Bambi-Life-Woods- ... ap_title_0

[PeterPanfan]

Eh, the Peter Pan: PE isn't that much...

Perhaps I'm being too hard on it though since it's my favorite Disney movie.

[BackgroundActorman1976]

I don't have Blu-Ray. A player or an HD-tv. That would be very expensive and after talking to / hearing from enough people with Blu-Ray, I've decided- what's the point? Too many people are not happy with the results. Only new movies look great in Blu-Ray anyway. 70's and 80's movies are littered with grain and look terrible, I'm told. And those are the movies I'd be itching to buy first on Blu-Ray.
The thinking with my first choices for Disney DVD's was to buy the ones that I thought would be most out of print and most expensive. After doing some searching on eBay... it turns out those were 2 of the cheapest animated classics. I tried looking for U.S. sellers with brand new copies of Lady and the Tramp, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, and The Little Mermaid and they all want upwards of $19-20. If I wanted to pay those kinds of prices... as Goliath said, I would have bought them when they came out. At Wal-Mart.

I could have saved my money, true. And bought all the Blu player and TV set-up... But by then, what's the first Disney animated classic on Blu-Ray? Pinocchio? Sleeping Beauty? By then, they would be out-of-print probably. I mean, I'm doing better financially. But all that means is that, where as before I couldn't count on anything- I could barely pay my bills, I can now count on at least one brand new DVD every 2 weeks. That's still pathetic by most standards. Maybe Blu will improve in the estimation of most of the people I listen to. But until then, I guess I'm doing just what I did with VHS all over again with standard-DVD. Which by the way, has always been good enough for me in the past. On my normal-sized TV, even some terrible transfers look pretty good. I like things I can rely on.




Yet More Breaking News... Just ordered my 3rd. This one's a bit iffy, because... I ordered it used. But I'm guaranteed that this eBay seller has an absolutely impeccable reptuation. They've sold to well over 1,000 buyers, has that ever-important 100% feedback rating, has the "Top Rated Seller" seal on their information page and on their item pages, has tons of award-type qualifications everywhere. They swear everything's in very good condition. Which of course isn't Like New... but I'm hoping it really is Like New. But I was bound to find myself having to settle for something like this sooner or later. And it was the cheapest available copy from a reliable U.S. seller.

#3 is ... :

I appreciated your reasons for not going HD including the cost of a new tv and a bluray player but i have to say you totally lost me once you got to the highlighted part above.
You do realize that grain is part of film right, and that directors take that in consideration when decideing what type of film stock they want to shoot on, if you take away the grain you take away from the directors orginal vision of how the film should look.

And the comment about only new films look great on blu, sorry but it couldnt be more off base, take a look at Sleeping beauty, take a look at Pinnochio, take a look at the mexican import of Dumbo, take a look at wizard of Oz, cassablanca, north by northwest, towering inferno,Superman the movie, i could keep going these movies look absolutely stunning in high defintion.

look i totally understand the cost factor with buying a new tv and new player, and if you only have a standard def tv then yeah there is no need to rush out and by a bluray player. But to sit there and say that only new movies look good on bluray is just not a true fact.
if you want a idea on how great a older movie looks on bluray, go over to youtube and search for Dumbo 1080p its looks absolutely stunning.

actually here i will link you to it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsw_MCHlKgg


as for the issue of buying individual movies on bluray, you do realize disneys whole purpose for doing the combo releases is so that consumers who havent upgradded to hd yet, can buy the dvd now and know that one day if/when they do upgrade to a bluray player they dont have to rebuy the movie again. this is why disney offers the 10.00 off coupons for the combos.

snow white bluray dvd combo for the first 2 or 3 weeks of its release could be had for between 9.99 and 14.99
Gforce could be had for between 5.99 and 14.99
UP could be had for 9.99 to 14.99
Tinkerbell could be had for 9.99 to 14.99
Monsters inc could be had for 9.99 to 14.99
Ponyo could be had 14.99
Old Dogs for 14.99
next week you will be able to get Princess and the frog for 12.99 to 16.99 (and if some stores go ahead and accept the coupon for the single disc as low as 9.99 then)

and thats for the dvd+bluray+digital copy

so while i understand you not wanting to rush out and buy a player or hd tv cause of the cost. surely you cant deny the fact that disney has been aggresively making there bluray titles availble the first two weeks at a very affordable cost.

seriously if your going to buy PATF why pay 16.99 for a single disc dvd when with the disney coupon for 10.00 you can get the dvd+BLURAY+DIGITALCOPY for 12.99 to16.99

really right now the only element that still costs an arm and a leg is the HDTV.

again i respect your reasons about the cost of the tv and player but i just had to say something about the highlighted sections above.

