Aladdin Discussion

[Mooky]

It's kind of sad to imagine it being kicked out of Platinum Collection

Yes, it damn well is. I just hope the blu-ray release of Aladdin makes MAJOR sales so they put it back into the platinum line. It's a shame too because of all the platinums, I always say that Aladdin had the best special features.

Yes, absolutely! It has the best selection of bonus features I've ever seen on a Platinum Edition DVD (even though I can only compare it to 2-disc versions of "The Lion King", "Bambi", "Peter Pan" and "101 Dalmatians", I don't have others).

As for that plot hole: maybe Jasmine assumed Aladdin told Jafar he was a prince, thus escaping the execution.

[Kyle]

Not gonna fly, she was told that "his execution had already been carried out".

[xxhplinkxx]

Not gonna fly, she was told that "his execution had already been carried out".

Perhaps Jasmine thought Jafar was covering for "The Prince" once he let him go. It's a stretch, I know, but hey....


But anyway, who cares what Jasmine thought of or didn't think of! The girl was happy to see her man and just trying to get her groove on, get off her back!

[nomad2010]

although this is my favorite animated disney film i always have trouble getting past the fact the whole time aladdin could have just given the lamp to jasmine and had her with for the law to be changed and then given it back to him to free the genie. jasmine could have done anything with those three wishes.. so to me that is the biggest plot hole. i can look past the prince ali/aladdin/death sentence thing

[xxhplinkxx]

although this is my favorite animated disney film i always have trouble getting past the fact the whole time aladdin could have just given the lamp to jasmine and had her with for the law to be changed and then given it back to him to free the genie. jasmine could have done anything with those three wishes.. so to me that is the biggest plot hole. i can look past the prince ali/aladdin/death sentence thing

THANK YOU!

I have ALWAYS said the exact same thing! Al could have just given the lamp to Jasmine, she could have wished for him to be a prince again, still have two wishes left, then give the lamp back to Al and use the last wish to set the Genie free.

[Chernabog_Rocks]

Maybe it's not too late to give her the lamp so she can wish for a better Family Channel

[drfsupercenter]

Yes, it damn well is. I just hope the blu-ray release of Aladdin makes MAJOR sales so they put it back into the platinum line. It's a shame too because of all the platinums, I always say that Aladdin had the best special features.

Explain what you guys mean by "being kicked out of the Platinum line"? It's DVD release was on shelves for the longest of any DAC (if I'm correct in my thinking), and you can't just go erase history and retract all of those. They might have taken it out of the RE-RELEASE line, but since it was already released it will forever be a part of the (original) Platinum Edition line.

As far as that "plot hole" goes... that's not nearly as bad as Beauty and the Beast! Right at the beginning of the movie, the narrator says he has to be loved before his 21st birthday, but in Be Our Guest they say it's been "10 years since [they've] had anybody [there]". No way the thing happened when he was 11. I'm sure you all know about it by now, but Aladdin's little story hole seems minor compared to that!

[Mooky]

Explain what you guys mean by "being kicked out of the Platinum line"? It's DVD release was on shelves for the longest of any DAC (if I'm correct in my thinking), and you can't just go erase history and retract all of those. They might have taken it out of the RE-RELEASE line, but since it was already released it will forever be a part of the (original) Platinum Edition line.

You're right, but apparently some official Disney websites do try to erase history and have removed "Aladdin" from the line-up. They have this timeline of Platinums where there's just blank space next to 2004. There's a picture of it somewhere on UD.

As far as that "plot hole" goes... that's not nearly as bad as Beauty and the Beast! Right at the beginning of the movie, the narrator says he has to be loved before his 21st birthday, but in Be Our Guest they say it's been "10 years since [they've] had anybody [there]". No way the thing happened when he was 11. I'm sure you all know about it by now, but Aladdin's little story hole seems minor compared to that!

Here's how I tried to explain that goof. I wrote this on BatB's IMDb board:

21 years before the film's beginning
- the prince is, let's say, 18 years old or even older
- the Enchantress casts the spell on the prince to last for 21 years ("The rose she had offered was truly an enchanted rose, which would bloom until his 21st year")
- nobody in the castle ages under the effect of the spell (which would explain Chip's age - he couldn't have been born as a cup, nor does he seem to be 10, more like 6 or 7)
- during first 11 years there are 1 or 2 visitors
- castle and its inhabitants fall into oblivion
- there are no visitors for 10 years

Film begins
- Belle comes to the castle
- in "Be Our Guest" Lumiere says they hadn't had visitors for ten years and that the rose had begun to wilt (because the end of those 21 years is near)
- Belle and the Beast fall in love and break the spell
- the Prince and everybody else is returned to their previous state and age

Sorry for turning this into BatB discussion .

