Sailor Moon The Movie

[Elladorine]

And I was just thinking, after digging up those Meaghan pics, I'm going to HAVE to use them to do some Sailor Moon fan art now. Well, soon as I can free up some time.

Looking forward to it! I think I'm itching to draw her again as well, but I've got a few commitments to plow through first.

To be honest, I couldn't stand the dub of the later seasons. The translation seemed more straightforward but I actually missed the goofy feel of the early seasons. I actually missed DiC's music cues as well, sometimes the Japanese incidental music feels pretty odd (although I still love the vocals). Most importantly, Rini's new voice was really cute but couldn't make up for Serena's and Amy's new voices, they were just horrible and made me miss the actresses that played them before. I'm glad those DVD's are bilingual, I just watch those in Japanese. As for the earlier eps, I enjoy watching them in either language.

DiC did butcher the last two eps of the first season, but I can almost understand why they did what they did. The target audience was pretty young and it got pretty brutal.

BTW, a fan-dubbed version of the last eps of the first season for a different take (you know the, part that DiC really butchered) . . .

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The rest of it can be found on youtube through this user: http://www.youtube.com/user/charmedfan123456

I'd actually found another fandub a while back that I liked better but can't seem to find it now.

[Widdi]

That dubbing actually isn't half bad... Looks like my bedtime is delayed. lol

[slave2moonlight]

To be honest, I couldn't stand the dub of the later seasons. The translation seemed more straightforward but I actually missed the goofy feel of the early seasons. I actually missed DiC's music cues as well, sometimes the Japanese incidental music feels pretty odd (although I still love the vocals). Most importantly, Rini's new voice was really cute but couldn't make up for Serena's and Amy's new voices, they were just horrible and made me miss the actresses that played them before. I'm glad those DVD's are bilingual, I just watch those in Japanese. As for the earlier eps, I enjoy watching them in either language.

DiC did butcher the last two eps of the first season, but I can almost understand why they did what they did. The target audience was pretty young and it got pretty brutal.

BTW, a fan-dubbed version of the last eps of the first season for a different take (you know the, part that DiC really butchered) . . .

Yeah, I need to catch some of those later dubs again. I think I remember that Serena's voice was worse because she was trying to talk like the previous actress and was overdoing it in the worst way. If I'm remembering correctly. I don't remember Amy's later voice. I just really liked Rini's, ha. But I agree with you about missing the goofy feeling of the earlier DIC episodes.

And thanks for posting the vid. I hope I get a chance to watch it before they take it down (Though I dread seing brutal things happen to my scouts!). I'm off to work right now though. Ugh.

[Elladorine]

I've got a DVD around here somewhere that has an english fandub of the first 6 (I think) eps of Sailor Stars, and they're probably on youtube somewhere too. I also used to have a VHS somewhere of the first four eps Sailor Moon S, also as a fandub (seems I used to be big on those, lol) long before Cloverway dubbed them. Unfortunately I lent it to a friend and never got it back. I liked it a lot better than the Cloverway version, lol.

Yeah, I agree Serena's new voice actress was trying too hard to imitate Terri Hawkes, it sounded like she was singing every line for the first ten eps or so, although she did begin to feel more natural over time. And Amy's new voice was just . . . awkward? Apparently she was friends with the original actress who actually recommended her when she couldn't return but the accent felt so forced.

As for Rini's second voice, just wow, I still love it, lol. Slightly off-topic here, but she was a DJ in Canada for a while; this song was part of her radio show and it's fun to picture Rini singing it (warning, it's a parody of Slim Shady, lol). . .

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[Super Aurora]

You guys are making it out that DIC Sailor Moon is most butchered anime. Have you even seen 4Kids' One Piece or "Cardcaptor"(yes, Cardcaptor, not Cardcaptor Sakura)

Anyway on to the quotes:

Umm, hate to burst your bubble but that article was posted almost two years ago. If there were any truth to it we'd know more by now.

Sailor Moon the movie wont happen because the owner refuses to sell the rights to it. That's why the don't show Sailor Moon in english speaking countries anymore and why the manga has been out of print for so long.

Exactly. Toei is a money grubbing bitch now. Once the Live action series came out, it was over for the anime.

Still, I would have watched it for the cute live-action AND animated girls, ha.

