Hurt or Heal: Controversial Disney Topics

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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears - 5 points (-2)
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 10 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 10 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 10 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears - 3 points (-2)
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 10 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 10 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 10 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears - 3 points
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again - 8 points (-1)

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 10 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points (+1)
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 10 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
WIST #60:
AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion? :p

WIST #61:
TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears - 1 points (-2)
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again - 8 points

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 10 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 10 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears - 0 points (-1) ELIMINATED!
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again - 8 points

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points (+1)
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 10 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again - 6 points (-2)

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 10 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
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I'm glad we're all finding out what I think about this topic. Where did the rest of the voters go? I'm sure more will join in after I've narrowed it down a bit more...

Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again - 4 points (-2)

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 10 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again - 2 points (-2)

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 10 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again - 0 points (-2) ELIMINATED!

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 10 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 8 points (-2)
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 6 points (-2)
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 4 points (-2)
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 2 points (-2)
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again
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Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 0 points (-2) ELIMINATED!
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad
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As long as I'm deciding on this order of this thing alone, maybe I should just save us all the time and post the final results right now. But in the interest of giving myself something to do every morning...

Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 10 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 8 points (-2)

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad
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Hurt or Heal: Controversial Disney

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Can we allow some controversial conversation? Stlewis, I can't believe you don't think the re-dubbing of Snow White's voice is controversial, or getting rid of 2-D animation at Disney!?!?!!!!

Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 8 points (-2)
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 8 points

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 11 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad
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It's possible that I'm voting the wrong way here... taking points off of things I mean to add points to. I may need some clarification, but here's what I was TRYING to vote for:

I was upset when they got rid of hand-drawn animation at Disney. The fact that they're going back to it is one of the best ideas I've heard in a very long time. Based on the wording of that one, I thought I was voting against the "RETURN of 2D" being controversial. 2D's return to Disney is the least controversial thing ever, in my opinion... so I voted that one out.

The way I understood it is that I'm supposed to vote out the stuff that I disagree with... the stuff I don't find controversial. If the other one had said, "Re-dubbing Snow White's voice," I wouldn't have voted it out. But it said to please do it. I disagree with that. I don't think Snow White's voice should be re-dubbed. I think it should be exactly what it was the day it was released.

If I'm voting the wrong way here, I'm glad someone finally corrected me. All I know is that I'm glad Disney bought Pixar, Snow White's original voice isn't my favorite but I don't think it should be changed, I'm thrilled Disney is returning to 2D, the Disney Channel's Vault Disney should still be around, and Michael Eisner's last few years WERE that bad. That's what I was trying to vote for. I probably misunderstood the voting process in some way, but I agree with you, Disney Duster... re-dubbing Snow White's voice and Disney dropping 2-D are hugely controversial, and I disagree with both. If I've done it wrong, maybe we should take this thing back a month or so in time so I can start voting the right way.
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Hurt or Heal: Disney Controversy

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Yea, unfortunately the wording of the topics is...slightly...ambiguous. And confusing. So...maybe we need straight wording like "The re-dubbing of Snow White's voice" or "The elimination of 2-D at Disney" or "The last years of Eisner". Hopefully Escapay comes in here and we can work things out.
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Re: Hurt or Heal: Disney Controversy

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Mike wrote:Yea, unfortunately the wording of the topics is...slightly...ambiguous. And confusing. So...maybe we need straight wording like "The re-dubbing of Snow White's voice" or "The elimination of 2-D at Disney" or "The last years of Eisner". Hopefully Escapay comes in here and we can work things out.
Yeah, that's my fault and I'm here now to attempt to fix some of it...

Regarding how to pick what to hurt/heal, just a repeat (and some addendums) of what I said in a post on the first page:

All the topics are controversial in that the very idea of them will send fans and non-fans in a debate over whether or not it's a good idea (or whether or not it's true, such as the "Walt's head is frozen!" one). Thus, just the very idea of re-dubbing Snow White's voice (be it in the "the film will now be presented this way for future generations" or "it's a nice novelty") will spark controversy. It doesn't matter if it says "please re-dub" or "the voice is being re-dubbed". The very idea of a re-dubbing is controversial enough, regardless if Disney did it or not.

Regarding how to hurt/heal, you hurt a topic if you don't think it's controversial enough to merit being the last controversial topic left, and you heal a topic if you want it to stand out as the most controversial (which is somewhat the same as getting the most controversy). So in the case of Snow White, if you think re-dubbing is the worst idea ever and that it shouldn't be done under any circumstances, vote to heal it (so it remains the last controversial topic standing). But if you feel it's not as controversial as "Walt's Head is Frozen", then vote to hurt it.

The point of the game is to see which topic is the most controversial, thus, you want to heal ideas you hate (because it's sure to have more controversy) and hurt ideas you're not as hateful towards (because to you, it could have less controversy).

I don't think I'll reword any of the topics, because to me they seem rather self-explanatory (asking to re-dub Snow White is an abysmal idea to most, just as the shift from 2D to 3D to 2D shows my annoyance at Disney being flip-floppy). But if someone else wants to, by all means, go ahead.

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If it's all right, then, I'd like to return to the past on this thing and put the vote back to what it was before I misunderstood and ran it off course. I say we go back to about July 23rd... but still keep Disney Duster's and Escapy's votes since then. Mostly I'm just erasing all of my own votes for the last couple of weeks now that I understand what's going on. If this is okay with everyone, let's just start at this point:

Controversies Concerning Walt
Walt's Head Is Frozen! Really, It Is! - 8 points
Was Walt really an Anti-Semitic, Communist-Hatin', Parent-Resenting, Nasty Old Grouch? - 9 points

Controversies Concerning Disney Animated Classics
Please Re-Dub Snow White's Voice With Someone Less Grating To Your Ears - 9 points
Fantasia Should Have Been Edited - 10 points
Phasing out 2D Animation in favor of CGI...only to go back to 2D again - 8 points

Controversies Concerning Theme Parks
The Damn Hand-and-Wand at Epcot, and Fugly Hat at MGM - 10 points
The Creation of Disney's California Adventure - 10 points
The Closing of Downtown Disney's Pleasure Island - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Company & Marketing
The Overindulgence of Direct-To-Video Sequels - 11 points
Michael Eisner Last Few Years Weren't That Bad - 10 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Die! - 12 points
The Disney Princess Line Must Flourish! - 10 points

Controversies Concerning The Disney Channel
Getting rid of the "Vault Disney" programming on The Disney Channel - 20 points
The Overpromotion and Overhype of High School Musical - 10 points
Disney Channel Circle of Stars and the bunch of Smiley McTweenStars that have come since - 10 points

Controversies Concerning DVD
OAR Widescreen Movies Getting P&S/Open-Matte Fullscreen DVDs - 10 points
The Very Idea of The Disney Vault - 10 points
The Sorry Excuse of a Platinum Edition for Peter Pan - 10 points
Slipcovers - 8 points

Eliminated:
Disney Should Not Have Bought Pixar
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