Movies on TV

[Escapay]

Thanks, Laz & Scaps! I'm still kind of confused- I've just never ever heard of anything like that before. I've seen "Sixteen Candles" and "The Breakfast Club" on TV only- so, if I bought the DVDs of these films, they would be missing some footage that I saw on TV, but they would include footage that I haven't seen?

The Breakfast Club DVD doesn't have the extended sneaking around the halls scene that the TV version has. Instead it's the original pot smoking scene.

Also, there was the scene where Claire asks the principal if he can break a $50 bill.

For Sixteen Candles, there's a scene in the cafeteria where Samantha makes her infamous "I don't want him to know I eat!" declaration.

I wish Universal would give their John Hughes films the SE treatment (Lord knows they've re-released them enough times!). It'd be especially interesting to see all three versions of The Breakfast Club: The 150-minute Director's Cut on one disc, and the Theatrical and Television Cuts on another (via seamless branching), with extras and stuff. Sixteen Candles also has a really long director's cut which I'd love to see as well.

Scaps

[blackcauldron85]

Thanks, Flanger-Hanger & Scaps! That's a good idea, Scaps- releasing the different versions of these movies...!

[Lazario]

I wish Universal would give their John Hughes films the SE treatment (Lord knows they've re-released them enough times!). It'd be especially interesting to see all three versions of The Breakfast Club: The 150-minute Director's Cut on one disc, and the Theatrical and Television Cuts on another (via seamless branching), with extras and stuff. Sixteen Candles also has a really long director's cut which I'd love to see as well.

Great idea. Me- I'd settle for someone just shooting the people who run Universal. But your idea has a much better ring to it.

[Big Disney Fan]

But believe it or not, there may be some movies shown on TV that don't have a DVD release yet. What then?

And furthermore, how come they never really show any of the Class-A Disney movies (i.e., Snow White, Pinocchio, etc.) on TV anymore?

[blackcauldron85]

And furthermore, how come they never really show any of the Class-A Disney movies (i.e., Snow White, Pinocchio, etc.) on TV anymore?

I assume because, when Disney rereleases the movies on DVD, people will be more likely to buy the DVD if they think to themselves, "Hey, I haven't seen that movie in years! I'll buy the DVD!"

[Escapay]

Thanks, Flanger-Hanger & Scaps! That's a good idea, Scaps- releasing the different versions of these movies...!

No problem, and I'm glad you like the idea. Universal is so...lackluster with many of their catalogue titles that sometimes I seriously do consider Laz's suggestion to just shoot them and get some competent people to work on the DVDs.

there may be some movies shown on TV that don't have a DVD release yet. What then?

Schedule your life around it so that you can watch it. That or set the VCR to record it. There are quite a few telemovies that I taped onto VHS since they have never had a home video (VHS or DVD) release. There's a really good movie (Miracle Run) with Mary Louise-Parker, Aidan Quinn, and Zac Efron that has yet to appear on DVD (surprising, given the Ef's popularity). It's one of the few I don't have on VHS somewhere (*kicking myself*), but Lifetime or Lifetime Movie Network reruns it every several months.

And furthermore, how come they never really show any of the Class-A Disney movies (i.e., Snow White, Pinocchio, etc.) on TV anymore?

In its 70+ year history, Snow White is known for never having been aired on television. It's pretty much an unwritten rule that certain Disney Animated Classics do not get broadcast on television. Don't ask me why, I honestly don't know the full reason, but basically there are some films that Disney feels should only be "event" films that come out either in theatres or in a home video release. And no, I don't have a list of what all the films are, I just know that Snow White is one of them.

Scaps

[Big Disney Fan]

Schedule your life around it so that you can watch it. That or set the VCR to record it. There are quite a few telemovies that I taped onto VHS since they have never had a home video (VHS or DVD) release. There's a really good movie (Miracle Run) with Mary Louise-Parker, Aidan Quinn, and Zac Efron that has yet to appear on DVD (surprising, given the Ef's popularity). It's one of the few I don't have on VHS somewhere (*kicking myself*), but Lifetime or Lifetime Movie Network reruns it every several months.

I wasn't talking about movies that originated on TV, I was talking about full-blown movies that don't have a DVD release yet. And what's more, I've been trying to avoid the VCR. It's not so much because of DVD as just I can't trust myself to use it properly; it may accidentally destroy a VHS tape therein. I've already done that once recently (and got punished for it as a result), so I've just decided to try and avoid VCRs if I can help it.

[dvdjunkie]

Hey Big Disney Fan, how about listing some of the movies you have seen on TV that don't have a DVD release. Most of the theatrical movies that are shown on commercial television do have DVD releases.