The Japanese live action series suck hard. You know there is something wrong when Ayaka Komastsu(Sailor Venus) got hired after showing the executives her ping pong skills in the interview.

As Angry Video Game Nerd would say: "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!"


But yea this rumor is fault. Othrwise Anime News Network would say something about it right away. On other hand, a Cowboy Bebop movie is green-lighted.

[slave2moonlight]

Oh man, that Rini video was hilarious!!! That girl has the cutest voice ever I think.

[Elladorine]

You guys are making it out that DIC Sailor Moon is most butchered anime. Have you even seen 4Kids' One Piece or "Cardcaptor"(yes, Cardcaptor, not Cardcaptor Sakura)

I'd say that Sailor Moon and Cardcaptors were "butchered" almost equally. I can't say with One Piece, I've only read how angry some of the fans were.

And for those not familiar with the infamous Saban trailer . . . um . . . enjoy?

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Now *that* would have been butchering!

[Super Aurora]

You guys are making it out that DIC Sailor Moon is most butchered anime. Have you even seen 4Kids' One Piece or "Cardcaptor"(yes, Cardcaptor, not Cardcaptor Sakura)

I'd say that Sailor Moon and Cardcaptors were "butchered" almost equally. I can't say with One Piece, I've only read how angry some of the fans were.

No. Sailor Moon had some censoring, edits and bad dubbing. Cardcaptor Sakura had it's ENTIRE plot rewritten. That's right. Whole story is change. Sailor Moon never had that big of a change in edit.

As for One Piece from 4kids, huge amount of episodes were skipped causing confusion and shit. The edits and censors were really pathetic and made no sense. The edit ENGLISH TEXT out of background suck as books, boards and stuff. I mean what's the point? they wasting money on useless edits.

If I had say what level Sailor Moon's badness is with, i'd be with DBZ. Both were able carry story general broadness on well par level, and the edits and censorship is around the same level too.

Ah yes, that video. Funny shit.

[Chernabog_Rocks]

I'm a bit lost on the Cardcaptors part anyone care to clarify? I mean, I have the manga for it and I have the vhs/dvd's of the english version of the show. What's the major difference? Perhaps I'm just not far enough along yet in the manga to see it?

[Widdi]

Wow... I've heard about the Saban trailer before but that was my first time actually seeing it, and wow...

Any butchering the dub may have done is forgiven. At least we got the dub instead of that steaming pile.

Wow...

[Dottie]

I've also heard a lot about that Saban Trailer, but never seen it.
It's absolutely hilarious!! So bad it's good. I love the guys who start laughing like heck during the presentation.
And was that a wheel-chair???

[Super Aurora]

I'm a bit lost on the Cardcaptors part anyone care to clarify? I mean, I have the manga for it and I have the vhs/dvd's of the english version of the show. What's the major difference? Perhaps I'm just not far enough along yet in the manga to see it?

Basically, The main character is change. Instead of Sakura being the main heroine, it's Syroan Li. Because of this, they were intending this series to be aimed at boys not girls as it's suppose to.
They also took apart/spliced togeter the entire series to fit the boy demograph.

While I can understand this edit, it's still ridiculous. Basically, Tomoyo is not only Sakura's best friend(like intended in the US show), but she's also Sakura's cousin and she in love with Sakura. Tomoyo's mother also has feelings for Sakura's mother while in the american they are just friends.

Also took out love scene involving Sakura and Syaron.

Basically they took out a lot of elements that made Cardcaptor Sakura, Cardcaptor Sakura. Cardcaptor is basically more of another generic pokemon like show where they just go and capture cards. Hence why it's aimed for boys in US.

At least with Sailor Moon, they didn't changed the demograph it's suppose to be aimed at, plus were able to keep they general content of story in. yes few little character changes but not to Cardcaptor degree.

[Elladorine]

No. Sailor Moon had some censoring, edits and bad dubbing. Cardcaptor Sakura had it's ENTIRE plot rewritten. That's right. Whole story is change. Sailor Moon never had that big of a change in edit.

True, and I can totally see your point, but Sailor Moon did have some pretty major changes that really add up IMO, including the gender of an important character, removing many subplots/origins, digital manipulations, deleting and combining whole episodes, etc.

