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Disney-Fan wrote:I think they provided a pretty good explination for the lack of Disney-ism lately. All you need to do is read a few of the above posts.
In my defense, my new thread was just moved in to this thread. I originally posted it in the General Discussion section, and I was completely unaware that this topic already existed. So now I have read the above posts, thanks.

I still stand by my opinion, though. Especially considering the outdated info on some of the pages (TV shows being number one in my mind), I think there is plenty of opportunities to keep focusing on Disney. I hold out hope that things will turn around once the other site is spun off.
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Speaking of TV, any plans to review Lost: Season 2 before the third season hits the market?
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Disney-Fan wrote:Speaking of TV, any plans to review Lost: Season 2 before the third season hits the market?

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blackcauldron85 wrote:
Loomis wrote: The plethora of ads also detract from the 'professional' aspects of the site.
Without the ads, though, the site wouldn't get as much funding, and the users may have to pay. I wouldn't mind paying a small fee to use UD, since I love the site, but, without the ads, we'd probably have to.
Granted, and I know the reason why all these things are happening, but there are just so many ads on the front page coupled with the wall of text. So I also understand why people find it slightly frustrating when trying to find content.
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Whilst I preferably would like to see UD be a Disney-orientated site (or at least focussed on Buena Vista product), the reasons given for it not completely being so (due to BVHE having run out of steam) seem valid enough. I do believe that some of the films being reviewed are perhaps not very Disney-ish enough to warrant coverage on this site though. Musicals are fine, as are well-made family films, but the likes of Norbit and Shooter don't seem suitable (in my opinion, anyway) for this site. And also, I wouldn't review animated films not associated with Disney, as it may cause confusion.

I also have to say that the forum could be a bit better in terms of discussion, as much of it does seem to be trivial fluff. Stuff like the "Recast Disney Movies with UD users" thread (which I started), have kinda run their course, yet still get posted in.
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I started this thread and contributed many thoughts...then I said I was done because I was begining to repeat myself, and I seemed to have little support. Now there are a few others who seem to share my points of view in some ways, and for that I am grateful. I knew I couldn't be completely alone in my views.

I would like to reiterate that it is not so much the content that I find the problem but rather the layout of the main page and the lack of ease I find browsing the front page for items of interest to me. It is one giant hodge-podge of information, and the non-Disney entries just makes it all the more random and confusing. I hope the new site is launched soon so that there can be some semblance of order. Combining Disney information with all other random information is simply too much and is very discouraging to view when it should be enticing.
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Wonderlicious wrote:I also have to say that the forum could be a bit better in terms of discussion, as much of it does seem to be trivial fluff. Stuff like the "Recast Disney Movies with UD users" thread (which I started), have kinda run their course, yet still get posted in.
I have to agree with you. I found lately that the topics on the forum have been really boring and nothing particularly interesting to talk about. And anything that is remotely interesting or sparks conversation seems to end in a fight.
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Anthony wrote:
Wonderlicious wrote:I also have to say that the forum could be a bit better in terms of discussion, as much of it does seem to be trivial fluff. Stuff like the "Recast Disney Movies with UD users" thread (which I started), have kinda run their course, yet still get posted in.
I have to agree with you. I found lately that the topics on the forum have been really boring and nothing particularly interesting to talk about. And anything that is remotely interesting or sparks conversation seems to end in a fight.
I share both of your sentiments on this too. I think just a small handful of elements -- some of them contributing odd silliness, some of them contributing negativity -- have done a lot of harm to the forum lately. This place was a thriving hotbed of intelligent discussions and good fun in the not-all-that-distant past. I fear that a lot of our valuable regular members have fled as a result of the recent problems. I think we've recently become pretty aware of this and are taking steps towards fixing problems. There are still a lot awesome people on this forum and some good discussion to be found. As two of UD's VIPs, I hope you guys can join myself and others in finding inspiration for some quality forum activity again.