[Lazario]

Just so you know, I usually go over all my longer-winded posts a lot carefully than I did this one. I'm a bit rushed today. So, it's bound to sound a little hasty:

You do realize that grain is part of film right, and that directors take that in consideration when decideing what type of film stock they want to shoot on, if you take away the grain you take away from the directors orginal vision of how the film should look.

To answer the bold part- yes. I do. And I've heard the raves of it, most of them sounding pretty damn pretentious if I may say so. But just because a lot of film buffs like excessive grain - perhaps you could tell me why you could enjoy a film where you can't see what's going on because there's too much grain - does not mean it always looks good. I agree about a director's right to this, that, and the other thing. But within reason. The way you're making it sound, we should leave all grain in. I'm sure that's not probably what you meant. Sometimes, I'll have you know it covers things up so that you can't see beyond it. How do we know all directors mean for their movies to look bad? Or that they all had a choice to select a film stock that would hurt the images they shot? I don't give a crap about it if I'm watching Death Wish or some kung fu movie. Then you would certainly have a point. But I don't watch those kinds of movies. What is honestly the point of Blu-Ray if it doesn't make movies like perfect, I ask you? People are basically pushing for Blu-Ray to replace regular DVD. And I'm even PICKIER than the people I've been listening to.

Blu-Ray to me is like an investment. And damn it, I want every dollar I spend on that kind of thing and every movie for it to be amazing. Within reason, of course. I expect The Texas Chainsaw Massacre to look like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. But damn it, I want Ghostbusters to look as good if not better than... name a new movie, any one. And stick it in the fire, it doesn't deserve Blu-Ray! Ghostbusters is one of my favorite childhood films and though it takes place in New York City, it ain't Maniac!! I don't care if it's possible or not to make movies look grainless and perfect. I never said I thought it was. But if it's not, Blu Ray is a waste of my time. Especially since it's still being abused on dozens of completely disposable, worthless new-millennium crap titles.

if you want a idea on how great a older movie looks on bluray, go over to youtube and search for Dumbo 1080p its looks absolutely stunning.

actually here i will link you to it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsw_MCHlKgg

Tried it, but the first thing that happens in the movie naturally are a series of dissolves with the opening credits. And in 1080p, they aren't smooth. They're too jerky. It got better when the storks started flying around. But I wasn't that impressed. 480p looked just as good, except during the "RAIN!" bit.

Eh, the Peter Pan: PE isn't that much...

Perhaps I'm being too hard on it though since it's my favorite Disney movie.

Nah, you're entitled. I know about this- I read the UD review of it the week it came out.

[sunhuntin]

lazario... congrats on your new dvds . i was the same as you when dvd was first released... my vhs was working fine and i couldnt afford it. i then made the leap when they stopped making vhs for new release movies. ive been kicking myself ever since for not getting into the game sooner. the prices for some of the original dvd releases is crazy. currently beauty and the beast is selling for $191NZD! when it retailed for some $30-$40nzd, and is being released again later this year. the lion king is the same.

[Goliath]

Why only now? If you're a Disney fan, why didn't you buy them when they came out?

Hmmm...

Oh, I doubt it. Real life can't be like that much like The Great Pumpkin.

...Spoke too soon?

Huh? When did I flame anyone?

I was just being curious.

[BackgroundActorman1976]

Just so you know, I usually go over all my longer-winded posts a lot carefully than I did this one. I'm a bit rushed today. So, it's bound to sound a little hasty:

You do realize that grain is part of film right, and that directors take that in consideration when decideing what type of film stock they want to shoot on, if you take away the grain you take away from the directors orginal vision of how the film should look.

To answer the bold part- yes. I do. And I've heard the raves of it, most of them sounding pretty damn pretentious if I may say so. But just because a lot of film buffs like excessive grain - perhaps you could tell me why you could enjoy a film where you can't see what's going on because there's too much grain - does not mean it always looks good. I agree about a director's right to this, that, and the other thing. But within reason. The way you're making it sound, we should leave all grain in. I'm sure that's not probably what you meant. Sometimes, I'll have you know it covers things up so that you can't see beyond it. How do we know all directors mean for their movies to look bad? Or that they all had a choice to select a film stock that would hurt the images they shot? I don't give a crap about it if I'm watching Death Wish or some kung fu movie. Then you would certainly have a point. But I don't watch those kinds of movies. What is honestly the point of Blu-Ray if it doesn't make movies like perfect, I ask you? People are basically pushing for Blu-Ray to replace regular DVD. And I'm even PICKIER than the people I've been listening to.

