The Little Mermaid:Ariel's Beginning Discussion Thread Vol.3

[Siren]

You know,maybe some of you can start THINKING and then realize there's 4 pages left until the thread will be locked but I guess you"re so whiney you that don't have a topic to fill a whole page .

We're you THINKING when you wrote 3th? Seriously, if you are going to say they aren't thinking and are being whiny, they you should act smart and whine less, otherwise you're just being hypocritical. I'm sorry if I come off as mean, and I wasn't going to say a thing about the 3th, till you made that statement. People make mistakes. Its understandable, but when you make a mistake like that, making an innuendo that people critical of you are not thinking makes you look hypocritical. Why not just say "Oops my bad" and get on with it. Insulting another's intelligence because they pointed you the fact that you made a seriously silly mistake really is very ironic.

[Vermin Friends]

*cough*... Uhh...

Anyway, I found a new clip on the Disney.com site, which reveals quite a lot about the sisters' individual personalities. I also recorded the full 30-second TV Spot for TLM3, which I also just uploaded.

The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning TV Spot

The Sisters' Personalities Revealed


And in case anyone needs them, here's all the TLM3 videos/clips I uploaded:

TV Spots:
Keep Oceans Clean
The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning TV Spot

DVD Feature Previews:
Teaching Mermaids To Dance
The World Wide Water Web, DVD Game

Full Clips:
Athena's Song
The Sisters' Personalities Revealed
A Night at the Catfish Club

Nine more days, guys!

[Ariel'sprince]

You know,maybe some of you can start THINKING and then realize there's 4 pages left until the thread will be locked but I guess you"re so whiney you that don't have a topic to fill a whole page .

We're you THINKING when you wrote 3th? Seriously, if you are going to say they aren't thinking and are being whiny, they you should act smart and whine less, otherwise you're just being hypocritical. I'm sorry if I come off as mean, and I wasn't going to say a thing about the 3th, till you made that statement. People make mistakes. Its understandable, but when you make a mistake like that, making an innuendo that people critical of you are not thinking makes you look hypocritical. Why not just say "Oops my bad" and get on with it. Insulting another's intelligence because they pointed you the fact that you made a seriously silly mistake really is very ironic.

What? what's your point? what's bad about saying that it's the 3th thread? it IS the 3th thread,and no,thread III won't changed much.

[Old Fish Tale]

Nice spot! Thanks, Vermin Friends! I can't wait!

[Vermin Friends]

We're you THINKING when you wrote 3th? Seriously, if you are going to say they aren't thinking and are being whiny, they you should act smart and whine less, otherwise you're just being hypocritical. I'm sorry if I come off as mean, and I wasn't going to say a thing about the 3th, till you made that statement. People make mistakes. Its understandable, but when you make a mistake like that, making an innuendo that people critical of you are not thinking makes you look hypocritical. Why not just say "Oops my bad" and get on with it. Insulting another's intelligence because they pointed you the fact that you made a seriously silly mistake really is very ironic.

What? what's your point? what's bad about saying that it's the 3th thread? it IS the 3th thread,and no,thread III won't changed much.

Her point is that you're calling people stupid because they didn't see the point in opening the 3rd thread four pages early, while you fail to realize that you're calling this the 3th thread, when the correct term to use is 3rd.

I really mean no offense, but I have to agree with Siren- you're being hypocritical by insulting other people's intelligence, when you obviously can not spell.

edit:

Nice spot! Thanks, Vermin Friends! I can't wait!

No problem! I can't wait, either!

[Ariel'sprince]

What? what's your point? what's bad about saying that it's the 3th thread? it IS the 3th thread,and no,thread III won't changed much.

Her point is that you're calling people stupid because they didn't see the point in opening the 3rd thread four pages early, while you fail to realize that you're calling this the 3th thread, when the correct term to use is 3rd.

I really mean no offense, but I have to agree with Siren- you're being hypocritical by insulting other people's intelligence, when you obviously can not spell

What? that's why you"re so whiney? because I worte 3rd insted of third and 3th insted of 3rd? well,if you didn't noticed I know how to spell,that's really whiney.
And you know,maybe you can think a little insted of waiting for someone to tell you that you can now open a new thread.

[CJ]

It's time to drop the 3th, 3rd arguing. I fixed his thread title yesterday, after I locked the old thread. Please stop the petty bickering and get this thread back topic.

[Ariel'sprince]

Okay.

[PeterPanfan]

No need to respond, Sprince(I have to use it, Mike & Scaps!).

So people are saying this won't be the last DTV because it was already in production when they announced there would be no more DTVs?

[Ariel'sprince]

Are you sure there won't be more cheapquels? (I don't know if they"ll agree to give up on making more money).

[REINIER]

I would like to personally thank Vermin Friends for all the effort posting the clips in this thread.
I like Athena's song best thanx again
Love the avatar too!

[Vermin Friends]

I would like to personally thank Vermin Friends for all the effort posting the clips in this thread.
I like Athena's song best thanx again
Love the avatar too!

