People Calling Disney Films Racist!?

akhenaten · Post by **akhenaten** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:07 pm

granted madison is a fairly new name made popular by the film splash!

so it would not be relevant for a story set in the 1900s...

JiminyCrick91 · Post by **JiminyCrick91** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:53 pm

This reminds me of something that happened in my media class a few weeks back...

My imbecile media teacher (I disliked him prior to this too) was making us do movie reviews on a list on a DVD he found of 'Reviewers top 100'. Now this DVD was an awful mess and was filled with inaccuracies (much like my teacher) just one example is creating the film 2001: A space Odyssey as a product of 1938! So I showed him the AFI list (both before and after) and he began to rant about how awful it was that Snow White and Toy Story were on the list. Baffled I pried to get more info from him. He told me that aside from Fantasia and Pooh (which Disney stole) nearly everything they have done is crap. He did mention wonderful theme parks though. After telling him I'm a shareholder, I brought up UD, to which he said his respect for me had decreased astoundingly (I was so tempted to say' that’s ok I never had ANY respect for you'), and showed him the animated classics list. I asked him to give me his thoughts on all of them and this (if I can recall is what he said).

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs- Awful.
Pinocchio- Ick.
Fantasia - Okay, that’s an important film.
Dumbo- Racist.
Bambi- Please.
Saludos Amigos- Ick.
The Three Caballeros- Never saw it.
Make Mine Music- Never heard of it
Fun and Fancy Free- Never saw it.
Melody Time- Never heard of it.
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad- Meh.
Cinderella- Come On!
Alice in Wonderland- Ugh.
Peter Pan- No.
Lady and the Tramp- Ugh again.
Sleeping Beauty- Awful.
101 Dalmatians- Oh! Yes that ones okay.
The Sword in the Stone- Never saw it.
The Jungle Book- Crap
The Aristocats- Crap
Robin Hood- Nope.
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh- I like that.
The Rescuers- Ha! Yeha, right.
The Fox and the Hound- No.
The Black Cauldron- No.
The Great Mouse Detective- God, no!
Oliver & Company- Unh-nuh.
The Little Mermaid- Racist
The Rescuers Down Under- Racist.
Beauty and the Beast- Total crap.
Aladdin- Very racist and this one really offend me because my family is Arabic so...
The Lion King- (rolls eyes)
Pocahontas- Racist.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame- Bad.
Hercules- Very bad.
Mulan- Raaaac-ist!
Tarzan- Crap.
Fantasia 2000- Meh. Not as good as the original.
The Emperor's New Groove- (rolls eyes and says) Terribly dated
Atlantis: The Lost Empire- Crap.
Lilo & Stitch- (In mock happy tone) This one is actually okay! There NOT racist to Hawaiians!
Treasure Planet- Ugh, never saw it.
Brother Bear- Never saw it
Home on the Range- Never saw it.
Chicken Little- Never saw that.
Meet the Robinsons- Looked awful.

Then I showed him a little on Bolt and Rapunzal to which he rolled his eyes and told me how very racist Walt was and that his is/was a known member of the KKK.

I was so close to punching him right in the nose.

akhenaten · Post by **akhenaten** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:56 pm

maybe what he meant by racists is it features....non caucasin characters

n clearly he dislikes fantasies.

PeterPanfan · Post by **PeterPanfan** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:27 pm

I don't think he should be a teacher..

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:42 pm

JiminyCrick91 wrote:My imbecile media teacher (I disliked him prior to this too) was making us do movie reviews on a list on a DVD he found of 'Reviewers top 100'. Now this DVD was an awful mess and was filled with inaccuracies (much like my teacher) just one example is creating the film 2001: A space Odyssey as a product of 1938! So I showed him the AFI list (both before and after) and he began to rant about how awful it was that Snow White and Toy Story were on the list. Baffled I pried to get more info from him. He told me that aside from Fantasia and Pooh (which Disney stole) nearly everything they have done is crap. He did mention wonderful theme parks though. After telling him I'm a shareholder, I brought up UD, to which he said his respect for me had decreased astoundingly (I was so tempted to say' that’s ok I never had ANY respect for you'), and showed him the animated classics list. I asked him to give me his thoughts on all of them and this (if I can recall is what he said).