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Anthony wrote: I have to agree with you. I found lately that the topics on the forum have been really boring and nothing particularly interesting to talk about. And anything that is remotely interesting or sparks conversation seems to end in a fight.
I share both of your sentiments on this too. I think just a small handful of elements -- some of them contributing odd silliness, some of them contributing negativity -- have done a lot of harm to the forum lately. This place was a thriving hotbed of intelligent discussions and good fun in the not-all-that-distant past. I fear that a lot of our valuable regular members have fled as a result of the recent problems. I think we've recently become pretty aware of this and are taking steps towards fixing problems. There are still a lot awesome people on this forum and some good discussion to be found. As two of UD's VIPs, I hope you guys can join myself and others in finding inspiration for some quality forum activity again.
Well said Aaron.

With all that being said, I still love this site and most of the people on here. I've tried other Disney and non-Disney forums in the past and none of them have the great and nice people that UD has. The majority of these friendly members is what keeps me coming back.
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While I don't post on the boards as much as I used to, I've visited the main site on almost a daily basis ever since I discovered it back in 2004. I agree that Disney's really lost the enthusiasm they once had for DVD and the potential it has, and with their release catalog getting smaller and much less interesting, I'm in favor of coverage on releases from other studios, and I applaud Luke and the others involved for not just calling the site quits and moving on. I know that the site's main page is more confusing and crowded than ever, but I realise that it's only a temporary inconvenience until DVDizzy is launched, so it won't kill any of us to be patient for a little while.

There's going to be two sites now, correct? From what I understand, once the sister site is up and running, the reviews that cover non-Disney-and-Buena-Vista titles will be moved there and everything will be back to normal for UD, so it's best to just be patient and wait until the team can get everything sorted out; we know they will. If anything, I think coverage of other studios' releases will only improve the situation at hand, and it might get the forums and UD out of the current slump it's in. An extra site could bring in twice as many visitors (some of whom might not have visited the site before because of the Disney-only coverage), and it could help more people get to know about UD. The reviews and interviews that UD offers are much more thorough and detailed than most other reviews found on the internet, and I think the site deserves just as much attention, if not more, than less-impressive sites like DVD Talk and IGN DVD get.

I'm very excited to see how DVDizzy turns out, and I hope the team enjoys doing it, as long as they don't overwork themselves. Now that other studios are being covered, there's a lot of extra DVDs out there, and there's only a handful of reviewers for UD. As long as they don't kill themselves from work, and as long as Disney news and reviews remain the main focus of the team (which I'm sure it will), I see no problem with a sister site that covers other titles. In fact, after the awesome Fantastic Four: Extended Edition review (Which persuaded me to buy the DVD, by the way.), I'm excited to see what can come from a new site.
Loomis wrote:However, with all due respect to the people working hard on the site, the front page looks like a bit of a dog's breakfast at the moment. Unfortunately, the current format doesn't readily lend itself to making it "very easy to scroll past something that doesn't interest" us, as the only think separating the 'wall of text' is a few dates. The plethora of ads also detract from the 'professional' aspects of the site. Don't take this as a criticism, as the quality of the content is just as high. My only gripe IS the front page, and not the actual content.
I don't want to offend anybody by saying this, but I agree with Loomis here. I think the sub-pages, like the Animated Classics page and everything else, are very well organized and easy to navigate through, but the front page just kind of has everything spread around. I've been here long enough to know where everything is, so the site's design doesn't bother me too much, but I do think a makeover of the main page would make the site look much more professional and easier to navagate.

As for the forums, I have noticed a decrease in debates that don't start fights and intelligent discussions as a whole, but I still think we have better discussions and members than any other Disney site out there right now. I think the lack of talk can probably be blamed on Disney and Buena Vista not really giving us anything to talk about. Slipcovers, Playhouse Disney DVDs, and "How many movies do you have?" threads can only be fun for so long.
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Throwing in my two cents...

I personally am enjoying the non-Disney material that the site is getting. Partly because it's so hard to find good DVD reviews (that actually concentrate on the movie and DVD at hand, and not the reviewer's opinion of the movie, or how many names and movie factoids they can drop within a review), and I'm glad that UD offers great meat-and-potatoes reviews. The best examples IMO (and with one already brought up in this thread) are the Fantastic Four DVD review and what I've read so far for the Esther Williams Collection review. Expanding to non-Disney material ensures that I can get the UD quality of reviews on movies besides Disney. As far as I've seen, the expansion hasn't deterred the quality of reviews for Disney titles, mainly because the Disney titles that have come out since May haven't exactly been that great to begin with (The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh excepted). Honestly, for anyone that's complaining about the lack of Disney material, would you rather have five more "Hannah Montana" and "That's So Raven" reviews and some "Cheetah Girls" CDs thrown in? Feel like reading about "High School Musical: The Triple-Dip-Just-Because-We-Want-To-Ensure-Its-Popularity Edition"?