Anyway, I was mostly referring to the fact that in both shows (at least in the DiC/Nelvana adaptations) so much was deleted/combined/changed/rearranged/Americanized that it was impossible to release bilingual DVD's, even if deleted scenes were reinserted.

BTW, another interesting Sailor Moon trailer, this time from DiC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5fIcQTWfjk (linked because embedding was disabled).

Names and voices were obviously not yet finalized. Note the importance of marketing and merchandising, not to mention stressing the need to capture a male audience.

[slave2moonlight]

Ha, I know that was just for Network execs or whatever, but it was awful too. So weird to see the girls introduced with those different names.

As for getting the male audience, I remember it was early in college for me, and I wasn't the only guy watching this show largely for the gorgeous demon-fighting girls in the best superhero outfits ever, ha.

[Chernabog_Rocks]

Basically, The main character is change. Instead of Sakura being the main heroine, it's Syroan Li. Because of this, they were intending this series to be aimed at boys not girls as it's suppose to.
They also took apart/spliced togeter the entire series to fit the boy demograph.

While I can understand this edit, it's still ridiculous. Basically, Tomoyo is not only Sakura's best friend(like intended in the US show), but she's also Sakura's cousin and she in love with Sakura. Tomoyo's mother also has feelings for Sakura's mother while in the american they are just friends.

Also took out love scene involving Sakura and Syaron.

Basically they took out a lot of elements that made Cardcaptor Sakura, Cardcaptor Sakura. Cardcaptor is basically more of another generic pokemon like show where they just go and capture cards. Hence why it's aimed for boys in US.

I don't know if I fully agree about the first part, I mean from all the episodes I have, Sakura comes across as the lead one while Li just seems like more of a main character as well but not the lead one. Perhaps I just haven't seen a wide enough variety of the episodes yet.

Also, I think you missed the relationship between Yuki and Toya (sp?) I think that was edited/changed around as well.

Now that I think of it, wasn't Mei Lin a "new" character made just for the english version? I haven't come across her in the first two volumes of the manga at all.

[Elladorine]

Now that I think of it, wasn't Mei Lin a "new" character made just for the english version? I haven't come across her in the first two volumes of the manga at all.

Actually Mei Lin was created specifically for the anime so that's why she doesn't appear in the manga.

Had she been created specifically for the English version that would mean Nelvana would have to have created new animation, something a company typically wouldn't spend money on when dubbing an anime.

Here's some info on the differences between the English version and the original Japanese: http://www.ccsvscc.com/

[Super Aurora]

I don't know if I fully agree about the first part, I mean from all the episodes I have, Sakura comes across as the lead one while Li just seems like more of a main character as well but not the lead one. Perhaps I just haven't seen a wide enough variety of the episodes yet.

There was some instint that had Li as main one. Also even when I was younger and watching the show, I thought it was another pokemon oriented show before I realize otherwise. This shows that they really intended to show the show as an entirely different type of show(monster catching series) as a magical shojo genre.

That's like saying taking Berserk(dark fantasy; seinen) and changing the series into a mecha series.

[Poody]

As for Rini's second voice, just wow, I still love it, lol. Slightly off-topic here, but she was a DJ in Canada for a while; this song was part of her radio show and it's fun to picture Rini singing it (warning, it's a parody of Slim Shady, lol). . .

She also interviewed Jodi Benson recently....

[slave2moonlight]

As for Rini's second voice, just wow, I still love it, lol. Slightly off-topic here, but she was a DJ in Canada for a while; this song was part of her radio show and it's fun to picture Rini singing it (warning, it's a parody of Slim Shady, lol). . .

Okay, ha, you've gotten me hooked on this video! I absolutely adore that voice! I love the part where she almost says the F-word, ha. I found her MySpace page. I hope she accepts my friend request.

[totallyminnie86]

Hey guys. Just wanted to jump in here and say that back in the 90's I lived and breathed Sailor Moon as well. Ha, the infamous Saban trailier, oh man, I think and live action SM movie would be better than that. However, its so hilarious... I still laugh at it almost 10 years since I first saw it.

I remember all those Geena Davis rumors too. I really don't see this happening at all. Its been over a decade. I agree with what everyone else is saying. I also admit to not *hating* the DIC dub, it was entertaining. (Except for the terrible voice they got for Serena when they finally dubbed S)

I wonder though, would a movie take a darker tone like the manga, or would it be more fluffy like the anime.