Official 'Enchanted' Discussion Thread + Trailer !

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:) That was awesome! I had to watch it on YouTube, since Quicktime doesn't work for me. I was already excited, but now I am much more excited! :) :) :) It was funny when Patrick Dempsey's character told Giselle that she didn't have to sing right then. And the "magic mirror" part. The "Grumpy" part was funny, but it reminded me so much of "Elf".
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Post by Timon/Pumbaa fan »

Certainly I couldn't be the only one disappointed in the trailer?

The person who wrote the line "there's never been anything like Enchanted" hasn't seen Ella Enchanted, Fat Albert, The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle, A Cinderella Story, Shrek... I could really go on.

The hand-drawn animation really looked iffy. Just like people complain it's so obvious the animation in the DTVs is not as good as the WDFA projects, I felt the exact same thing here. In fact, I thought the bits of CGI in the film was more impressive than all the traditional animation shown.

And most of the "laughs" were very predictable and expected for the film. I'll give it a chance, but I'm not like the princess humpers who just "HAS TO SEE THIS FILM OMG TRADITIONAL ANIMATION IS BACK!?@!!"

But on a more positive note, I have to admit, the grumpy joke made me laugh out loud.
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Justin wrote:I'm not like the princess humpers
That could apply to the Shrill's prince, Cindy's prince, Phillip, Eric, Beast, Aladdin...

(yeah, bad joke...)

Anyway, I enjoyed the trailer for what it was, an ad to sell the movie to the audience. I liked the 2D animation, it serves its purpose of displaying a different world. It's not exactly breathtaking compared to what many Disney fans are used to seeing (well, IMO), reminded me a bit more of the mediocre Thumbelina rather than majestic Beauty and the Beast, even though the styles of both are somewhat similar.

Also, I didn't really like the clips used for James Marsden's prince. It makes him seem like too much of a fish-out-of-water goofball, which I'm sure he is (fish out of water, not goofball), but he comes off as downright annoying. And I'd rather not have James Marsden be downright annoying in this movie. He's already lost the girl in The Notebook and X3, and got stuck with Kate Bosworth in Superman Returns. Just once I'd like to see him get a girl worth keeping. :P

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Well, the trailer was alright but didn't really make me "ooh". Still, I'm sure it'll be an enjoyable movie, and it'll be interesting to see how certain things will work out. It certainly has potential, and I'm interested in seeing the animated scenes as well as the live-action bits.
rb_canadian181 wrote:I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get a sample of the music :cry: i wanna hear the new songs!
Yeah, that was unfortunate, but hopefully some later trailer will remedy that and actually give us a dose of Menken's music. I'm really looking forward to hearing the score and the songs, and I hope we won't just get comic songs but also some touching songs similar to Menken's past efforts. Time will tell, though. :)
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Thank You so much sotiris2006 for uploading the trailer to youtube. And thank you atlanticaunderthesea for pointing out the trailer in the first place.

I loved this trailer. Finally Disney is making fun of Disney. I loved the cleaning with the animals like Snow White does, and the grumpy refrence. This looks like a fantastic film. The animation is nice, not great, but hey, it's 2D. Giselle seems like she'd fit in perfectly with Disney's other royal girls. And Susan Sarandon WOW, I saw her for five seconds but she looks like an amazing villain, a cross between Grimhildie (Evil Queen), and Maleficent. I cannot wait for this film.
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Disney Villain wrote:Thank You so much sotiris2006 for uploading the trailer to youtube.

And Susan Sarandon WOW, I saw her for five seconds but she looks like an amazing villain, a cross between Grimhildie (Evil Queen), and Maleficent. I cannot wait for this film.
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those complaining about the animation....the animation is amazing!...it's the character design that's a bit off. design and animation aren't exactly the same thing
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I think that "Toy Story" was in the trailer because of who is in charge at WDFA now...John Lasseter. :roll:
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blackcauldron85 wrote:I think that "Toy Story" was in the trailer because of who is in charge at WDFA now...John Lasseter. :roll:
Ya but they could have shown a better Pixar movie. Anyway I'm really excited about the movie, not just because it's got 2D animation but the humor is really good. Shrek was mean spirited humor but here it's simply applying the fairy tale characters logic to a very cynical world. (I really like the fact that Giselle can't understand sarcasm).