Blu-Ray to me is like an investment. And damn it, I want every dollar I spend on that kind of thing and every movie for it to be amazing. Within reason, of course. I expect The Texas Chainsaw Massacre to look like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. But damn it, I want Ghostbusters to look as good if not better than... name a new movie, any one. And stick it in the fire, it doesn't deserve Blu-Ray! Ghostbusters is one of my favorite childhood films and though it takes place in New York City, it ain't Maniac!! I don't care if it's possible or not to make movies look grainless and perfect. I never said I thought it was. But if it's not, Blu Ray is a waste of my time. Especially since it's still being abused on dozens of completely disposable, worthless new-millennium crap titles.

if you want a idea on how great a older movie looks on bluray, go over to youtube and search for Dumbo 1080p its looks absolutely stunning.

actually here i will link you to it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsw_MCHlKgg

Tried it, but the first thing that happens in the movie naturally are a series of dissolves with the opening credits. And in 1080p, they aren't smooth. They're too jerky. It got better when the storks started flying around. But I wasn't that impressed. 480p looked just as good, except during the "RAIN!" bit.

Eh, the Peter Pan: PE isn't that much...

Perhaps I'm being too hard on it though since it's my favorite Disney movie.

Nah, you're entitled. I know about this- I read the UD review of it the week it came out.

All iam going to say is this, your entitled to your opinon, but i disagree with you. again as i mentioned directors make a artistic choice in using the filmstocks that they choose to use, they take into consideration the types and amount of grain that will be on screen durring different scenes based on factors such as lighting,special effects and various other elements. to take and remove that grain from film stock not only removes the grain it also removes the detail and textures in each frame of film and it makes human actors look fake and waxy.

Its funny you mention ghostbusters, I was actually at the 25th anniversry repremiere of ghostbusters this past june and They actually used the bluray for the screening. Director Ivan riteman was in the audience(as was his son Jason) and he said the thought that ghostbusters looked the best it has looked since it first premiered back in 1984. He personally supervised the high defintion transfer for the bluray, and said he was very happy with the end results.


now a question when you watched the 1080p transfer on youtube, how fast is your conection and i didnt even think to ask when i posted the lik what is resoultion of your monitor. If you have a slow internet connection then yeah its not going to be as good.

like i said its your choice and obviously you have your mind set in stone, but really take into consideration the directors vision and stylistic choices before saying film grain is bad.

in anycase as i said the reasons you gave about cost of new tv and player that are understandable i just didnt agree with your take on how older films dont meet your idea of perfection.

[BackgroundActorman1976]

Just so you know, I usually go over all my longer-winded posts a lot carefully than I did this one. I'm a bit rushed today. So, it's bound to sound a little hasty:

You do realize that grain is part of film right, and that directors take that in consideration when decideing what type of film stock they want to shoot on, if you take away the grain you take away from the directors orginal vision of how the film should look.

To answer the bold part- yes. I do. And I've heard the raves of it, most of them sounding pretty damn pretentious if I may say so. But just because a lot of film buffs like excessive grain - perhaps you could tell me why you could enjoy a film where you can't see what's going on because there's too much grain - does not mean it always looks good. I agree about a director's right to this, that, and the other thing. But within reason. The way you're making it sound, we should leave all grain in. I'm sure that's not probably what you meant. Sometimes, I'll have you know it covers things up so that you can't see beyond it. How do we know all directors mean for their movies to look bad? Or that they all had a choice to select a film stock that would hurt the images they shot? I don't give a crap about it if I'm watching Death Wish or some kung fu movie. Then you would certainly have a point. But I don't watch those kinds of movies. What is honestly the point of Blu-Ray if it doesn't make movies like perfect, I ask you? People are basically pushing for Blu-Ray to replace regular DVD. And I'm even PICKIER than the people I've been listening to.