Luke himself pointed out the reviewing of older titles in the Spring (during an unnaturally long lull between Disney releases), and I enjoyed those immensely (especially Tuck Everlasting and The Straight Story), as it not only provided a review for the movie, but helped re-introduce any owners of those titles to the film again. I remember saying in my review feedback for Tuck that after I read his review I went and watched my DVD of it, as I hadn't watched it in a year.

I'm sorry if people feel that UD is losing some of the "Disney" that makes it UD, but it's hardly the fault of Luke and us reviewers. I mean, in 2003-2005, we had countless news items and reviews for Disney materials because there was some conscious effort from Buena Vista to actually have Disney material pushed out onto the market. Granted, most of the time we had lamentations about P&S live action titles, but we also had regular releases of animated movies, and every Fall/Winter became very busy times for UD thanks largely to the Fall Platinum and the Treasures. Since 2006, it seems like Buena Vista is mostly dormant between the Spring and Fall Platinum, as anything released from March to October feels like "lesser" films and/or TV shows. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for June releases like The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: Friendship Edition and Dumbo: Big Top Edition, as it helps provide consumers with quality titles re-introduced to store shelves. But when the majority of new releases in the Spring and Summer are just Disney Channel fare, Baby Einsteins, or not-so-well-received movies, there's not much that even UD can do to make it feel like a glamourous title or an important DVD to add to the collection.

If there's one way I'd like to see on the site, it's probably the return (or the revamping) of Disney DIScussions. There were only about 4 articles or so, but the idea can be expanded to discuss more than just "give this movie a chance" or "why I personally don't like this movie". After all, we've seen many a thread on UD that go deep into discussion of things like animation restoration, the merits of being a Princess, and which "Golden Age" was the best. Why not have some UltimateDisney.com articles that thoroughly examine these topics along with other things? Like, let's say that Aaron Wallace will write an article about "Learning from Disney Films How to Improve Your Social Life", while Kelvin Cedeno writes an article like "Disney and Religion: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly", and I personally wouldn't mind writing "The Little Mermaid: Everything That Is Wrong With This Film". It would bring more to UD besides listings and reviews of Disney DVD. It'd be a great way to bring BACK those in-depth discussions of the forum's glory days, and introduce it to many of our new posters.

Another "change" I'd like to see, but I'm not scrambling for, would be re-reviews of some titles, a sort of "UD Review 2.0". Not just to provide more information (compare an early UD review like Snow Dogs to a later UD review like Bridge to Terabithia), but to provide another perspective. For example, we all know how totally awesome Doctor Gulley and the Dalmatians of Doom is, but it'd be interesting to read an opposing view of the film, as a way to provide a more well-rounded look at Doctor Gulley. Some great examples that already exist on the site are the different reviews for the Muppet films (since they were re-released), and for High School Musical (with both its releases). I wouldn't mind seeing UD go back to some of the oldest reviews they had and re-examining them from another perspective.

Of course, I wouldn't expect Disney DIScussions or Review 2.0 to return anytime soon, as Izzy* is still taking some time to get launched, and Luke already does enough for the site as is.

Still, at the end of the day, I always enjoy coming to UD because of the community (however fluffy it has become) and because of the wealth of information that we do have here. I mean, even though I have most of the animated classics on DVD, and a nice sizable amount of live-action and other animated titles, I still love perusing through UD's reviews because they're that good.

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I think the problem with the lack of discussion stems from all of the fluff threads that should really be in the polls and games section rather than in the general discussion or off topic. I mean, recasting movies, what food did you just eat, what dvd did you just buy, what cd did you just buy, what show did you just watch... those aren't really topics for "discussion".

The constant posting in those threads pretty much keeps them on the front page and ensures that actual posts that might spark some real discussion will get buried somewhere else. I mean, as interesting as it is to see how many movies someone owns it really isn't a point of discussion..maybe we should start a "statement forum" lol..