Escapay, you said that the Prince is a goofball (Giselle is to in this movie a fish out of water goofball), but I like that (even though I have not seen any of those movies you mentioned). It shows that at least he has some kind of a personality, and flaws (unlike Prince Perfect from Snow White or Cinderella) and will be enjoyable to watch like the other characters.

My only hope is that the climax isn't over in 2 minutes, I want a nice long exciting, scary sequence where you really feel like the characters are in danger.
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I don't mink that it's making fun of Disney, but starting off with some of the best known and respected titles and saying that fact outright does kind of... rub the film's intention in your face. I don't think it's necessary. In fact, it feels like an unrealistic playing up of a movie similar to using phrases like "of all time."
(I almost didn't see Lilo and Stitch because of its ads. That would have been a mistake)

I'd like to see more of the animation, but... obviously it's a minor role, so it's kind of silly for this movie to be the "return to 2D." I guess it's kind of an "easing into 2D" for the studio to prepare for the real feature animation.'
As for the "never been..." This movie really feels like something from the 80s or early 90s. It's a vibe I picked up from the early pictures of the real life world. There's something of a nostalgia that this movie might subconsciously be working with, or am I the only person who feels that?

It's not going to be a hard choice between fantasy prince and real life dude; that guy is filthy rich! I mean, look at that apartment-and right on Central Park, too!
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The trailer caught my attention. Since everybody is pretty much buggin on the return of Traditional Animation for Disney, seems approiate to show CLASSIC clips from the past, I wish they would've gave the old clips alil more screen time. Loved the animation especialy the lead characters/villain, quiet reflecting on Snow White's crone. The Live Action was pretty funny especialy the Dragon, didn't quite understand why nobody from the Animation side couldn't sing but the jokes were still enjoyable, can't wait to see Enchanted, hopefully it'll live up to 90% of my expectations...Setting the stakes of Animation.

Now if only Disney will release a Trailer for The Princess And The Frog.
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It's not exactly breathtaking compared to what many Disney fans are used to seeing (well, IMO), reminded me a bit more of the mediocre Thumbelina rather than majestic Beauty and the Beast, even though the styles of both are somewhat similar
Maybe it's a personal thing, but I find Thumbelina to be far greater than Beauty and the Beast in the animation department. Sure, the character designs are worse, but at least the characters are on-model for nearly the entire movie. Beauty and the Beast, on the other hand, seems to be consistently off-model (mostly with Belle). In fact, it's probably my least favorite original (as in no sequels) Disney movie as far as animation is concerned.

As for the topic at hand, the Queen already looks awesome. I'm glad Sarandon has that part. And I have to admit that it'd be awesome to see something like Sleeping Beauty's climactic battle taking place in a city of skyscrapers.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:Beauty and the Beast, on the other hand, seems to be consistently off-model (mostly with Belle).
Just was I was going to say. Apart from the music, I'm not that fond of BatB. The animation is in places quite sloppy.

I don't really understand why everyone thinks it's so great that Disney is doing a parody of Disney (and at the same time praising or being concerned about how well this film will match the previous (90's) Disney animated features).
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Disney's Divinity wrote:Maybe it's a personal thing, but I find Thumbelina to be far greater than Beauty and the Beast in the animation department. Sure, the character designs are worse, but at least the characters are on-model for nearly the entire movie. Beauty and the Beast, on the other hand, seems to be consistently off-model (mostly with Belle). In fact, it's probably my least favorite original (as in no sequels) Disney movie as far as animation is concerned.
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XD!!! Do you have the one of him spitting? That one weirds me out every time!