Blu-Ray to me is like an investment. And damn it, I want every dollar I spend on that kind of thing and every movie for it to be amazing. Within reason, of course. I expect The Texas Chainsaw Massacre to look like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. But damn it, I want Ghostbusters to look as good if not better than... name a new movie, any one. And stick it in the fire, it doesn't deserve Blu-Ray! Ghostbusters is one of my favorite childhood films and though it takes place in New York City, it ain't Maniac!! I don't care if it's possible or not to make movies look grainless and perfect. I never said I thought it was. But if it's not, Blu Ray is a waste of my time. Especially since it's still being abused on dozens of completely disposable, worthless new-millennium crap titles.

if you want a idea on how great a older movie looks on bluray, go over to youtube and search for Dumbo 1080p its looks absolutely stunning.

actually here i will link you to it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsw_MCHlKgg

Tried it, but the first thing that happens in the movie naturally are a series of dissolves with the opening credits. And in 1080p, they aren't smooth. They're too jerky. It got better when the storks started flying around. But I wasn't that impressed. 480p looked just as good, except during the "RAIN!" bit.

Eh, the Peter Pan: PE isn't that much...

Perhaps I'm being too hard on it though since it's my favorite Disney movie.

Nah, you're entitled. I know about this- I read the UD review of it the week it came out.

All iam going to say is this, your entitled to your opinon, but i disagree with you. again as i mentioned directors make a artistic choice in using the filmstocks that they choose to use, they take into consideration the types and amount of grain that will be on screen durring different scenes based on factors such as lighting,special effects and various other elements. to take and remove that grain from film stock not only removes the grain it also removes the detail and textures in each frame of film and it makes human actors look fake and waxy.

Its funny you mention ghostbusters, I was actually at the 25th anniversry repremiere of ghostbusters this past june and They actually used the bluray for the screening. Director Ivan riteman was in the audience(as was his son Jason) and he said the thought that ghostbusters looked the best it has looked since it first premiered back in 1984. He personally supervised the high defintion transfer for the bluray, and said he was very happy with the end results.


now a question when you watched the 1080p transfer on youtube, how fast is your conection and i didnt even think to ask when i posted the lik what is resoultion of your monitor. If you have a slow internet connection then yeah its not going to be as good.

like i said its your choice and obviously you have your mind set in stone, but really take into consideration the directors vision and stylistic choices before saying film grain is bad.

in anycase as i said the reasons you gave about cost of new tv and player that are understandable i just didnt agree with your take on how older films dont meet your idea of perfection.

[Lazario]

lazario... congrats on your new dvds . i was the same as you when dvd was first released... my vhs was working fine and i couldnt afford it. i then made the leap when they stopped making vhs for new release movies. ive been kicking myself ever since for not getting into the game sooner. the prices for some of the original dvd releases is crazy. currently beauty and the beast is selling for $191NZD! when it retailed for some $30-$40nzd, and is being released again later this year. the lion king is the same.

I'll bet I could find a better deal on eBay than that. Or... well, at least what looks a lot like a better deal. I think I could have found a seller there with any Platinum or Special Edition DVD under $30, and probably brand new. You just have to check their feedback to make sure they've sold DVD's before and have a damn good rating. I don't like to mess with anything under 100%.

And, thanks.

Hmmm... ...Spoke too soon?

Huh? When did I flame anyone?

I was just being curious.

No I didn't say you did. When I was referring to The Great Pumpkin, I didn't mean the scene where everyone was calling Linus a "stupid blockhead." I meant the scene where he brought up the questioning of one person's sincerity toward something they care about. And you especially'll notice the use of the question mark... Very literally, I was suggesting it was possible, not definite, that you were questioning my sincerity to the films.

My issue is not with the films. I want to own them all. A lot more now, since I'm finding a reliable VHS player is damn damn damn hard to come by these days. Harder in fact that a good deal for Disney's out of print DVD's on eBay. My issue was with buying brand new Disney DVD's right when they come out and I've gotten over that a bit. I don't know how much of the money I pay to an eBayer goes to the corporate jackasses over there, but I'll bet it's less than what would have gone to them had I bought the discs at Wal-Mart. I feel good about this decision now - and hey, I might save a few bucks. Though saying that, I have no idea what it's like to be part of their sort of through-the-mail club(s). Maybe that's where people really save money.

now a question when you watched the 1080p transfer on youtube, how fast is your connection and i didnt even think to ask when i posted the link what is resoultion of your monitor. If you have a slow internet connection then yeah its not going to be as good.

Connection is fast enough, I promise you the monitor is the problem. I imagine the resolution is not very high. Web pages almost always load fast, 10-minute YouTube videos usually take 5 minutes max to completely load through (the red-to-gray bar).

like i said its your choice and obviously you have your mind set in stone, but really take into consideration the directors vision and stylistic choices before saying film grain is bad.