In all honesty, maybe the general discussion and off topic forums should be sub-divided, or things should be restructured in general. Especially now that this site isn't only for Disney DVDs general discussion could technically include stuff about ANY DVD...
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Been gone for the past few days, but here's my 2 cents of the debacle of the forum...

I don't think you can blame Disney's "schedule of releases" at all. Sure, having mulitiple Playhouse Disney/Disney Channel releases and fairly pointless rereleases like Robin Hood don't help create strong discussion, but I personally believe that the reason this forum is in such a mess is one simple reason not directly suggested yet: most of the current forum members here are complete idiots.

Now I'm certainly not referring to the excellent moderators here, nor am I referring to anyone who has contributed to this thread so far(everyone who has posted here so far has made genuine discussion in the past and truely love Disney enough to discuss and contribute to this forum and make it great). But there are a handful of morons(for the sake of this forum though, won't name names) who've ruined the nice litte community hear.

For one, those "Little Mermaid humpers" as I refer to them, are probably what bug me the most. They not only have horrible taste in movies(I can think of at least 100 Disney movie that "blow this movie out of the water") but they don't even bother to discuss this divine film. :roll: Now in the past, I have obviously been a cruel critic of this movie, having put my 2 cents on it(a boring and terribly-developed plot, a main character you wouldn't mind frying with chips, a supporting cast you wouldn't mind to have as side-dishes, a bland human cast, an overrated history, unimpessive character animation... these are just the ones of the top of my head, there are enough for me to write severeal encyclopedias to explain why this movie's so flawed) but no one ever has had a "I respectfully disagree" arguement, they just say something like, "OMG!!KJ! Littl' Areil greatets 2D movie EVER!!?@@$# BETTER THAN lal 3D animation crap" or "have you not ever used a Little Mermaid slipcover yet?" And even today, the madness continues.

Now you might just say "Oh well, they're excited about a Platinum Edition, what's so bad about that?" Sorry, it has gone beyond that point. There were plenty of discussion threads that deserved far more greater posts than these stupid threads. Looks at the discussion for "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" Now, if you were to multiply each member by 100 and add em up, I believe you wouldn't have near an awesome character as Captain Jack Sparrow, (or even Mr. Cotton, Mr. Gibbs or anyone of the minor crew for that matter). But where are IT'S MUCH MORE DESERVED DISCUSSION? Oh yeah, people are now discussing how the TLM screenplay compares to earlier drafts. :roll: :roll:

Where are the Jungle Book's discussion. It has 17 pages so far. Now on this date The Little Mermaid had 30 threads with stupid posts like "Look, I made screencaps, I'm a huge fan" or "Look I can make a cover like Disney with a few adjustments" or "OMG!!!?!! Only three more months until going to bed will be so much more fun!!!:" We don't have hardly ANY discussion for The Jungle Book when it's like an 1000000000 times better film, especially animation wise. Loads of great character-acting. It inspired many of the most famous animators working today(Brad Bird and Andreas Deja). Tell me this... who has TLM inspired as animators(besides TLM humpers who probably can scribble drawings on their free time as well)?

Also, what about Pixar's Cars discussion. Now in the past, I know I've given this film a hard time saying stuff like "If this weren't Pixar, it'd be recieveing 'Rotten' scores on Rotten Tomatoes" or "Just because it isn't 2-Disc, doesn't make it the end of the world" but when all that is put aside, it's really a fantastic film. The animation is terrific(arguably the best CG-wise), the soundtrack rocks and I dug it's nostalgia messages and Route-66 back-story, and on top of that, an AWESOME voice-cast. WAAAAY more than I can possibly say for TLM. Yet, even this discussion is not as big as discussion like "If Ariel's sisters had their own slipcovers, would you buy them?"

And guess what... that's just GENERAL DISCUSSION!!! I've not even touched the madness in the off-topic section. There are pointless ramblings in that forum as well(such as the thread Wondy pointed out). Not to mention stupid political threads starting since that stupid Rosie O'Donnell thread(the one where she "shocks the nation") there have been tons of those stupid threads, and I call them stupid because these liberal pieces scum who's heads are full of mush and never EVER even come close to the truth, think they know everything and post the most ignorant and flat out stupid posts as if they just removed their head from a microwave. And those are sadly popular too. Gone are the days where the off-topic was just a fun forum we discusses intelligent conversations that didn't involve Disney(sadly a lot of fools here hate Disney, they'd rather rave about talentless loonies like Madonna)..