Do you not have Cable or Satellite television in your home. You should be watching the movies on HBO or one of the premium channels instead of a commercial channel.

Just like your complaint about music being edited, you will have to put up with editing of movies on commercial television as long as there is the need to watch commercial TV.

I don't think I have watched a movie on commercial television in the past 20 years. We have Cox Digital Cable, and we also have On Demand where we have the choice of 1,000's of movie to watch, Original Aspect Ratio, and commercial free.

You also should watch more DVD's to enjoy the movies they way they were meant to be seen.

[Big Disney Fan]

Hey Big Disney Fan, how about listing some of the movies you have seen on TV that don't have a DVD release. Most of the theatrical movies that are shown on commercial television do have DVD releases.

Well, I can't think of any movies off the top of my head, mostly TV shows, and not all TV shows have DVD releases. Most do, but some don't.

Do you not have Cable or Satellite television in your home. You should be watching the movies on HBO or one of the premium channels instead of a commercial channel.

Yes, I do have cable and for a time, I believe we had digital cable in our home... for a week or so. During that time, we had access to HBO and TCM, but now they've taken those rights away for some mysterious reason (probably failed to pay for it). So now, we are without premium channels.

Just like your complaint about music being edited, you will have to put up with editing of movies on commercial television as long as there is the need to watch commercial TV.

It's not like I actually go hunting through the TV schedules trying to find the movie in question to watch, but when it comes on by chance, I figure "What the heck?"

I don't think I have watched a movie on commercial television in the past 20 years. We have Cox Digital Cable, and we also have On Demand where we have the choice of 1,000's of movie to watch, Original Aspect Ratio, and commercial free.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being rude, but since when has Cox been around for 20 years? Ten years maybe, but certainly not 20. Also, don't you have to pay for On Demand? I have no idea how that works, as I have never used it before. And I'm sure you'd have to pay a pretty steep price for it.

You also should watch more DVD's to enjoy the movies they way they were meant to be seen.

Believe it or not, some DVDs (like those early ones from Disney) have been edited, too. And I fear that the upcoming DVD release of "101 Dalmatians" will be severely edited to remove all traces of Cruella smoking, even if she is an antagonist, in keeping with Disney's recent anti-smoking plans (I'm all for a healthier environment, but not at the expense of art). And let's not forget that they edited out the black centaurette from the "uncensored" DVD release of Fantasia and that they clumsily edited Donald's dialogue in Clock Cleaners out of fear he said that four-letter word that started with the letter F and rhymed with "duck", when we know only too well that he did not swear once.

Okay, let me ask you this: if you have a DVD release of, say, Chicago in your possession, and that movie is going to be airing on TV, what would you do?

[dvdjunkie]

Big Disney Fan wrote:

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being rude, but since when has Cox been around for 20 years? Ten years maybe, but certainly not 20. Also, don't you have to pay for On Demand? I have no idea how that works, as I have never used it before. And I'm sure you'd have to pay a pretty steep price for it.

Quite the contrary. Cox has been in business for over 25 years, and has in the last 10 years stepped to the front with their High Speed Internet and Telephone Service to go along with their Digital Cable Service. If you subscribe to any one of their premium channel tiers, you get On Demand for free. Of course in the On Demand menus, there are things you might have to pay a little extra for = "WWE 24/7" for example is $14.95 a month.

I think you are being a little nit-picky about some of the Disney 'edits' over the past years. I agree that they should be left alone, that "Fantasia" should be released with no edits, and I totally agree with things like Pecos Bill in "Melody Time" should never have been 'cleaned' up. I have seen the Blu-Ray version of "101 Dalmations" and Cruella is smoking her brains out in this one.................they have left her character in tact. Thank goodness for that.

You brought up a good point in "Clock Cleaners"........I had totally forgotten about that one. But it doesn't stop me from enjoying the short.

If I have a choice of watching a movie on commercial television or DVD, more than likely it would be DVD. Especially if the movie is "Chicago", I want the music and motion all on my large 15' projection screen in my Home Theater.

You need to specify which you are watching that you are complaining about. Television show re-runs, or movies. Television shows are always edited after their initial run on a network. USA is famous for taking a good television series, like "JAG" and then editing from 90 seconds to 2-minutes out of an episode to allow for commercials. Or a better example is "Walker, Texas Ranger", where they run the credits from the previous show 'side-by-side' with the opening of the next show to conserve time for more commercials. I, also hate that, but since both "JAG" and "Walker" are being released on DVD, I will wait for each season and watch them as they originally aired.

[blackcauldron85]

I have seen the Blu-Ray version of "101 Dalmations" and Cruella is smoking her brains out in this one.................they have left her character in tact. Thank goodness for that.