I didn't mean to say that - my problem is: too much grain. Why would I suggest grain is a problem if I can see what's going on in the scene perfectly well with it on the screen? I don't mind grain in the proper proportions. But too much is too much.

[Scarred4life]

I started a movie collection probably a week or two ago. Right know I only have three Disney but they all are Pixar. I only have like seven overall. Anyway congratulations

Same here. I have about 7 Disney DVD's, and about 10 on VCR. I'm slowly collecting more though.

[sunhuntin]

I'll bet I could find a better deal on eBay than that. Or... well, at least what looks a lot like a better deal. I think I could have found a seller there with any Platinum or Special Edition DVD under $30, and probably brand new. You just have to check their feedback to make sure they've sold DVD's before and have a damn good rating. I don't like to mess with anything under 100%.

And, thanks.

no worries. its not cheap keeping up with technology. i got a hdtv last year, and already its out of date with the advent of 3dtv.

[JustOneBite87]

Lazario, if you EVER saw Gone With the Wind on Blu-Ray you would immediately retract any statements/assumptions about older films not looking good on Blu-Ray. The detail is something that has to be seen to be believed. And if something looks "jerky" on youtube it's because it uploaded that way, not because it looks that way on the Dumbo Blu-ray, which I have and looks stunning. If you don't have the resources or desire to invest in a blu-ray player right now, ok. But don't make broad statements about older films looking poor when you haven't seen them for yourself.

[Kyle]

Grain doesnt cover things up, grain = video information. If the original master has grain in it, then it should be left in. because no matter what, removing grain means removing detail, not revealing more like your implying.

Now, if the grain was introduced through some secondary process where it was unintentional, then yes, grain is bad.


Edit: also your monitor isn't the issue I assure you, its your computer, your processor isn't fast enough, its not equipped to handle high def flash videos. My 8 year old computer I have in my family room sucks, it was only when I got my laptop for Christmas that I could view HD youtube smoothly. even hooked up to that old PC's monitor it plays great.

[Lazario]

From a private message - that I can't respond to, nor can I tell the person I can't respond to them since Luke deletes and closes those messages on the Feedback section (his decision, I know but... how else can I tell them I'm not ignoring them - I don't want to be rude)

What ebay sellers did you use?

When getting the Disney dvds? I've been looking to get some of the ones I'm missing but I'm unsure of who to trust on there. Thanks!

I got my Bambi DVD on Saturday, brand new and everything works great. So I know I can trust that person.

http://myworld.ebay.com/computercbob - from there, I don't know where you can find his/her items to sell, but that's there page.



I ordered Cinderella from : http://myworld.ebay.com/chendongq2007

However... I've just taken a look at their Feedback page and things have changed since I made my order. At least 3 people have complained. One person said it took too long to arrive and their DVD was covered with scratches. Another said the movie was not the Disney version - which is ALARMING, but thankfully for me it was for The Lion King / Beauty and the Beast. But that person also said they were given a refund and quickly. So, that's a little better. All the complaints right now seem to be for The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast. Based on this... I wouldn't recommend using this person just yet.



Since the Peter Pan I ordered was used, the seller is not likely to have any more copies. But their page - http://myworld.ebay.com/akiranati

They still have an impeccable feedback rating.



My real advice is to look carefully and closely at both the feedback rating, the comments, and what they're selling. If they haven't sold any or many DVD's, it's a risk.

[Disney Lover]

Thank you very much for answering me. I'll keep an eye out to see if either of them are selling anything good.

[Lazario]

You're very welcome.

Just got the used Peter Pan in the mail. The 1st disc looks fabulous, except for a few very very light sorta smudges. Almost clean as a whistle though. Disc 2 looks brand new. Well worth the $15.00.


2 down, 30 to go.

[BK]

You're very welcome.

Just got the used Peter Pan in the mail. The 1st disc looks fabulous, except for a few very very light sorta smudges. Almost clean as a whistle though. Disc 2 looks brand new. Well worth the $15.00.


2 down, 30 to go.

32? Which 17 aren't you counting?

[Lazario]

2 down, 30 to go.

32? Which 17 aren't you counting?

Everything after Pocahontas and everything under 60 minutes long.

And I'm not limiting myself to just animated films. Eventually, I'll get some of the live action.

[Goliath]

Lazario, I guarantee you: you would *love* Lilo & Stitch!

[sunhuntin]

Lazario, I guarantee you: you would *love* Lilo & Stitch!

i love that movie. would be kool if they would release the tv series on dvd as well... we didnt get all of them here. i had to look on youtube to find out who angel was.