So, in my humble opinion, there is NO way you can claim Disney's release schedule is entirely blame for a lack of interesting discussion. We just lack interesting(and Disney-loving sadly) members.

Now how do we get beyond this point? Well, we can't band these members as(aside from a couple of them) none of them have posted inappropriate and shameful posts that would go as far as to get them banned. So we need new members. Quite frankly, if making DVDizzy is the only way we can get interesting members who put thought into their posts, even if they're not the biggest Disney fans, to counter off people who discuss things like "Have you gotten little holes in your TLM slipcover yet?" then so be it.

I also love several of Escapay's ideas. Bringing back DIScussions would be awesome as they were an awesome concept that never caught on. If people don't abuse it somehow, it would be a terrific way to bring actual Disney fans to this forum to repectfully agree or disagree with them. It's a concept I hope Luke considers. And 2.0 of some reviews could be very cool(even if too much work would go into them then should).

Either way, if, when DVDizzy comes, if we remove all the non-Disney info from the UD main page and still keep it Disney, I don't see a problem with this. We'd still get that awesome main page, and we'd get a new one to discuss non-Disney movies as well.

I certainly applaud Luke's hard work on both main pages, and wish it turns out for the best for everyone.

I also applaud anyone who bothered to take the time to actually read this long(perhaps unnecessary) rant. :P
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From my own personal experience there's three things stopping me from posting. None of them are to do with non-Disney content or some of the new sign-ups.

The most important is work commitments have increased, and as a result I have little time. Little time for composing long and detailed posts, although sometimes I do just chip in with a sentence or two reply. You'll probably see my serious posting patterns seem to come in certain days these days.

Secondly, Being around the site for a few years, I've basically said all I want to say about Disney as such. And it is hard to get some enthusiasm for a Winnie the Pooh re-release or some Disney Channel movie I've never heard of. I don't know what it is with Disney, but they do seem to have given up recently.

It's a crime Disney aren't doing more with their TV on DVD collections, but in all honestly, its doubtful many of these would hold my interest either. And *HELLO* where's that Lilo and Stitch 2 Disc set for the North Americas? They missed a tie-in to L&S2 and Leroy and Stitch. What are they thinking?

Thirdly, and this goes on from the second point, but I've not had much enthusiasm for even Disney's top-tier releases over the past year. High School Musical is OK I guess - but only "Stick to the Status Quo" stands out as having any personality in what is ultimately a bland, inconcequential production. Cars...well, I've had the 2 disc Australian Cars on DVD since it was released and I can't even sum up the energy to watch it. There always seems to be something better to put on instead. And as many will know, I'm not that fond of the Pirates films (but I did buy them on Blu-Ray so more fool me).

Ratatouille does excite me more than any Pixar film for years, but its not coming out until October in the UK, and I'd wait for the DVD anyway. So that's that out of the picture too.

I mean, what exactly can I say anymore?
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Justin wrote:but I personally believe that the reason this forum is in such a mess is one simple reason not directly suggested yet: most of the current forum members here are complete idiots.

Now I'm certainly not referring to the excellent moderators here, nor am I referring to anyone who has contributed to this thread so far(everyone who has posted here so far has made genuine discussion in the past and truely love Disney enough to discuss and contribute to this forum and make it great). But there are a handful of morons(for the sake of this forum though, won't name names) who've ruined the nice litte community hear.
Ouch! But, sad to say, I partly agree with some of what you said (I just won't call them morons). There's a nice community here, but it's simply reached a point where fun and games and sideline chatter has taken precedence over in-depth Disney (and non-Disney) discussion. We can't exactly blame Disney's release schedule on this. If you think about it, the average forum member age has been dropping in the past year. When I first joined in 2004, the youngest member I knew of was probably Just Myself (then known as Secret Disney Man), and he was probably 14 or 15. Compared to now, I can easily recognize which members are in the 13/14 range, along with which members don't give a damn about their online grammar. It isn't particularly exciting to try and translate, and honestly, I can't take them seriously.

