YouTube Bullying ... A Serious Case!!

[Siren]

Escapay, now those were funny. Thank you. I will save those.

I don't like it when people use the word "retarded" repeatably. If it slips out now and then when they aren't putting down a mentally handicapped person, I can deal. I knew some people who said retarded all the time. They aren't my friends.

Also, it is popular culture that has turned the word "retarded" into an insult and offensive term. Just like gay simply use to mean, "happy". Not it describes people who are attracted to the same sex or is used as an insult like "that is so gay". But once, gay only meant "happy". It was used in songs and poetry. It was popular culture that turned it into a insult.
Retard originally meant "slow". Read a few books written in the 15th century and beyond, when the word was originated you will see it used as an adjective to describe how a horse drawn buggy was being "retarded". Did that mean the horses were slow to learn? No, it meant the horses were slowing down.
There are literally hundreds of words that have their meaning every changing due to popular culture.

[Lazario]

Lazario, I still don't think that just because there are more offensive words, that's an excuse to use a less offensive word.

Duster - "retarded" is not an offensive word. How many ways can I put that to you?

It may bother you, and you and Siren may think people using the word actually mean offense to the handicapped when they say it, but in reality, it is only derogatorily directed at a handicapped person 1 time out of 1 million at most. You're assuming everyone means offense when they use it. That is you taking the word out of context.

I can't believe I'm going to say this- but don't be overly sensitive. There have to be some quality insults left without people telling us they're offensive. I don't buy it. And if I don't buy it... well, I think you guys can finish that off by yourselves.

[Disney Duster]

Siren, the joke obviously likened the word retarded in the mental handicap sense to something bad that people have control of. The argument that the word didn't mean to be so offensive is irrelevent, the word was clearly meant to be in the joke.

Of course, if you weren't trying to justify the joke with that info about what the word used to mean, I apologize.

Lazario, things can offend without meaning to.

Yes, if people don't know they're offending, you can't blame them, but in today's world people know the adjective retarded is not good to use and could offend. It's quite similar to saying something is "gay". You take a word that means one thing (what it used to mean doesn't matter when we know how a homophobe is using it) and make it mean something bad. I have been very guilty of using the word in that sense, and I'm trying to stop, but even then, I am actually gay, so I can use it, but not a straight person (who isn't my friend and I know what they mean when they use it).

"Quality insults"? I'd say only Escapay's have fit that bill.

[Lazario]

Lazario, things can offend without meaning to.

Of course. I made a note of that myself. If you are overly sensitive.

Yes, if people don't know they're offending, you can't blame them, but in today's world people know the adjective retarded is not good to use and could offend.

So? Every single person on this board can give an example of how political correctness going too far has made them a victim in a conversation or discussion or social situation. Nobody will say the system that accepts "retarded" as an offensive term is a perfect system. So, I choose to ignore the people who count the term as offensive. I think I'm being intelligent in doing so. Because - like I stated - there is a world of difference between handicapped people and people of true minorities.

It's quite similar to saying something is "gay". You take a word that means one thing (what it used to mean doesn't matter when we know how a homophobe is using it) and make it mean something bad. I have been very guilty of using the word in that sense, and I'm trying to stop, but even then, I am actually gay, so I can use it, but not a straight person (who isn't my friend and I know what they mean when they use it).

I disagree. In fact, you can't compare most of the people who choose to use the word "retarded" to those who use the word "gay." Over 90% of people who use the word "gay" have actual hatred for gay people. Fewer than 20% of people who use "retarded" even think about what the word means. Plus, it's been an accepted word for a lot longer than "gay" as an insult has. I've heard people using the word as far back as the early 1990's. When I was younger than 10.

[Disney Duster]

I don't care if you call me overly sensitive, I'm still going to try to stop people from doing something wrong they know is wrong (or could do wrong), even if you don't think it's "that wrong". It's similar to how we call girls and boys "guys" and we call boys "guys" but girls are only called girls. There's something discriminating in the tiniest bit of langauge. If we can't stop the small stuff how will we stop the big stuff? The big stuff is more obvious to get rid of. A while ago, we wondered what was wrong with keeping women only as housekeepers. I mean, it's not like men were beating women all the time. But yea, we gotta get to the "less worse" stuff, too.

I know I will slip on on using the word, but that doesn't mean I can't be conscious and try to stop it.

And like I said, just because there are worse things to say, doesn't mean we shouldn't stop the things that are less worse.

"True minorities"? A minority is a small amount, regardless of whether it's hated so openly or not. Maybe people these days are sensitive enough not to call the mentally handicapped stupid to their face, but we'll still use the word retarded taken from the words mentally retarded and compare it to the kind of stupidity people can control, or just wrongness and badness in general, behind their backs.

And of course people in make fun of each other when their friends, and they know it's fun. It's when you don't really know the people that it's offensive to them.