Oh no, it's my pleasure really- I'm just helping out those who don't have access to the sites that the clips were originally posted on. I'm so glad you appreciate it!

[REINIER]

Most of you have no doubt already picked up on this, then again maybe not
(been absent here for quite some time )

Not to burst anyones buble, but I can't help but notice the absence
of Ursula in this review I read over at www.jimhillmedia.com

To quote:

Ms. Del Rey is still no match for Ursula.

Though -- if you keep your eyes peeled toward the end of Marina's "I Want" song, "Just One Mistake" -- you will see, in a neat tip-of-the-hat to the sea witch, that this film's animators do briefly put this ambitious governess in an outfit that's very reminiscent of the preliminary designs that Disney animators initially cooked up for Ursula.


So I think I will be left in the dark forever
Always wondering ....is this one and the same person or is this twoface
????

Well just wait and see I guess

[Disney Duster]

Siren, well this was the first time you wrote it out as an actual plot for the prequel? And I added The Little Merman's.

I agree, Mike! It seems there's this huge dramatic beginning, and then the rest is this..almost naive plot. It's like, the beginning is too deep for kids, and the middle/ending is too childish for teenagers/adults.

Didn't think of it like that...I think you're right. And so what we need is a completely serious, deep movie...like those three better plots on the first page of this thread.

Also, regarding the other DTV sequels, I know that The Little Mermaid III was too far along to scrap, and so they let it go, also because it was princess-related, the princesses are biggest thing in Disney, the biggest money makers. Only the Tinker Bell movies are left. Lasseter will try not to let any more cheapquels get made, but many think they will not be able to stay away from these hugely successful products.

Reiner, I'm hoping that Ursula will be related to Marina or somewhere in the movie, but just so you know people that have seen the movie say no. I'm holding out for the DVD to have a secret something about her, because the screenings of the movie the other people saw were not the DVD.

And...I watched Athena's Song...bad animation yet again.

[gumby17]

And...I watched Athena's Song...bad animation yet again.

i think ur standards are to high for a DTV sequel (prequel)[/quote]

[UmbrellaFish]

I have to agree with gumby17. Of course the animation's not perfect, but it's pretty darn good for a sequel if you ask me. Is it worse than the stuff in TLM2, Cindy2, Aladdin2, ect. ect.? If I compare it to all those, I should compare it with Cindy3... Which was extraordinary. But I think Bambi 2 and Tarzan 2 (yes, I didn't think it was that bad) both had amazing animation, even though not on-par with Cindy3. So I suppose I think that (from the clips), the animation is amazing. Not extraordinary, but amazing (for a cheapquel).

And now onto the story. Pretty daring to showcase Ariel's mother's death. I admit the middle is simple. But, as it seems, not boring, which is important. A simple story, while not a long-winding story with twists and turns, can still be just as good, if not better in some instances, than an epic. And... I think the simple story works for this film. When I'm at home, by myself, it's night-time and I'm laying in my bed watching DVDs, I don't want a serious film. I want a happy, simple, and good movie. When I'm wide-awake in the middle of the day, by myself, and bored, I want a serious film. So just because a story isn't complex on many levels doesn't mean it can't be good. I understand some people want a film that's huge, over-whelming, and just... epic! But a film about emotion, tears, confessions, yada, yada, yada.... Doesn't automatically equal "Good film!".

[gumby17]

Not extraordinary, but amazing (for a cheapquel).

i like that term haha!

[Disney Duster]

Oh, well, I don't think everyone's been saying the animation's amazing for a cheapquel, but if that's what you mean, I can see that.

Yet, DisneyToon Studios proved they can have better animation.

It's just that when people say so many good things about it using really strong positive adjectives...I wonder how they can say that.

I'm also slightly confused, some people say this is by DisneyToon Studios, but they shut down after Cinderella III and this movie's being out-sourced (yes, that's why it's not as good as DisneyToon's last efforts).

When we watch the DVD credits, we can find out.

As for the story...if the original was so much more deep and thrilling and complex, compared to this, so should this try to be. And if we came up with better plots, and they have something for everyone, instead of some fun for some people who just want fun but not the deep complex stuff others want...they're jipping us.

[Vermin Friends]

And...I watched Athena's Song...bad animation yet again.

Fine. But why?

You're constantly criticizing the animation in this movie, but never giving a legitimate reason. What makes it bad? How do you know it's bad? Have you studied animation? I will not sit here and listen to you bash the hard work the animators have put into this film anymore.

[jeremy88]

well, I don't think the animation is as terrible as some Disney DTV's, but there are some chopped up areas, like some frames almost appear to be missing. I noticed when Athena swims toward Ariel, it almost looks as though her body stuttered a little. The good part about it is at least the characters are on model most of the time. I'm not going to lie though, even the original little mermaid has some badly animated parts. A lot of shots in Part of that World Ariel's really off model...

I'm sure Disney Duster will have more to back up on why he thinks the animation so bad.