Yay!!! I'm by no means an advocate for smoking, but I'm glad that Cruella is still smoking after all these years! How did you already see the Blu-ray version of "101 Dalmatians", Bill?!?!? (If you don't mind saying, that is...)

[dvdjunkie]

My son is a manager of a Best Buy................and they got a bunch of early screeners for January and February and "101 Dalmations" was among them.

[Escapay]

Yay!!! I'm by no means an advocate for smoking, but I'm glad that Cruella is still smoking after all these years! How did you already see the Blu-Ray version of "101 Dalmatians", Bill?!?!? (If you don't mind saying, that is...)

My son is a manager of a Best Buy................and they got a bunch of early screeners for January and February and "101 Dalmations" was among them.

And it was on Blu-Ray??? I guess Disney's changed their mind about which Platinum will be the first on Blu-Ray..sorry Sleeping Beauty!

Well, I can't think of any movies off the top of my head, mostly TV shows, and not all TV shows have DVD releases. Most do, but some don't.

But...you started this thread to discuss movies on TV...not TV Shows on TV.

It's not like I actually go hunting through the TV schedules trying to find the movie in question to watch,

Does ANYONE actually do that anymore?

but when it comes on by chance, I figure "What the heck?"

When it comes on by chance and you figure "What the heck?" it's always best to follow it up with "Wait, I have the DVD, I'll just get that so I don't have to worry about commercials and edits!". Hence, buy more DVDs = watch less commercials.

Also, don't you have to pay for On Demand?

Yes.

I have no idea how that works, as I have never used it before.

It's heavenly.

And I'm sure you'd have to pay a pretty steep price for it.

Only if you subscribe blindly and not look for the good deals.

And I fear that the upcoming DVD release of "101 Dalmatians" will be severely edited to remove all traces of Cruella smoking, even if she is an antagonist, in keeping with Disney's recent anti-smoking plans

Disney has continually stated that their anti-smoking plans applies to new and future films, and they will leave the smoking intact in their previous films (Saludos Amigos and Make Mine Music hypocritically excepted...).

And Bill has already said that Cruella's smoking up a storm, so you don't have to worry about that.

that they clumsily edited Donald's dialogue in Clock Cleaners out of fear he said that four-letter word that started with the letter F and rhymed with "duck", when we know only too well that he did not swear once.

Amazingly, it's intact in Alice in Wonderland's "One Hour in Wonderland feature on the bonus disc, but edited everywhere else.

Okay, let me ask you this: if you have a DVD release of, say, Chicago in your possession, and that movie is going to be airing on TV, what would you do?

Well, Chicago isn't that great a film to begin with so I'd probably change the channel.

Scaps

[Big Disney Fan]

Well, I can't think of any movies off the top of my head, mostly TV shows, and not all TV shows have DVD releases. Most do, but some don't.

But...you started this thread to discuss movies on TV...not TV Shows on TV.

Okay, well, here's a movie for which there was a TV airing, but not a DVD airing: "James and the Giant Peach". At least I don't remember seeing a DVD before.

but when it comes on by chance, I figure "What the heck?"

When it comes on by chance and you figure "What the heck?" it's always best to follow it up with "Wait, I have the DVD, I'll just get that so I don't have to worry about commercials and edits!". Hence, buy more DVDs = watch less commercials.

But to buy more DVDs would practically require you to be made of money, don't you think? I mean, buy more DVDs = watch less commercials + become more broke.

Okay, let me ask you this: if you have a DVD release of, say, Chicago in your possession, and that movie is going to be airing on TV, what would you do?

Well, Chicago isn't that great a film to begin with so I'd probably change the channel.

Scaps

That was just an example, something off the top of my head.

[dvdjunkie]

"James and the Giant Peach" is available on DVD.

Sorry for the misleading on the Blu-Ray for "101 Dalmations". It was the Platinum Edition (2-Disc). Sorry about that, I got carried away without reading my post.

On Demand is free with most Digital Cable Subscription packages. With Cox you only have to subscribe to one premium channel to get the whole On Demand package. They even have a "movies in widescreen" section, and a "movies in Hi-Def" section and every kid show known to exist at this current time on television regardless of the quality of entertainment.

On Demand has what they call the Free Zone, and they offer thousands of movies and television shows that you can record for free. Or you can sit back and enjoy as many times as you want in their available period, which is usually six weeks.

Current movies, new to DVD, can be watched for the low price of $3.95 each for a 24-hour period, so you can watch it over and over. You can fast forward to your favorite parts or skip your boring parts. It is just like having your own DVD.

Shop around for your movies. Pawn shops and Used DVD stores are usually plentiful in the larger cities. While Wichita is only about 450,00 strong in population, we still have over 40 pawn shops, and over 20 used dvd stores. So shopping for previously viewed movies is a lot of fun, and you can usually score some great titles for less than $5.