[Disney's Divinity]

Well, I think the movie did kind of take note of Jasmine's possible use of the lamp, in the climactic scene where she tries to take it while Aladdin is fighting Jafar. Still, I agree that it was kind of silly for her or the Sultan not to use it. But the main point of the movie, for Aladdin, was not live lies and pretend to be something your not. Or maybe they just felt that, considering Genie was basically a slave, they would be wrong for taking advantage of him unless it was necessary.

[myr_heille]

Or maybe they just felt that, considering Genie was basically a slave, they would be wrong for taking advantage of him unless it was necessary.

That's exactly what I felt. Genie wanted to be free because he didn't want to make wishes come true anymore, so giving Jasmine the lamp would have been cheating on the Genie.

[drfsupercenter]

21 years before the film's beginning
- the prince is, let's say, 18 years old or even older
- the Enchantress casts the spell on the prince to last for 21 years ("The rose she had offered was truly an enchanted rose, which would bloom until his 21st year")
- nobody in the castle ages under the effect of the spell (which would explain Chip's age - he couldn't have been born as a cup, nor does he seem to be 10, more like 6 or 7)
- during first 11 years there are 1 or 2 visitors
- castle and its inhabitants fall into oblivion
- there are no visitors for 10 years

Film begins
- Belle comes to the castle
- in "Be Our Guest" Lumiere says they hadn't had visitors for ten years and that the rose had begun to wilt (because the end of those 21 years is near)
- Belle and the Beast fall in love and break the spell
- the Prince and everybody else is returned to their previous state and age

Makes sense, but I don't think Disney put that much thought into it. From what I hear, the songwriters didn't really check with the script writers... they just went about writing all the music. And then the editor must have pieced the film together going "Oh crap, listen to this" and figured most people wouldn't notice.

I somehow think "his 21st year" meant him turning 21...

[Mooky]

I somehow think "his 21st year" meant him turning 21...

Yeah, it probably did mean that. It's just that 21 is such a strange number because it's often associated with someone's age. I heard that the Broadway version corrects this by making the rose bloom "for many years".

Anyway, back on topic: in the Art Gallery section of the DVD, there's concept art of Iago, but he's named Sinbad. Why do you think they changed it?

[Disney's Divinity]

Maybe the character just evolved into a different personality (similar to how Sebastian went from a British butler type to a Caribbean reggae-singing type). We already know the film went under a major evolution.

[schoollover]

Aladdin is one of my favorite disney films. I loved the 2004 dvd , but I really wish they would have given jasmine her own solo song though. i also don't know why so many people find this better than the lion king. I love them both but aladdin is simply my Favorite. What i meant to say was that I don't know why so many people find The lion king better than aladdin.

[xxhplinkxx]

I really wish they would have given jasmine her own solo song though

She does now! See my post in the Will Aladdin be the next Disney on Broadway? thread.

[ajmrowland]

Schoolover:

Aladdin is one of my favorite disney films. I loved the 2004 dvd , but I really wish they would have given jasmine her own solo song though.

In the stage show at DCA, they gave her a solo. Not a very memorable one, though.

i also don't know why so many people find this better than the lion king. I love them both but aladdin is simply my Favorite.

You're not making sense. You claim not to know why most people find Aladdin better, but you never said that LK was your favorite. You said Aladdin was your favorite. Explain.

[Dr.Mirakle32]

Is there ANY chance this might get a Blu Ray release in 2010 to coincide with the theatrical release of PRINCE OF PERSIA? That film is being distributed by Disney, and has a similar 1001 Nights-style fantasy setting. They just might want to cash-in on the Middle-Eastern fantasy genre and bring this classic back.

If not then, a 20th Anniversary Edition in 2012 would make the most sense.

Just a thought.

[ajmrowland]

^Prince of Persia is being distributed by Disney, but an Aladdin Blu-ray release coinciding with it is not being worked on, and only has about as much a chance as the Hidalgo trailer ending up on the Freaky Friday(2003) dvd.

[Kyle]

So you're telling me there's a chance!

[schoollover]

What I meant is that I love both The Lion King and Aladdin ,But Aladdin is simply better in all areas execpt for sales and and disneys attention.