Skyler, your media teacher is a hack. Complain to the school board and get him fired. How the hell would someone who is SUPPOSED to know about media think that 2001: A Space Odyssey was made in 1938? Please!

Regarding the Disney stuff, he's probably just angry at them because a Mickey Mouse didn't stop and sign his autograph book when he went to Disneyland in 1959. That or he's just one of those close-minded "Bah, Disney is for kids no matter how you try and spin it" jerkoffs.

Also, tell him something along the lines of "Walt Disney achieved more in his 40+ years in the animation industry and has inspired many people in the moviemaking business, while none of your students will ever remember or like you, and nobody will care if you retire and move to Florida to be a shuffleboard-playing, rheumatism-is-back, eat-dinner-at-4, break-your-hip, balding-and-sagging, bitter and impotent old excuse for a man"

Albert

akhenaten · Post by **akhenaten** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:47 pm

i bet it is solidly, firmly, undeniably, indestructably planted in his head that kubrick was super super decades ahead of his time. if kubrick was his age in 38..that would make him....like.... very old when he died?

Simba3 · Post by **Simba3** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:53 pm

Escapay wrote: Regarding the Disney stuff, he's probably just angry at them because a Mickey Mouse didn't stop and sign his autograph book when he went to Disneyland in 1959.

That is probably the best explanation. He is still a crying little boy with no signature in his book.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:01 pm

Simba3 wrote:
Escapay wrote: Regarding the Disney stuff, he's probably just angry at them because a Mickey Mouse didn't stop and sign his autograph book when he went to Disneyland in 1959.
That is probably the best explanation. He is still a crying little boy with no signature in his book.

I wonder if the guy still has the autograph book in his desk, and he carries it around with him, with that lingering hope that one day he'll return to Disneyland and get that autograph. Then he'll be on Disney's good side again!

Hmm...maybe that's all you need to do, Skyler! Get him an autograph by Mickey Mouse that says something like "Hiya Pal! Stop badmouthing my company and I'll let you into Disneyland for free without waiting in any lines!"

Albert

JiminyCrick91 · Post by **JiminyCrick91** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:02 pm

Escapay wrote: How the hell would someone who is SUPPOSED to know about media think that 2001: A Space Odyssey was made in 1938? Please!

Sorry Albert, the DVD he got said that. He is the type that says 'You know that Animal House was one of the highest grossing Canadian films in history?' Even though it was shot in Oregon and funded with Californian money. I told him that I thought he ment 'Porky's' and he said ‘No you must be mistaken’, saying how great full screen is in ALL circumstances and other dumb, silly things. So he's dumb but not dumb enough to think 2001 was not a 1938 film.

Also for what it's worth, akhenaten. Kubrick whould be 10 in the year 1938.

Hmm...maybe that's all you need to do, Skyler! Get him an autograph by Mickey Mouse that says something like "Hiya Pal! Stop badmouthing my company and I'll let you into Disneyland for free without waiting in any lines!"

By God, I'll try it!

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:16 pm

JiminyCrick91 wrote:
Escapay wrote: How the hell would someone who is SUPPOSED to know about media think that 2001: A Space Odyssey was made in 1938? Please!
Sorry Albert, the DVD he got said that. He is the type that says 'You know that Animal House was one of the highest grossing Canadian films in history?' Even though it was shot in Oregon and funded with Californian money. I told him that I thought he ment 'Porky's' and he said ‘No you must be mistaken’, saying how great full screen is in ALL circumstances and other dumb, silly things. So he's dumb but not dumb enough to think 2001 was not a 1938 film.

Geez, this guy can't get anything right, can he? No wonder nobody likes him. How the hell did he get the job as media teacher? Did he sleep with the school board or something?

Albert

Simba3 · Post by **Simba3** » Mon May 26, 2008 10:20 pm

Escapay wrote: I wonder if the guy still has the autograph book in his desk, and he carries it around with him, with that lingering hope that one day he'll return to Disneyland and get that autograph. Then he'll be on Disney's good side again!