[Big Disney Fan]

Shop around for your movies. Pawn shops and Used DVD stores are usually plentiful in the larger cities. While Wichita is only about 450,00 strong in population, we still have over 40 pawn shops, and over 20 used dvd stores. So shopping for previously viewed movies is a lot of fun, and you can usually score some great titles for less than $5.

Well, whenever possible, I try to avoid getting used DVDs, because they may sometimes be defective. Before getting the Masterpiece Edition of Alice In Wonderland, for example, I had a used version of the GC version, which was always acting so erratically that I never watched it. When the ME release came out, I quickly got rid of the old DVD. So I'm trying to be wary of used DVDs.

[Big Disney Fan]

I think you are being a little nit-picky about some of the Disney 'edits' over the past years. I agree that they should be left alone, that "Fantasia" should be released with no edits, and I totally agree with things like Pecos Bill in "Melody Time" should never have been 'cleaned' up. I have seen the Blu-Ray version of "101 Dalmations" and Cruella is smoking her brains out in this one.................they have left her character in tact. Thank goodness for that.

You brought up a good point in "Clock Cleaners"........I had totally forgotten about that one. But it doesn't stop me from enjoying the short.

But if you agree with the points I made, how does that make me "a little nit-picky"?

[Big Disney Fan]

You know another thing that really bugs me about movies on TV? They sometimes show in previews of the movie in question some footage not actually seen in the movie. A prime example of this example of hypocrisy/irony is "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory". When they showed the movie on ABC Family, they include at least one piece of footage of the boat cruise, yet in the actual movie, it's nowhere to be seen; it's entirely deleted!

How can they be so hypocritical, I ask you?

[Escapay]

You know another thing that really bugs me about movies on TV? They sometimes show in previews of the movie in question some footage not actually seen in the movie. A prime example of this example of hypocrisy/irony is "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory". When they showed the movie on ABC Family, they include at least one piece of footage of the boat cruise, yet in the actual movie, it's nowhere to be seen; it's entirely deleted!

How can they be so hypocritical, I ask you?

Sometimes they cut out scenes for either timing purposes or content. I'm pretty sure it's been discussed in this thread already.

As to why it shows up in the previews and tv spots but not in the movie itself, that's probably just stupidity on the ABC Family TV Spot editor's part.

And to address a couple things from the older portions of this thread...

But to buy more DVDs would practically require you to be made of money, don't you think? I mean, buy more DVDs = watch less commercials + become more broke.

Budget Your Money Properly + Buy More DVDs = Watch Less Commercials + Not As Broke As You'd Think...

I'm not saying to buy like...10 DVDs a day for the rest of your life. Just know what DVDs you want to buy, and prioritize which ones you'd want over others, while always taking into account how much you want to spend on DVDs in the first place. If you don't have enough for a particular title, then hold out awhile until you do. Sometimes you have to sacrifice the convenience of having some movies at your leisure for the necessity of having money to buy food/gas/utilities/etc.

Well, whenever possible, I try to avoid getting used DVDs, because they may sometimes be defective. Before getting the Masterpiece Edition of Alice In Wonderland, for example, I had a used version of the GC version, which was always acting so erratically that I never watched it. When the ME release came out, I quickly got rid of the old DVD. So I'm trying to be wary of used DVDs.

Go to reputable DVD stores such as MovieStop or FYE. They have the best (and in my experiences, hardly-ever-to-never scratched) DVDs. And if they end up defective, the stores will usually let you exchange or return it. Plus, MovieStop makes sure to inspect and clean any used titles they get before putting it on the shelves.

Albert

[Big Disney Fan]

Sometimes they cut out scenes for either timing purposes or content. I'm pretty sure it's been discussed in this thread already.

I know it's been discussed, but I don't think it has been mentioned in this context yet. I mean, to edit a movie on TV is bad enough, but if they show a bit of footage in a preview, then they should show it in the actual movie, that's all I'm saying.

As to why it shows up in the previews and tv spots but not in the movie itself, that's probably just stupidity on the ABC Family TV Spot editor's part.

You're right, it probably is stupidity, but still...

I'm not saying to buy like...10 DVDs a day for the rest of your life. Just know what DVDs you want to buy, and prioritize which ones you'd want over others, while always taking into account how much you want to spend on DVDs in the first place. If you don't have enough for a particular title, then hold out awhile until you do. Sometimes you have to sacrifice the convenience of having some movies at your leisure for the necessity of having money to buy food/gas/utilities/etc.

Okay on all accounts, but let's not forget, especially in the case of Disney animated movies, the limited amount of time in which a movie is available (more specifically, when it goes back into what Disney calls "the vault").