I mean, in 2004, I remember coming here and literally being educated on various things pertaining to Disney, DVD, and movies in general. I actually learned what a laserdisc was here! I learned all about the various censorships done to various Disney films, what OAR really was (and surprise surprise, it's not a wooden paddle used in aquatic transportation...), as well as the finer points of film restoration. We had fluffless topics devoted to various Disney movies, the endless speculations as to future Treasures and Platinums, and the ever-popular bitchings and moanings of why the Disney Gold Classic Collection just did not work.

Now, whenever I check the forums, it's become somewhat of a hassle. Sure, every week or so we'll get a nice juicy topic (the Lilo & Stitch deleted scene is my current favorite, though I haven't discussed in it yet), but more often than not, I find myself reading and re-reading endless discussions that frankly, I could care less about. Honestly, I'm probably anticipating reyquila's 500th Disney/Touchstone/Miramax/anything-from-BVHE DVD more than I anticipate reading the majority of GD and OT threads.
Justin wrote:For one, those "Little Mermaid humpers" as I refer to them, are probably what bug me the most. They not only have horrible taste in movies(I can think of at least 100 Disney movie that "blow this movie out of the water") but they don't even bother to discuss this divine film. Now in the past, I have obviously been a cruel critic of this movie, having put my 2 cents on it(a boring and terribly-developed plot, a main character you wouldn't mind frying with chips, a supporting cast you wouldn't mind to have as side-dishes, a bland human cast, an overrated history, unimpessive character animation... these are just the ones of the top of my head, there are enough for me to write severeal encyclopedias to explain why this movie's so flawed) but no one ever has had a "I respectfully disagree" arguement, they just say something like, "OMG!!KJ! Littl' Areil greatets 2D movie EVER!!?@@$# BETTER THAN lal 3D animation crap" or "have you not ever used a Little Mermaid slipcover yet?" And even today, the madness continues.
Now, now, Justin, we know you were a TLM humper once upon a time. :P Which oddly is something you've never explained despite evidence from past posts.

Still, it's just mindboggling just how much is said about TLM, but how little is really interesting to read. Anyone remember that five-billion-page press release for TLM? Nearly every other post was "X more days until it comes out! X more days!" Nothing really of substance. And that general tone has simply spilled over to the rest of the forums. I have to continually weed through topics that just by name alone now I know not to bother reading. Before I would read every topic, just as a courtesy to the creator and poster of said topic. But my patience for reading topics like "Wicked" (and this sudden online fandom for Broadway shows in general) or "The Little Mermaid" or "Hey, what food did you think about smelling an hour ago?" has seriously deteriorated, and I really only post in things I care about myself.
Justin wrote:Where are the Jungle Book's discussion. It has 17 pages so far. Now on this date The Little Mermaid had 30 threads with stupid posts like "Look, I made screencaps, I'm a huge fan" or "Look I can make a cover like Disney with a few adjustments" or "OMG!!!?!! Only three more months until going to bed will be so much more fun!!!:" We don't have hardly ANY discussion for The Jungle Book
I've never seen the entirety of TJB, which is why I've rarely participated in threads devoted to it. But even beyond Jungle Book, the amount of attention that TLM got on the forums has definitely been greater than any other Platinum title. It's an enigma to me too, I mean,
Justin wrote:Also, what about Pixar's Cars discussion.
I'd rather discuss Nemo than Cars! :P
Justin wrote:Not to mention stupid political threads starting since that stupid Rosie O'Donnell thread(the one where she "shocks the nation") there have been tons of those stupid threads, and I call them stupid because these liberal pieces scum who's heads are full of mush and never EVER even come close to the truth, think they know everything and post the most ignorant and flat out stupid posts as if they just removed their head from a microwave. And those are sadly popular too.
This is why I avoid politics in any online forum. I'm pretty much a member of the Somewhat-Liberal, Somewhat-Conservative, All-Apathetic Party, so I let those things go and destroy themselves without me having to casually walk in and get mud thrown in my face.
Justin wrote:Gone are the days where the off-topic was just a fun forum we discusses intelligent conversations that didn't involve Disney(sadly a lot of fools here hate Disney, they'd rather rave about talentless loonies like Madonna)..
Now, now, Justin, no need to bring Madonna into this, especially if she's the object of affection for a certain Man. One would say that borders on baiting. Plus, the ratio of Madonna discussion to "What Towel Did You Use To Dry Yourself In The Shower Last Week?"-type discussions is very small. Like 1 to 100.
Justin wrote:We just lack interesting(and Disney-loving sadly) members.
We're not lacking in them, we're just lacking in nice and juicy in-depth serious discussion from a majority of them.
Justin wrote:So we need new members. Quite frankly, if making DVDizzy is the only way we can get interesting members who put thought into their posts, even if they're not the biggest Disney fans, to counter off people who discuss things like "Have you gotten little holes in your TLM slipcover yet?" then so be it.
ITA.
Justin wrote:I also love several of Escapay's ideas.
I knew there was a reason I liked you! :P
2099net wrote:I mean, what exactly can I say anymore?
Indoctrinate more people into following The Doctor! :D