Until then, the pages saturated only by his own tears, and to his devastation, not with ink.

amazon980 · Post by **amazon980** » Mon May 26, 2008 10:56 pm

How is the little mermaid racist?

BelleGirl · Post by **BelleGirl** » Tue May 27, 2008 3:09 am

amazon980 wrote:How is the little mermaid racist?

I think they are referring to Sebastian the crab, because he is a carribian-type. He is one of the funniest characters in the movie, but some people are offended by the inclusion of such an 'etnic' character and call it racist.

Siren · Post by **Siren** » Tue May 27, 2008 5:28 am

Yeah, lest we forget a black man voiced Sebastian, so he didn't see anything wrong with it.

Usually the only ones who are racist in things like this are the ones who are making these unjustifiable claims.

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:01 am

Siren wrote:Yeah, lest we forget a black man voiced Sebastian, so he didn't see anything wrong with it.

Usually the only ones who are racist in things like this are the ones who are making these unjustifiable claims.

I don't think that's an infallable measurement though Siren. Different people have different tolerance levels after all. A comedian can tell a joke about 9/11 and claim it's not in bad taste. Does that mean its not?

I seem to remember the guy who played Jar Jar Binks was adamant Jar Jar wasn't racist. I think you'll be hard pushed to find anyone who doesn't spot any racist undertones in Jar Jar to be honest. (I don't put this down to intent though, just a typically bad Lucas script caused by lazy writing).

Although this is in no way comparable to a cartoon lobster and any slight-offence that may or may not cause, one example is the British National Party (BNP). This is basically a legitimate political party which has policies most people agree by consent are racist (typically anti-immigration, as well as a commitment to sent migrates, both legal and illegal, "back home"). Yet they have at least one non-white candidate who insists the policies are not racist, but just ecomonic sense.

Now, I know the definition of racist is sketchy at best, but like I say, the general opinion in the UK is that this is a racist party, and being as society defines its own rules and limits, being as the majority see them as racist, its not inaccurate to describe them and their policies as such. Yet they still have some non-white, non-indiginous supporters. Does that make them non-racist after all?

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:12 am

JiminyCrick91 wrote: Cinderella- Come On!
Beauty and the Beast- Total crap.
Aladdin- Very racist and this one really offend me because my family is Arabic so...
Sleeping Beauty- Awful.
The Little Mermaid- Racist.

.
He shouldn't be teacher.
Did he even saw those films?.

BelleGirl · Post by **BelleGirl** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:32 am

Ariel'sprince wrote:
JiminyCrick91 wrote: Cinderella- Come On!
Beauty and the Beast- Total crap.
Aladdin- Very racist and this one really offend me because my family is Arabic so...
Sleeping Beauty- Awful.
The Little Mermaid- Racist.
.
He shouldn't be teacher.
Did he even saw those films?.

Well,the way he treats his pupils: " My respect for you has decreases astoundingly" puts him down as an arrogant prig. No teacher should behave that way indeed!

UmbrellaFish · Post by **UmbrellaFish** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:41 am

That teacher is.... an idiot.

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Tue May 27, 2008 9:57 am

Well, I can kind of understand why someone would assume Lumiere was racist (it depicts French men as seducers and obsessed with women), but you also have Mrs. Potts and Cogsworth to balance that out.

I really can't think of why Sebastian is racist though. Is it because he has a black voice and sings calypso? Does anyone honestly think a white man could've done that and noone would've thought it was just strange (or perhaps more racist because they chose a white man over a black man to do the voice)? Or maybe it's stereotypical of how black slaves had to care for the white farmer's daughter? I have no idea.

Anyway, you can't expect anyone who claims "racism" at the drop of a dime to be worth any consideration. I'm frankly surprised that noone's ever mentioned that many of Disney's evil villains have been "colored."

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Tue May 27, 2008 10:13 am

I really agree about that stupid teacher.
About Sebastian-I saw a list of racist Disney characters and Sebastian was them because he tells Ariel that "Up on the shore they work all day,Out in the sun they slave away,While we devoting full time to floating
Under the sea" and because of the Duke Of Soul and Blackfish.
That's just nonsense,he means that *humans* works all day and merpeople and sea animales aren't (Including the Duke Of Soul and Blackfish).
It's not racist.

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