Plus, it's been an accepted word for a lot longer than "gay" as an insult has. I've heard people using the word as far back as the early 1990's. When I was younger than 10.

I didn't get this. Did you mean "gay" has been accepted as an insult longer than "retarded" has?

[Super Aurora]

I don't care if you call me overly sensitive, I'm still going to try to stop people from doing something wrong they know is wrong (or could do wrong), even if you don't think it's "that wrong". It's similar to how we call girls and boys "guys" and we call boys "guys" but girls are only called girls. There's something discriminating in the tiniest bit of langauge. If we can't stop the small stuff how will we stop the big stuff? The big stuff is more obvious to get rid of. A while ago, we wondered what was wrong with keeping women only as housekeepers. I mean, it's not like men were beating women all the time. But yea, we gotta get to the "less worse" stuff, too.

You are naive if you think you'll accomplish anything by this.

It always will happen whether you like it or not. That's reality.

[Chernabog_Rocks]

I don't care if you call me overly sensitive, I'm still going to try to stop people from doing something wrong they know is wrong (or could do wrong), even if you don't think it's "that wrong". It's similar to how we call girls and boys "guys" and we call boys "guys" but girls are only called girls. There's something discriminating in the tiniest bit of langauge. If we can't stop the small stuff how will we stop the big stuff? The big stuff is more obvious to get rid of. A while ago, we wondered what was wrong with keeping women only as housekeepers. I mean, it's not like men were beating women all the time. But yea, we gotta get to the "less worse" stuff, too.

You are naive if you think you'll accomplish anything by this.

It always will happen whether you like it or not. That's reality.

As a wise emperor from a certain movie once said:

"A single grain of rice can tip the scales"

I think that's the problem, is everybody thinks "I"m one person I won't make a difference" so because of that type of thinking nothing does get accomplished. Personally, I never use retarded or gay, I see no point in using them in that type of way. My friend is notorious for using them though, I managed to stop that, it is actually possible Super Aurora you just seem to be thinking on a larger scale than Duster is I think. If he only managed to change the way people use those words in his group of friends, that's a much larger start than sitting there doing nothing.

[Super Aurora]

I never said it's impossible. But chances of actually accomplishing such thing is rare and far. Especially in this world and age.

[Siren]

Think globally, act locally.

Trying to change your friends' attitudes is one thing. Trying to change someone else's attitude from a thousand miles away over a computer is completely another.

Besides, if people put THIS much effort into changing REAL PROBLEMS, the world would be better. Its all much ado about nothing as far as I am concerned.

[Prudence]

Its all much ado about nothing as far as I am concerned.

I think the majority of this page was much ado about nothing. People on opposing sides have said things that are right and things that were naive or harsh, sometimes being naive or harsh and also in the right. I can't see what the point of the arguments were, though.

[Lazario]

I'm really sorry to ruin everyone's day with this, but there is a very serious problem that YOU CAN ALL HELP ME WITH!

If you have an account on YouTube, I really need your help in Flagging a certain YouTuber. He is making DISGUSTING videos about other YouTube Vloggers, attacking them for their weight and filling the video with DOZENS of homophobic, incestual, misogynistic, and sexually offensive slurs.

Here is where you can find his sickening Videos:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kev ... iew=videos

And the last 2 in particular ("Kev Jumba" and "Coolduder") need to be Flagged right now. I flagged this guy about 2 weeks ago and almost nothing is being done about him.

People like this on YouTube need to know that this kind of thing cannot be tolerated. The last thing we need is for any more people like this filthy piece of human trash to crop up doing the same thing.

[Siren]

I think the problem is....YouTube doesn't realize that this guy stole other people's videos and put the voice over them. The owners of the original videos need to make copyright claims against him to light a fire under YT's ass.

[drfsupercenter]

Yeah, I'm messing with their "report abuse" form but it keeps saying the people being harassed need to report it.

Of course, I could just check that bubble and be like "just kidding, I'm not the one he's harassing... while you're here, though, check this guy out"

I might, too, if I can't find a way around the system soon.

[jeremy88]

Wow, they seriousley need to do something productive, probably just some person angry with life and can't find any other way to vent...What cracks me up though is when they say this on their profile: "HAHAHA ,IF YOU **** WITH ME OR LEAVE ME A HATE COMMENT PREPARE FOR AN ULTIMATE ASS WHOOPING!" whats he/she gunna do send a hate mail to everyone who leaves him a hate comment? Some ass whooping...

Anyways I flagged both of of those videos.

[Lazario]

Thank you. I mean, we really can't rely on YouTube to police themselves (and with all the DISNEY related stuff up on their site right now, I'm not sure I'd want them to).

[pap64]

Hah, a funny discussion about the use of the word "retard" in jokes. Is there anything the internet can't offer?