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My nickname should be Captain Obvious, since I often state the obvious. If you guys want more Disney discussions, or more discussions of substance, then why not start them yourself? I'm racking my brain trying to think of some...
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Escapay wrote:"What Towel Did You Use To Dry Yourself In The Shower Last Week?"
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blackcauldron85 wrote:My nickname should be Captain Obvious, since I often state the obvious. If you guys want more Disney discussions, or more discussions of substance, then why not start them yourself? I'm racking my brain trying to think of some...
Just starting the threads isn't good enough. There needs to be enough people to contribute intelligent content to the threads to keep them from disentigrating into dribble. People feel the need to chime in with off topic responses that are in no way helpful to the discussion at hand and soon enough a discussion on proper aspect ratios turns into "Widescreen sux!" "OMG No it doesn't!" "I like apples!" "OMG this thread should be closed it's not about apples!" etc.

There's a few members I notice who are repeat offenders in posting fluff or taking a topic off track but since apparantly there's some sort of free speach law or something we can't ban people simply for being annoying :P I used to love browsing these forums but now I find little that I want to read, and I've only been a member for a few months. Instead of being immersed in a Disney environment I feel like I'm in a highschool cafeteria...
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On the content of having non Buena Vista films covered on the front page, I am happy with it at the time being. I'm happy with the overall idea. I can understand at the time being that dizzydvd (or is dvddizzy) would not have enough views to keep it going for long. I'm fine with the idea that ultimatedisney.com will have all different types of reviews for the time being, until dizzydvd can become large enough to hold them itself. I however, like some others, get distracted by all the non Disney stuff on the front page, but I easily get over it.

On the idea of fluff posts, it seems to happen more frequently. Many topics that really should belong in the polls/games sections (such as What Dvd are you buying this week?). Another example of fluff posts is in The Ultimate Disney Awards, many posters posted the congragulate to winner of every single award. Many posts in that topic were irrelevent, were one liners, and didn't make any sense to me. That is just one topic of many that have the same problems. Posts like that have turned many long-time members away from the site, and keep many new members from becoming long time members.

I have rarely posted in the general Disney discussion in the last year or so. There is really nothing to post. I used to post very frequently in the main forum, but Disney's release schedule of films that are little or no-interest to me have kept me from asking questions or getting real excited. Disney's snubbage of the Ghibli films has also multiplied that. The general forum would gain more steam if Disney decided to release some larger films, maybe Hercules or Hunchback, but until then, the Platinum's and Pixar films will be the only ones keeping it alive.
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Escapay wrote: As far as I've seen, the expansion hasn't deterred the quality of reviews for Disney titles...
I hate to beat a possibly dead horse here, but I do think the expansion has hurt some of the Disney content. Not necessarily the reviews, but some of the other pages. The TV shows page is woefully outdated, and many of the other pages (direct to video, tv movies, etc) are falling behind too.

I'm with many of you in that I have very little interest in the latest 3 episode Disney Channel DVD, or the 47th repackaging of HSM. But the things that made me fall in love with this website (primarily the reference pages) are falling by the wayside.

I don't post on the forums regularily, since I'm just not that into discussion boards. But I used to reference all of the dvd listing pages on a regular basis, as I could trust them for the best info around. I can't go into any detail, but it was very very useful, and I miss having the Ultimate Site for Disney DVD information truely being the end-all for anything anyone could be looking for.

Now, theoretically, how does someone who may or may not need to make a recommendation of something in the future find a useful list of which Disney TV shows have been put out on DVD yet? Just theoretically.
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