Well, risking going on an unrelated tangent... I've always known that Beauty and the Beast was full of continuity errors and the like (but I get so caught up in the movie I don't care), but I'm curious about when the characters were off model. Could you give some examples? I love this sort of stuff.

But, you know, being on model isn't everything. In fact, it can be restricting. There are some animated movies in which the characters are rendered very well in every shot and angle, but... there's "something" that's off.


Aaaaanyway... aside from the "grumpy" thing, this fairy tale does seem a little... generic for Disney so far. I mean, how many of the Disney princesses are so uppity and how many princes are so... so... like that dude?

(And I haven't seen sleeves like that in Disney since The Little Mermaid)
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purin wrote:XD!!! Do you have the one of him spitting? That one weirds me out every time!


Aaaaanyway... aside from the "grumpy" thing, this fairy tale does seem a little... generic for Disney so far. I mean, how many of the Disney princesses are so uppity and how many princes are so... so... like that dude?

(And I haven't seen sleeves like that in Disney since The Little Mermaid)
For first question no, I don't. I got these off 4chan which does have a couple other funny photoshoped gaston pics.

for second comment, The Prince imo really stands out here unlike many disney princes


Snow White prince- just sings in the begining and kiss Snow White at the end.

Cinderella's prince- Not counting Cinderella 3's verison, this prince hardly had any redeeming personality or humor in him. Just typical standoff prince.

Sleeping Beauty Prince Philip- In the Begining had little light humor with Samson and his father(but still doesn't capture or grasp it fully), anyother time had no speaking lines or interesting reactions or expressions.

Little Mermaid Prince Eric- He start to grow development and character but still had the background feeling that doesn't stand him out well.

BatB- Beast/Adam- As a beast he had loads of persoanlity that rival that's of the one from 'Enchanted' except one thing, when you see him as beast, you don't think about much about him as a prince, so thta's thrown out of the window.

Aladdin-....Aladdin :lol: - wasn't really a prince until end(or Prince of theives) so most of his personality dwell from his street smart lifestyle. Still Aladdin IS closest that 'Enchanted' has.

Thing I'm saying is Enchanted 's Prince as an actual prince btu having such a rather funny and interesting development to his character make something new for people to experince
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Billy Moon wrote:I don't really understand why everyone thinks it's so great that Disney is doing a parody of Disney
That's just up to what people seem to enjoy I guess. It's not so much the fact that it's Disney doing a self-parody (for me anyway) and more a case of it seeming to be a classy one, something quite rare nowadays.
Billy Moon wrote:(and at the same time praising or being concerned about how well this film will match the previous (90's) Disney animated features).
I just took it as one of Disney's trademark advertising methods. We've seen this type of promotion previously many times before (Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Pocahontas, Lilo and Stitch). I really don't think it's a case of Disney hoping this will "match" the 90s films.
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Disney-Fan wrote:
Billy Moon wrote:(and at the same time praising or being concerned about how well this film will match the previous (90's) Disney animated features).
I just took it as one of Disney's trademark advertising methods.
Sorry, I meant the people here are praising and being concerned... not the trailer. :)
To me, the trailer itself is a parody of the '90s Disney trailers.
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purin wrote:I'm curious about when the characters were off model. Could you give some examples? I love this sort of stuff.
For one thing, Belle looks different in several parts of the film, ie. her face structure keeps changing due to having been animated by different people. The same goes for a few other characters in some degree.
purin wrote: Aaaaanyway... aside from the "grumpy" thing, this fairy tale does seem a little... generic for Disney so far. I mean, how many of the Disney princesses are so uppity and how many princes are so... so... like that dude?
Well, that's why I see it foremost as a parody... They're making fun of how the disney films are... just like that. And how annoyingly the characters suddenly burst into singing.
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The trailer looks good, but not great. I didn't realize it was supposed to be such a silly movie. I hope the actual movie is better than the trailer. Surely Susan Sarandon will be a great addition to the movie. The prince is annoying. I want to root against him...but maybe that's the point.

Anyway, thanks for the links!
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